Chris Webber on KHTK 1140

[Telemachus]

of course she is going to stand up for grant and herself. but by your reasoning if two people call someone a liar than its true? so if the reggie and cheryl miller called kj a liar, what does that mean? my main reasoning why i'm siding with cwebb is logic. if someone told you that i'm going to put u on the radio because u made a mistake on tv and i'm gonna have the host that you have a history with call you out on it. are u going to go on? what if she said hey some of the fans want to talk to you and show you some love because of last night? are you going to put matters aside with the host and go on to talk to the fans? if just doesn't make sense

I don't consider someone a liar just because 2 people said it. I look at their body of work. Jodi Bacon has been a well respected producer for KHTK, the Kings and I believe at least one bay area team for many years. You don't get to that position by lying to those you ask onto the shows you are promoting (it's a good way to lose your job and future guests). So I have no reason to believe that she is a liar (nor have ever heard her called such). As for Grant, he asked the question, but is NOT the one who set up the interview (that would be Bacon). And that brings us to CWebb. I loved Chris when he played for the Kings and am happy that he still represents the Kings in some ways on a national scale. However, he has a history of being very defensive with the media (not just Grant) when he is being asked questions he doesn't like. He has never liked admitting when he is wrong. He has also proven to be a liar in the past.

I also don't see what Grant and KHTK would gain from setting up Webber. Yeah, it would help the show ratings for a day or two, but that wouldn't be worth the cost. Webber is the only national TV that brings any attention to the Kings or Sacramento, so hurting his reputation and possibly making him not want to come on the radio again would be a BAD thing in the long run for the Kings & KHTK.

 

[steelevt]

I don't consider someone a liar just because 2 people said it. I look at their body of work. Jodi Bacon has been a well respected producer for KHTK, the Kings and I believe at least one bay area team for many years. You don't get to that position by lying to those you ask onto the shows you are promoting (it's a good way to lose your job and future guests). So I have no reason to believe that she is a liar (nor have ever heard her called such). As for Grant, he asked the question, but is NOT the one who set up the interview (that would be Bacon). And that brings us to CWebb. I loved Chris when he played for the Kings and am happy that he still represents the Kings in some ways on a national scale. However, he has a history of being very defensive with the media (not just Grant) when he is being asked questions he doesn't like. He has never liked admitting when he is wrong. He has also proven to be a liar in the past.

I also don't see what Grant and KHTK would gain from setting up Webber. Yeah, it would help the show ratings for a day or two, but that wouldn't be worth the cost. Webber is the only national TV that brings any attention to the Kings or Sacramento, so hurting his reputation and possibly making him not want to come on the radio again would be a BAD thing in the long run for the Kings & KHTK.

well you have your reasoning and i respect that. your point of view makes sense. jodi bacon could possibly lose her job or future guests by lying, but my point of view is from webber's side of why would he miss a flight and call in to have grant call him out on his mistakes. he would only call to talk to fans and talk about how great the game was the night before. either side doesnt make sense. so i guess we will have to agree to disagree.

in response to the bolded part. i believe whether they set him or not, they did hurt his reputation and made him not want to come on the radio again. they bad mouthed him and tnt before the interview, caught him off guard or "ambushed" as some would call it, then talked more crap about him afterwards. guess what today's rant was when i turned on the radio on the way home? yup the tnt broadcast, the following week, they are still talking about it. i would not be surprised if webber never went on grants show ever again. so actually grant and khtk got some ratings for a day or two, and probably lost out on getting webber on the radio which is a bad thing in the long run.

im not saying cwebb is not partially at fault. yes, he got the info wrong. yes he could have handled the interview better. but based on his past with grant, im sure he would have blown up sooner or later. but i think khtk handled it all wrong. instead of handling it behind closed doors and letting him know what the correct info was, they called him out live on the radio, talk about him after he hangs up, and are milking this for all its worth. instead of focusing on the positives of how great the game was, they concentrated on the negative, and while doing so, probably burned a bridge with cwebb.

