Bring Peja off the Bench?

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What does everyone think of bringing Peja off the bench and starting Thomas and Reef and the 3 and 4 spots. Rebounding would definitely be up, and Thomas seems to play better as a starter. This wouldn't have to be permanent, just until Peja pulls his head out of his ***.
 
What do I think of it?

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Ridiculous.
Absurd.
Ludicrous.
Silly.
Not gonna happen.

If you sit Peja down, he won't pull his head out. He'll curl up in the fetal position and never be seen or heard from again.

The only way for him to get his shot back is to shoot.

This whole idea of benching players for poor performance is something we argue about every year. Peja is putting for effort; his shots just aren't falling. You don't penalize a shooter for that.
 
Bring Peja from the bench?!Too unserious...
Kings need chemistry,not bringing Peja from the bench.
 
Peja won't get his shot back without shooting, I wouldn't want Thomas to start over Peja but I feel Thomas should play alot more then he has the last two games. He Brings too much.
 
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I want Peja to be a starter.

I know he hasnt shot the lights out of the box scores over the past two games, but i still think he is the best shooter on the team.

I've read loads of threads here about how he cant make he own shot and how he's soft, cant defend quick men and how he relied on Chris and Vlade...all of that may be true, but if this team can work together so that they can engineer court position for him then im convinced we will see both his scoring and his perecntages from inside the arc and outside rise to the levels of a couple of years ago.

IMHO he has the ability, this team just has to find the way to make effective use of his tremendous role player shooting capability.
 
I don't think that benching (as in punishment) Pedja is being suggested. Having Pedja (or one of our starters) come of the bench to balance out the team would be a good idea. The problems are:

- RA is not the type of coach to do it. It's more of a Scott Skiles or Larry Brown thing. Coaches who want to impose unrelenting pressure on the opponent and who almost never play pure "second unit" and like to mix it up.
- Pedja is bad candidate, because he is (normally) good at the beginning of each half and usually tapers off at the end of the game.

Bonzi would be the only guy that I would like to see coming off the bench, while logging starters minutes (like McHale did). But Bonzi is also the guy who wants to start and who is our "other" post-up and rebound guy.

Either way, we simply cannot afford to bring one of our starters off the bench in order to shake things up or provide scoring off the bench.
 
" If you sit Peja down, he won't pull his head out. He'll curl up in the fetal position and never be seen or heard from again." That's a true statement. I think Pedja is feeling the pressure to produce and is rushing all of his shots. The boy needs to relax and let the game come to him.
 
By bringing him off the bench, Peja's value could also be lowered which would help us next season. Yes, he has a pretty shot most of the time, but I think K.T. and Reef would make up for his points easily, along with grabbing more boards. Just some thoughts though, I'm not saying to do it, I'm just thinking what could happen if he was playing with the second group of guys.
 
bozzwell said:
I don't think that benching (as in punishment) Pedja is being suggested. Having Pedja (or one of our starters) come of the bench to balance out the team would be a good idea. The problems are:

- RA is not the type of coach to do it. It's more of a Scott Skiles or Larry Brown thing. Coaches who want to impose unrelenting pressure on the opponent and who almost never play pure "second unit" and like to mix it up.
- Pedja is bad candidate, because he is (normally) good at the beginning of each half and usually tapers off at the end of the game.

Bonzi would be the only guy that I would like to see coming off the bench, while logging starters minutes (like McHale did). But Bonzi is also the guy who wants to start and who is our "other" post-up and rebound guy.

Either way, we simply cannot afford to bring one of our starters off the bench in order to shake things up or provide scoring off the bench.

Bonzi coming off the bench (because of Memphis' very heavy rotation) and not always starting is exactly what caused problems in Memphis. That'll never happen (maybe once, but I really doubt it) with Bonzi in Sac, even for what you proposed. Besides, starting Martin or Garcia at SG wouldn't be good for the team. We aren't the Bobcats/Hawks/Hornets.
 
bozzwell said:
I don't think that benching (as in punishment) Pedja is being suggested.
yes, not as punishment, just to mix things up.
 
no way..Peja just scored 57 points and won the game against Houston last night..well in NBA live 06 (PC version)...it's because most of the plays i run and set-up is for Peja to get free and take that open 3 point shot..how can you bench a 3 point shooting threat...wish it was the same in real life...anyway it was in the nba live games that i started to become an avid Kings fan..
 
