Change of Power?

KiNgMyC

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Over the past few years, the West has obviously dominated the league. It was not so long ago where ALL the contenders came from the Cali and Texas. Now there are some big names in the East (Pistons/Pacers/Heat) now, do you guys think they became the powerhouse?. I believe(hope) next season will be the most evenly match in years, thus better games. Any thoughts?
 
i prefer close games. unless it's the kings; then i would prefer a blowout win. the east hasn't been the same since jordan left; the east is boring. i guess it comes down to how may favorite players you have in each conference.
 
East has the big three, and then some scrappers/good teams; Boston/Philly/Cleveland/Nets/Bulls/Wizards. Maybe the Bucks too. As of right now/last season anyways for them anyways. ;)

West, aside from the Spurs, is loaded; Kings/Nuggets/Suns/Rockets/Mavericks/Sonics/T'Wolves/Grizzlies

I'd put the Jazz there, but it's kinda hard to say.

Seattle, Ray/Rashard/Ridnour gets them on there still, especially if they keep Radmanovic and Reggie Evans. Though I don't see Evans with them next season.
 
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Sallery caps, luxury tax and max contracts along with expansion teams have changed the nature of the NBA. Powerhouse teams with perenial top squads like the old Celts or old school Lakers, Philly, are just almost impossible anymore, by the time established stars start to deteroriate their top heavy contracts and the financial mechanisims mke it incresingly difficult to bring in new stars so teams now have to be "blown up" in order to be rebuilt (New era Lakers) The breif advantage the West had/has was destined to end as the new tallent and cap space open up exactly in those teams that are NOT successfull. The amazing thing is how bone head GM's can AVOID even accidently cobbeling togheter a decent squad with top draft pics and available cap space. Billy Knight and Steve Dalin have to work real ahrd to deal out tallent faster that their perinal first round picks can develop!
 
The top of the east is very good in Indy/Miami/Detroit/Cleveland, but let's face it. Everyone else sucks. New Jersey and Philly SHOULD be good, but they can't seem to play together AT ALL. And NJ butchered its chances by not taking SAR. The Bulls are still a few years away from being a serious contender (think 99 Kings- we didn't truly contend for another 3 years and after a few facelifts). The Wiz lost Hughes, and they weren't that good to begin with. And Boston I am convinced will not win anything or pose a threat to anyone until they purge their entire roster and just start over.

The West has really 1 true contender in SA, but Houston, Dallas, Pheonix, and Sac are right there, close to knocking on the door. The Nuggets, Sonics and TWolves could all beat down anyone in the 4-8 seeds in the East. So power has become somewhat equal in that the FINALS will be competitive, but on a head-to-head basis of each team in the west vs each team in the east, the west will still dominate. So 3 or 4 teams have risen to the top in the east, but the rest of the pack is still trying to figure out how to dribble.
 
Oh man, the east has officially taken OVER.... All I see in the west now is the spurs and a bunch of solid teams.... The east? Wow! U got the pistons, the heat, and the team I thought was the best in the league last year had it not been for the brawl, the pacers.... When the kings were at their peak, the west was vastly stronger, but it still was really only the lakers and kings that I tought were the best(especially '02)... Now the nba is pretty evenly matched, but I would definately say that the powere has shifted to the east.... And boy was that fast.
 
The Easts top teams have gotten better thats true but the rest of the conference just doesn't match up. The winning percentage between East and West will be dominated by the West again this year, just like last year, the year before that, etc. Team for team the west is just more talented.
 
I think the West will still win more head to head games because the depth of talented teams is better. But for the first time in forever, the East may now have more truly top end elite teams -- just that there is still a big falloff to the next grouping.
 
Here's an article from ESPN about this topic...

The Eastern Conference had been down for so long, there were times it was hard to believe the NBA's balance of power would ever equalize again.



All the talent and all the size kept going West. Shaquille O'Neal and Tim Duncan kept going to the NBA Finals and doing chin-ups on championship series rims. Resistance was futile for the East.

Slowly, this has been changing, a fluid redistribution of talent and possibilities working its way back East. Once Shaq was traded to the Miami Heat a year ago, everything tilted a little more. For the first time since the Michael Jordan Bulls, there's perhaps a genuine expectation that the champion will come out of the East.