 

[Tetsujin]

well you have your reasoning and i respect that. your point of view makes sense. jodi bacon could possibly lose her job or future guests by lying, but my point of view is from webber's side of why would he miss a flight and call in to have grant call him out on his mistakes. he would only call to talk to fans and talk about how great the game was the night before. either side doesnt make sense. so i guess we will have to agree to disagree.

in response to the bolded part. i believe whether they set him or not, they did hurt his reputation and made him not want to come on the radio again. they bad mouthed him and tnt before the interview, caught him off guard or "ambushed" as some would call it, then talked more crap about him afterwards. guess what today's rant was when i turned on the radio on the way home? yup the tnt broadcast, the following week, they are still talking about it. i would not be surprised if webber never went on grants show ever again. so actually grant and khtk got some ratings for a day or two, and probably lost out on getting webber on the radio which is a bad thing in the long run.

im not saying cwebb is not partially at fault. yes, he got the info wrong. yes he could have handled the interview better. but based on his past with grant, im sure he would have blown up sooner or later. but i think khtk handled it all wrong. instead of handling it behind closed doors and letting him know what the correct info was, they called him out live on the radio, talk about him after he hangs up, and are milking this for all its worth. instead of focusing on the positives of how great the game was, they concentrated on the negative, and while doing so, probably burned a bridge with cwebb.

You know, when it comes to the act of believing someone, I tend not to trust the guy who's been indicted for lying to a grand jury as opposed to the radio show producer lady who by all accounts is one of the best at what she does.

 

[steelevt]

You know, when it comes to the act of believing someone, I tend not to trust the guy who's been indicted for lying to a grand jury as opposed to the radio show producer lady who by all accounts is one of the best at what she does.

that's fine you dont have to believe him. believe the producer that is trying to get cwebb on the show while grant is crapping all over him behind his back. i dont know either of them personally. im sure jodi bacon would never lie to cwebb like you are implying. im just wondering if im a producer how am i supposed to get someone on the show after he messed up the night before. tell him we're gonna have grant who he doesnt care for call him out on it, or tell him his fans love him and want to show him love. hmmm. im sure i'd jump at the chance to have someone call me out on past mistakes on the radio, especially if that mistake was made in front of millions

 

[rainmaker]

im not saying cwebb is not partially at fault. yes, he got the info wrong. yes he could have handled the interview better. but based on his past with grant, im sure he would have blown up sooner or later. but i think khtk handled it all wrong. instead of handling it behind closed doors and letting him know what the correct info was, they called him out live on the radio, talk about him after he hangs up, and are milking this for all its worth. instead of focusing on the positives of how great the game was, they concentrated on the negative, and while doing so, probably burned a bridge with cwebb.

I agree with this. I do think Webb handled the interview poorly, but also believe KHTK has been just as bad in not worse.

Before the interview, Grant was slamming Webb and TNT. His 5pm rant right before the interview blasted TNT and Webb. After the interview, Grant and callers ripped Webb the rest of the show.

Later that evening, Grant took to twitter and started re-tweeting tweets blasting Webb. And none of this was really about the interview, but more about character. Grant was making it very personal, well above and beyond TNT screwing up the facts.

Then, when in the car this morning(get KHTK in the Bay) I hear Don and Carmichael Dave absolutely ripping into Webb. Full on character assassination. They replayed the interview multiple times, while Don was calling Webb one name after another.

KHTK has made one poor decision after another, and here was yet another. They just haven't stopped talking about it. The Grant continued on his show today. I'm sorry KHTK, but TNT's screw up and Webbs interview doesn't undo everything else Webb has done for this city. You don't have to rip everything Webb has done, and his character along with it.

 

[Bricklayer]

I agree with this. I do think Webb handled the interview poorly, but also believe KHTK has been just as bad in not worse.

Before the interview, Grant was slamming Webb and TNT. His 5pm rant right before the interview blasted TNT and Webb. After the interview, Grant and callers ripped Webb the rest of the show.

Later that evening, Grant took to twitter and started re-tweeting tweets blasting Webb. And none of this was really about the interview, but more about character. Grant was making it very personal, well above and beyond TNT screwing up the facts.

Then, when in the car this morning(get KHTK in the Bay) I hear Don and Carmichael Dave absolutely ripping into Webb. Full on character assassination. They replayed the interview multiple times, while Don was calling Webb one name after another.

KHTK has made one poor decision after another, and here was yet another. They just haven't stopped talking about it. The Grant continued on his show today. I'm sorry KHTK, but TNT's screw up and Webbs interview doesn't undo everything else Webb has done for this city. You don't have to rip everything Webb has done, and his character along with it.

Again I should note I am glad I am not local. There is a forest out there beyond the trees and all this faux outrage and trying to tear down maybe the single best friend Sacramento has in the national NBA media is just insanity.

