CaminoChaos
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Carlisle Fired!
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LPKingsFan
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Sign me up. But that means Ron would have to be shipped out, for better or for worse.
nbrans
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Whether or not Ron liked Carlisle he definitely respected him, and Carlisle coached the only team that Ron Artest has been on that was a no-doubt-about-it winner -- 61 games.
I'd say he has to be on the list. This is such a similar situation to Adelman in Portland -- unfairly maligned for a decline but still a really excellent coach.
I'd say he has to be on the list. This is such a similar situation to Adelman in Portland -- unfairly maligned for a decline but still a really excellent coach.
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caliking23
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This guy carlisle just can't catch a break. First detroit fires him, now Indy.
I'm fine with Carlisle....I'm not too concerned about him and ron, but there is enough for me to raise my eyebrow over the signing. It'll be interesting to see what Petrie does. I wish I could fastforward to October to see what are team is like. There are so many different directions we can go...
nbrans
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Actually, I've already had second thoughts -- if Kevin Martin is the centerpiece and you want to play to the young guys' strengths, this should be a running team -- and that's not Carlisle's style. Carlisle is such a half-court coach. I don't know. Maybe he's not a great fit for the future direction.
CaminoChaos
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Come back Petrie! Hurry, Hurry, Hurry.
CaminoChaos
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Yeah, but he is the best coach available and he is a great coach. He would find a way to make it work.
LPKingsFan
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How did Reggie Miller do under Carlisle?
I know, I know. I'm too stuck on the Kevin Martin/Reggie Miller and Roy Hibbert/Rik Smits thing. But still, interesting to think about.
Topic is Carlisle being the next head coach of the Kings......OK GO!!!!!
Reminds me of the Saturday Night Live flick with Mike Meyers as the old lady therapist setting up the topics and then asking for them to be discussed while she collected herself!!!!
I don't know about Carlisle much, but we really need to give a lot of thought to who is taking over here so we don't repeat this 1 year head coaching gig. That $7M 3 year deal is going to sting a little. Muss does get that $ right? He didn't exactly earn it, but in the NBA theme of paying someone's $ ahead of time not based on the player's future performance is regrettable fiasco many times!
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I agree and I don't want Carlisle. He's also a micro manager and that doesn't seem to work.
JUST SAY NO TO RICKY C
CaminoChaos
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It seemed to work with Detroit and Indiana. .750 winning percentage is pretty good.
Yeah and all the players ended up hating him. Stephen Jackson hated him and is now flourishing in GS under Nellie. He got fired in Detroit even though he wasn't losing, so it kind of makes you wonder why he got fired there. Artest hated him. JO had problems with him and his role in the "offense". Al Harrington had problems with Rick Carlisle's offense. He can't coach offense. He micro manages too much.
I'd have to say he's moderately preferable to most of the other "name" coaches that are available in terms of winning percentage, and I think he's done a better job at winning with less than some of the other coaches have with more. I'm not too worried about personel issues since I expect a lot of the current team to be gone. I'm still not convinced our next coach is going to be the "great" coach that gets us a championship, or even near it like the greatest coach we had got us. We've still got a tough 2-3 years ahead of us, and in some regards Carlisle might be great for that - he basically set everything up nicely for Brown to come in and win in Detroit. But if we were to be a .500 ish team and play ugly, unwatchable basketball... not good.
kupman
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Topic is Carlisle being the next head coach of the Kings......OK GO!!!!!
Reminds me of the Saturday Night Live flick with Mike Meyers as the old lady therapist setting up the topics and then asking for them to be discussed while she collected herself!!!!
LOL, I was thinking the same thing.
"Dr. Pepper is neither a doctor nor a pepper....please discuss."
I used to love that show.
(maybe the show is intentionally tanking so it should be great again in a few years)
btw where'd you get this .750 win percentage thing dude? He has like a .571 winning percentage: http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/carliri01c.html
CaminoChaos
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nbrans
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I'm no math whiz, but 281 divided by 493 equals a 57% winning percentage.
CaminoChaos
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Sorry, I'm an idiot. Well 57% is still good.
sidney
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True. btw, Adelman carreer pct is .609
kupman
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CaminoChaos
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Jerryaki
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that was less to do with "fire carlisle!" than "hire larry brown!!!" he was available, the pistons went for him, and it ended up in a title.
Packt
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Detroit was bad like us when he was hired, but Indiana was already one of the top teams in the East. The year he was hired, he turned them into legit contenders (close to 20 more wins than the previous year), then the year after that, was the brawl and the team never recovered.
I wouldn't be against hiring him becuase he's a good coach, but I'm not a fan.
I wouldn't be against hiring him becuase he's a good coach, but I'm not a fan.
CaminoChaos
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I want to win. I don't care how. The same arguement can be made for Popovich or Larry Brown but i can't think of anyone who wouldn't want them as are head coach. Granted Carlilse is step below those two but still far better choice than most.