As the amnesty cuts play out, and as free agents linger unsigned, here are 10 reasons the Eastern Conference has found its way back to NBA relevance. Shaq's Selflessness: Well, yes, Shaq's giving back $10 million for next season to sign a five-year, $100 million extension doesn't make him an international aid worker, but it did spare the Heat cap space for Antoine Walker and Jason Williams. Together, they make the Heat the favorite to reach the NBA Finals and perhaps give Miami president Pat Riley that long-promised parade on Biscayne Bay.

More than ever, Shaq needs the help. The days of his most destructive dominance are done, yet he's still a largely unmatchable force. If Stan Van Gundy has, say, 10 minutes of trouble getting the self-absorbed Walker and Williams to play well with others, the ever-looming shadow of Riley's taking back his old job back will continue to undermine Van Gundy's coaching authority.

The Mirror Programs in Detroit and Indiana: For the first time in years, there are three legitimate championship contenders in the Eastern Conference. Make no mistake: The Pistons and Pacers are too tough and too resilient to fade far behind the Heat.

The Pistons' core is young enough, talented and committed to Detroit general manager Joe Dumars' old-school belief in team play -- never mind the "Do As I Say, Not As I Do" regime of the deposed Larry Brown.

And the best move the Pacers made toward a championship drive was no move at all: They kept Ron Artest.

Grant Hill's Ankle: The Magic are the East's wild card, because if Grant Hill's ankle can make it through another full season (remember, it was his shin that cost him the final weeks of the regular season), they'll be a playoff force again. Dwight Howard has the makings of a 20-10 star, and Steve Francis allows Hill to be the best third option this side of Richard Jefferson in the conference.

Two of the underrated moves of the offseason have been Orlando's bringing back Brian Hill to coach and the signing of Miami guard Keyon Dooling. Coach-killing Penny Hardaway is long gone from Hill's first Magic incarnation, leaving him most grateful for a chance to return to the job that he never wanted to leave, to the city that he had still called home. Dooling gives Francis a chance to play away from the ball, which is where he belongs anyway.

The rest is in the link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=wojnarowski_adrian&id=2136820
 
If I have to read any more about Shaq's selfless generosity in giving back $10 million for next year, I'm going to hack up my spleen through my nostrils...

Yeah, he turned down one more year and ended up getting 5-years AND $100 million. And who knows if the lard-butt will even be able to get off his duff in 4 years?

Blech!!!

And, as a side note, his neighbors in Biscayne Bay are not happy with him. He has HUGE spotlights around his house and they are so bright at night that his neighbors are virtually unable to see anything. When asked to turn them down or off, he made the comment that if his neighbors were that unhappy, they could just close their blinds.

What a guy...
 
KiNgMyC said:
Here's an article from ESPN about this topic...

The Eastern Conference had been down for so long, there were times it was hard to believe the NBA's balance of power would ever equalize again.



All the talent and all the size kept going West. Shaquille O'Neal and Tim Duncan kept going to the NBA Finals and doing chin-ups on championship series rims. Resistance was futile for the East.

Slowly, this has been changing, a fluid redistribution of talent and possibilities working its way back East. Once Shaq was traded to the Miami Heat a year ago, everything tilted a little more. For the first time since the Michael Jordan Bulls, there's perhaps a genuine expectation that the champion will come out of the East.



As the amnesty cuts play out, and as free agents linger unsigned, here are 10 reasons the Eastern Conference has found its way back to NBA relevance. Shaq's Selflessness: Well, yes, Shaq's giving back $10 million for next season to sign a five-year, $100 million extension doesn't make him an international aid worker, but it did spare the Heat cap space for Antoine Walker and Jason Williams. Together, they make the Heat the favorite to reach the NBA Finals and perhaps give Miami president Pat Riley that long-promised parade on Biscayne Bay.

More than ever, Shaq needs the help. The days of his most destructive dominance are done, yet he's still a largely unmatchable force. If Stan Van Gundy has, say, 10 minutes of trouble getting the self-absorbed Walker and Williams to play well with others, the ever-looming shadow of Riley's taking back his old job back will continue to undermine Van Gundy's coaching authority.

The Mirror Programs in Detroit and Indiana: For the first time in years, there are three legitimate championship contenders in the Eastern Conference. Make no mistake: The Pistons and Pacers are too tough and too resilient to fade far behind the Heat.

The Pistons' core is young enough, talented and committed to Detroit general manager Joe Dumars' old-school belief in team play -- never mind the "Do As I Say, Not As I Do" regime of the deposed Larry Brown.

And the best move the Pacers made toward a championship drive was no move at all: They kept Ron Artest.