 

[steelevt]

what it really comes down to is this. i know cwebb messed up, but spending the whole day crapping on him is just stupid on khtk's part. he is one of the very few allies the kings have in national tv. i keep posting about the better way of correcting it instead of putting cwebb on blast or character assassination. so tnt and cwebb messed up. how about instead of spending the whole day as well as the next few days telling sacramento how much of a screw up cwebb is, why dont you do something positive. tell sacramento how great the game was and how the kings were able to beat the team with the best record. hey grant, instead of telling people to go on twitter and bash cwebb, why not tell them to email the council members about how they should vote for the arena because the war is far from over. how about giving all your followers on twitter the emails of each and every council member and telling them instead of saying something bad about cwebb on my twitter, say something positive about the kings to the council members. how about linking them to this email template i found on STR

Dear Councilmember,

I am writing to urge you to support the city staff's recommendation on the proposal to lease parking facilities in order to generate capital needed to construct a new entertainment and sports complex in downtown Sacramento.

Boosting the Sacramento economy should be our No. 1 priority right now. A new entertainment complex at the Railyards would generate an estimate $157 million in regional revenue annually, $100 million of that just in downtown. The local tax base will be increased by an estimated $6.7 million per year. That's money that can help pay the police officers and firefighters our community needs long-term.

We'll begin seeing those returns immediately, as the development of the project could create up to 4,000 sorely needed construction jobs downtown, and development of additional area parcels currently sitting idle could add thousands more to that tally. Building a new entertainment complex also keeps the thousands of jobs tied to arena operation in Sacramento. We can't afford to lose those jobs. The proposed developers of the project have entered an agreement with regional labor groups to keep those jobs local.

This proposal has unprecedented support from labor, from business and from the hundreds of thousands of residents who enjoy first-class entertainment options like NBA basketball, the music industry's top acts and so much more. This is a historic opportunity to help secure Sacramento's economic future, and it's one we can't afford to pass up.

Please join me in supporting the staff proposal on funding a new downtown entertainment and sports complex.

Sincerely,

[YOUR NAME]



Here are the email addresses to use.

aashby@cityofsacramento.org
jschenirer@cityofsacramento.org
ssheedy@cityofsacramento.org
scohn@cityofsacramento.org
rkfong@cityofsacramento.org
kmccarty@cityofsacramento.org
bpannell@cityofsacramento.org
dfong@cityofsacramento.org

(ps i wasnt sure about being able to link to other forums. i believe i read that it was against the rules so i just put the template which the OP (tom ziller) allows us to use feeling free to personalize)

you could have worked with cwebb respectfully and turn this negative into a positive. instead khtk spends all day being negative and letting all these kings fans that were probably at cwebbs jersey retirement now pee all over him on air. way to go

 

[BMiller52]

what it really comes down to is this. i know cwebb messed up, but spending the whole day crapping on him is just stupid on khtk's part. he is one of the very few allies the kings have in national tv. i keep posting about the better way of correcting it instead of putting cwebb on blast or character assassination. so tnt and cwebb messed up. how about instead of spending the whole day as well as the next few days telling sacramento how much of a screw up cwebb is, why dont you do something positive. tell sacramento how great the game was and how the kings were able to beat the team with the best record. hey grant, instead of telling people to go on twitter and bash cwebb, why not tell them to email the council members about how they should vote for the arena because the war is far from over. how about giving all your followers on twitter the emails of each and every council member and telling them instead of saying something bad about cwebb on my twitter, say something positive about the kings to the council members. how about linking them to this email template i found on STR

Dear Councilmember,

I am writing to urge you to support the city staff's recommendation on the proposal to lease parking facilities in order to generate capital needed to construct a new entertainment and sports complex in downtown Sacramento.

Boosting the Sacramento economy should be our No. 1 priority right now. A new entertainment complex at the Railyards would generate an estimate $157 million in regional revenue annually, $100 million of that just in downtown. The local tax base will be increased by an estimated $6.7 million per year. That's money that can help pay the police officers and firefighters our community needs long-term.

We'll begin seeing those returns immediately, as the development of the project could create up to 4,000 sorely needed construction jobs downtown, and development of additional area parcels currently sitting idle could add thousands more to that tally. Building a new entertainment complex also keeps the thousands of jobs tied to arena operation in Sacramento. We can't afford to lose those jobs. The proposed developers of the project have entered an agreement with regional labor groups to keep those jobs local.

This proposal has unprecedented support from labor, from business and from the hundreds of thousands of residents who enjoy first-class entertainment options like NBA basketball, the music industry's top acts and so much more. This is a historic opportunity to help secure Sacramento's economic future, and it's one we can't afford to pass up.

Please join me in supporting the staff proposal on funding a new downtown entertainment and sports complex.