Grant Hill's Ankle: The Magic are the East's wild card, because if Grant Hill's ankle can make it through another full season (remember, it was his shin that cost him the final weeks of the regular season), they'll be a playoff force again. Dwight Howard has the makings of a 20-10 star, and Steve Francis allows Hill to be the best third option this side of Richard Jefferson in the conference.

Two of the underrated moves of the offseason have been Orlando's bringing back Brian Hill to coach and the signing of Miami guard Keyon Dooling. Coach-killing Penny Hardaway is long gone from Hill's first Magic incarnation, leaving him most grateful for a chance to return to the job that he never wanted to leave, to the city that he had still called home. Dooling gives Francis a chance to play away from the ball, which is where he belongs anyway.

The rest is in the link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=wojnarowski_adrian&id=2136820

The Magic aren't going anywhere. Hill is a nice story, but not enough to make Orlando any sort of threat. Can't dream of anything higher than a 7 or 8 seed out west...but east, espn writers sing their praises.

Bulls/Wizards: The Bulls are still 2 or 3 years off. Can't hold a candle to the pack in the west, not yet. The Wizards were also a nice story, but have only moved backwards this offseason. Maybe make the playoffs again in the east, but again, not a chance in hell of making it out west.

Nets: Yeah, a dysfunctional team that can't play despite itself. I'll believe it when I see it. This guy says they are still having a good offseason despite screwing up the SAR deal because they have 2 no 1s in 06. Let's talk in 06. People keep saying NJ can play and will do well. I'll believe it when I see it.

Larry Brown: Isaih already brought lots of overhyped overpaid big names and threw them in a giant melting pot of miserable failure. One more and now they can be good? Not to disrespect LB, but he doesn't have the time or patience, especially with the miserable crew he gets in NY. At best, in 2 or 3 years, if LB stays, they may be a contender. Today, no way.

Celtics/Charlotte/Atlanta: Ha. Even if every word this guy writes is true, they are still years off. So the east may be the true power in a few years (if Chicago, NY, NJ and Cleveland all truly come along) but anything a few years away in sports is completely uncertain. Today, the east has a better chance than ever before of winning the finals, yes. (in recent history, more like) But the true power of the NBA still resides in the West. Top 4 vs top 4, east may have advantage. But team for team, all 16 of them vs 16, the east doesn't hold a candle to the west.
 
what change of power? the pistons beat a injured, dysfunctional family laker squad that was lucky to even make it to the finals..... and shaq's team loses in the conf finals to a team that lost in the finals.... to a western team that took 6 games to beat a nets team that got swept by the lakers the year before.....

what has indy or cleaveland done that makes them so great? 1 team from each conference has to go to the finals.... whatever team comes out of the east will lose to the spurs.... thats not even in question.....

so where is the change? the spurs arent as unstoppable as the lakers were in their 3peat... so what? i really doubt that the pistons would have won if they had gone up against a healthy laker squad or even a healthy twolves or spurs squad.... maybe they would have beaten the kings, i dont know.... but they got lucky drawing the lakers.... if they had lost would there be talk of any power shift......
 
The East had two of the top three teams last season. They're getting stronger at the top and it's only a matter of time before their middle of the pack teams get better. We'll see some of that this season. Western Conference teams that have been used to going on a roadtrip to the East and fattening up a little bit by knocking off the weaklings will find it a little tougher this year.
 
VF21 said:
If I have to read any more about Shaq's selfless generosity in giving back $10 million for next year, I'm going to hack up my spleen through my nostrils...

Yeah, he turned down one more year and ended up getting 5-years AND $100 million. And who knows if the lard-butt will even be able to get off his duff in 4 years?

Blech!!!

And, as a side note, his neighbors in Biscayne Bay are not happy with him. He has HUGE spotlights around his house and they are so bright at night that his neighbors are virtually unable to see anything. When asked to turn them down or off, he made the comment that if his neighbors were that unhappy, they could just close their blinds.

What a guy...


Many on LG easily predicted that Shaq would "take a paycut for the good of the team" after his deficiencies were shown this past season...and that the media would run with it... and true to form, that's exactly what happened.

Re: Shaq's spotlights...one of his neighbors tried to fight fire with fire and shine some spotlights right back at him....the cops were at his door in a heartbeat, of course. :rolleyes:
 
If that was anyone else they'd be fined, made to take them down but not a celebrity. Must be nice to not have to obey the laws. If the spotlights are that bright, blinds won't help. Have some consideration for your neighbors, man. They didn't ask for you to live there.
 
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