Sincerely,

[YOUR NAME]



Here are the email addresses to use.

aashby@cityofsacramento.org
jschenirer@cityofsacramento.org
ssheedy@cityofsacramento.org
scohn@cityofsacramento.org
rkfong@cityofsacramento.org
kmccarty@cityofsacramento.org
bpannell@cityofsacramento.org
dfong@cityofsacramento.org

(ps i wasnt sure about being able to link to other forums. i believe i read that it was against the rules so i just put the template which the OP (tom ziller) allows us to use feeling free to personalize)

you could have worked with cwebb respectfully and turn this negative into a positive. instead khtk spends all day being negative and letting all these kings fans that were probably at cwebbs jersey retirement now pee all over him on air. way to go

I wish Grant and the fools at KHTK could actually see this.

 

[swisshh]

I remember when I was hearing it live I thought it really seemed like Chris was, as usual, wearing his heart on his sleeve that's all. A guy on another message board said it best I think and I'm paraphrasing: This was Webber's pent up reaction to many years of Grant's general douchey-ness. I think that is pretty much what it was.

Disclosure: I love CWebb and hate Grant

Yeah, that's close to my read as well. I think his anger had little to do with getting the wrong info and more to do with Grant's history and Grant using the snafu for his own gain.

 

[Kingsguy881]

Yeah, that's close to my read as well. I think his anger had little to do with getting the wrong info and more to do with Grant's history and Grant using the snafu for his own gain.

We agree on something finally!

 

[swisshh]

eh there is also the element of forced drama here

It feels a bit setup to create audience attention. Grant is milking it because the Kings are bad and his show has no quality beyond being the prime spot for kings talk on the radio. Don Geronimo is having fun with it because that's what he does. It probably makes for good comedy material. If he could rip Grant with the stuff he would, but probably less likely due to working situation.

Of curse that would meant Webber is in on some forced drama, so It's really not likely. My only point is that the follow-up is all radio theatre.

 

[Section 101]

eh there is also the element of forced drama here

It feels a bit setup to create audience attention. Grant is milking it because the Kings are bad and his show has no quality beyond being the prime spot for kings talk on the radio. Don Geronimo is having fun with it because that's what he does. It probably makes for good comedy material. If he could rip Grant with the stuff he would, but probably less likely due to working situation.

Of curse that would meant Webber is in on some forced drama, so It's really not likely. My only point is that the follow-up is all radio theatre.

Grant's never had a problem with ratings. So your theory is invalid from the start.

 

[The Hammer]

Grant's never had a problem with ratings. So your theory is invalid from the start.

Are you really that naive?

That's the business he's in. Ratings = revenue. Direct correlation. Revenue = his income. All radio people are basically salesmen selling the products in the ads. More ratings = ads cost more = the station makes more money. Just because he's never had dangerously low ratings in no way means that he's not motivated to get ever higher ratings. I mean really? What is happening to our education system?!?

 

[Section 101]

Are you really that naive?

That's the business he's in. Ratings = revenue. Direct correlation. Revenue = his income. All radio people are basically salesmen selling the products in the ads. More ratings = ads cost more = the station makes more money. Just because he's never had dangerously low ratings in no way means that he's not motivated to get ever higher ratings. I mean really? What is happening to our education system?!?

And a 1 day jump means little in the big picture. He's the top spot for his time slot already. If you read the person I was quoting he is doesn't need to milk anything for ratings. His show is number one in the summer too when there is no NBA so it has nothing to do with the Kings being bad. As for the quality, I think they get some pretty good people on the show.

So yes, I stand by my statement that Swisshh's statement is invalid on it's face. Sure Grant would like higher ratings, but a one time stunt does nothing for long term ratings.

Nice try on the personal attack.

 

[VF21]

Really? I mean REALLY?????

This is now officially older-than-dirt news. Anyone whose panties are still in a bunch over this molehill - and that includes CWebber, Howdy Doody AND anyone else involved - needs to get a grip and move on.

As far as the personal insults and attacks go, it's truly a shame that people feel they have to add insults to their argument to try and bolster their position. News flash: It's over and done. I'm officially announcing that the horse is not only dead, the carcass has been consumed by various scavengers, leaving only the drying bones to bleach in the sun.

If our local media talking heads have to continue to try and find meat on the bones, I'll just figure they're really desperate for fodder and leave it at that.

 

[Rookie]

If our local media talking heads have to continue to try and find meat on the bones, I'll just figure they're really desperate for fodder and leave it at that.

Aren't they suppose to continue to talk on whatever topic that the listeners want to listen? I can only assume after CWebb rant that there would be ton of listeners wanting to voice their opinion. And as a host, I wouldn't blame Grant for continuing his rant as long as people continue to push it as the topic...this thread is a prime example why Grant continue on the CWebb topic.

 

[Bricklayer]

Aren't they suppose to continue to talk on whatever topic that the listeners want to listen? I can only assume after CWebb rant that there would be ton of listeners wanting to voice their opinion. And as a host, I wouldn't blame Grant for continuing his rant as long as people continue to push it as the topic...this thread is a prime example why Grant continue on the CWebb topic.

Chicken and egg. Radio talking heads seek to inflame, then the inflamation justifies their continuing.

But if you'd rather, we could say Sacramento area fans are the idiots, while Grant is just going with the flow. But SOMEBODY is being an idiot/shortsighted.

 

[swisshh]

section 101: It's not invalid on its face. I assume from what you say you understand radio and media a bit and that ratings are always important. I assume you understand the limits and boundaries of Grant Napear as a show runner. My observation falls within both the boundaries of a media outlet's interests and Napear's repertoire as a host. When the Kings are bad and NFL is over and there's no MLB, this sort of thing is just what a sports media outlet is looking for.

 

[KingsFanatic]

Although I cant stand Grant's show that much, he's still one of the best announcers in basketball, and I'd hate it if he quit doing kings games..........Very few announcers show the type of passion Grant shows during the game and it shows.....but that's another story...

 

[Section 101]

section 101: It's not invalid on its face. I assume from what you say you understand radio and media a bit and that ratings are always important. I assume you understand the limits and boundaries of Grant Napear as a show runner. My observation falls within both the boundaries of a media outlet's interests and Napear's repertoire as a host. When the Kings are bad and NFL is over and there's no MLB, this sort of thing is just what a sports media outlet is looking for.

Yes and it was a one day thing last friday. Grant wasn't even on yesterday due to travel and today and tomorrow are 1.5 hour shows due to Kings games. So unless you heard about it right after it happened last friday and tuned in his ratings didn't change much. As far as the limits and boundries I think you way underestimate how popular his show is. He has been on the air for a long time and has alot of connections in the business. Whether you like him or not you should respect what he has accomplished.

 

[The Hammer]

Nice try on the personal attack.

Quit whining and lighten up.

 

[swisshh]

Yes and it was a one day thing last friday. Grant wasn't even on yesterday due to travel and today and tomorrow are 1.5 hour shows due to Kings games. So unless you heard about it right after it happened last friday and tuned in his ratings didn't change much. As far as the limits and boundries I think you way underestimate how popular his show is. He has been on the air for a long time and has alot of connections in the business. Whether you like him or not you should respect what he has accomplished.

Sorry, no. I've been listening to local sports radio longer than any sane person should. =/ But I know that if you talk Kings in Sacramento then you get ratings. It was true of 1530 when they had the Kings and true of 1140. There's not really any local competition in sports talk. Even if there was, it would be hard to compete considering how much power holding the Kings games has. I know 1240 was a sports station a long time ago, a tin shack of a radio beacon, but it couldn't win out without the Kings.

Now that I live in the bay area, I no longer listen to Grant much, even though I still can get 1140's signal. Even though there isn't any Kings talk, I'd rather listen to somebody else.

 

[Rookie]

Chicken and egg. Radio talking heads seek to inflame, then the inflamation justifies their continuing.

Have to disagree that fans are idiots if they listen to this nonsense. Some have different view of Cwebb as well as how they watch the Kings. We picked side and we defend base on our reasoning. I'm with the people that point at CWebb being overly sensitive and can't handle being wrong. I also think that it is possible that Grant could of set this up and got the ball rolling. But of the two I really could care less about Grant setting things up because they wouldn't be able to do that to anyone who have no problem owning up when they're wrong. Example: Bobby Jackson (flaky memory but I remember Bobby faced up to him and end it quickly about him not having heart.)

How one listen to radio is up to the individual, there are no idiots IMO.

 

[Bricklayer]

How one listen to radio is up to the individual, there are no idiots IMO.

How one treats one's friends/allies is absolutely a great place to find idiots. And there are many of them.

 

[Rookie]

How one treats one's friends/allies is absolutely a great place to find idiots. And there are many of them.

If my friends/allies are wrong and telling them they're wrong make me an idiot then so be it. And no I don't think listening to radio has anythiing to do with one treating friends/allies.

edit:
I think you're right regarding allies because it is beneficial to remain on good term even if you happen to disagree.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Just listened to it. Chris overreacted, and you'd probably like for him to be more concerned about what kind of mistake he made, but I don't think any of that matters when you can tell he was invited on the show under false pretenses, and that's what mattered to him most at the time, understandably. Chris and TNT screwed up, but deception (at least that's how it seems to me) trumps an honest mistake.