Not to give peja any excuses, but i do like the way that he has been trying to get to the rack a little more. He just doesn't get any respect from the officials, I'm sure he'll get his shot on track. I just don't think that he is worth resigning any where near the max.
 
KT showed some really good game. Anyone seen him snatch that rebound in the 2nd (or 3rd) quarter last night? That was quite impressive. Unfortunatelly with our current roster he is the odd man out. As good of a rebounder as he is, overally his game does not complement the game of our big guys (Miller and SAR) so that he could play with them (especially with Bonzi as another post up player in the lineup). He would be crowding the middle and we wouldn't be able to effectively spread the opponent's defense like we can do with Peja. In addition, after seeing SAR play down low like an animal in last couple of games, I definitely believe he is our starting PF.

My hope is that KT would keep playing at the high level and that eventually we would be able to trade him for a young big guy to develope. Who? I can't think of anyone right now, but maybe Petrie can come up with something.
 
Jus no way it happens, so it doesn't really matter if its a good idea or not. Very few top NBA players would accept and respond positively to that, and certainly not Peja. He will eventually work his way out of the current morass. I can't promise anything better than last year, but eventually he'll be back to being Peja. But you bench him...yikes. Could very well lose him, and maybe in the process the team. Not remotely Rick's style anyway.

As an aside, because of KTs outside shooting and Reef's post game I actually think the KT/Reef pairing could work, and would certainly make us far more formidable on the glass and considerably tougher. But its not happening while Peja is still on the team. (and yes, I leave open the remote possibility it could happen if Peja were traded or both SAR and KT were back next year and Peja left via free agency -- although truthfully I think KT may be the guy who ends up moved if he isn't able to accept the bench role inthe interim).
 
Bricklayer said:
As an aside, because of KTs outside shooting and Reef's post game I actually think the KT/Reef pairing could work, and would certainly make us far more formidable on the glass and considerably tougher. But its not happening while Peja is still on the team.
This is what I was trying to get at. Peja will never accept the role, and it will never happen, but should he leave, I'm actually starting to like the idea of K.T./Reef combo. Now I don't really care if Peja sticks around next year, especially if he's gonna get the max.
 
Isn't it putting the cart before the horse just a bit to be plotting strategy for the Kings post-Peja???
 
VF21 said:
Isn't it putting the cart before the horse just a bit to be plotting strategy for the Kings post-Peja???
not when you live in the eternal TDOS like I do. I'm already planning to help bibby's kids with their footwork and defensive mobility.
 
Bring Peja off the bench??? Come on kids; let's focus on the real problem and possible real solutions. I understand that this is a forum for NEW ideas but if I was a Mavs fan (for example) looking in, I would lose a lot of respect for this forum. Remember Turk coming off the bench, what a mess. Peja will be fine, and you know what, so will the Kings.

Also, all this soft crap, come on, he’s banging more this year than he ever has - give the guy some credit.
 
DavisAggie said:
Also, all this soft crap, come on, he’s banging more this year than he ever has - give the guy some credit.
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I took what you said to heart, and upgraded his softness. He should be given more credit, he has a beautiful three point shot. Peja has been upgraded to the "triple" roll softie.
 
thesanityannex said:
What does everyone think of bringing Peja off the bench and starting Thomas and Reef and the 3 and 4 spots. Rebounding would definitely be up, and Thomas seems to play better as a starter. This wouldn't have to be permanent, just until Peja pulls his head out of his ***.

As VF said... ridiculous and absurd. Also, bringing him off the bench to lower his value? First, I doubt it would lower his value much. Second, it would guarantee he won't be back, no matter for how much.
 
Some of yall are going way too far. I've been reading some of yall's posts about trading Bibby and take Peja off the bench and all that ****. We supposed to be the most loyal fans in the NBA, and yall already giving up on our Kings. I mean the Nuggets are 0-2 too, but I bet they will be one of the best in the west, and we can be in the same road. Yeah, opening night was disgusting, Bibby and Peja aren't playing good b-ball right now, but doesn't everybody have bad days? Sorry to say, but honestly some of yall are crying like bitches right now and you know it.
 
cdep73 said:
Some of yall are going way too far. I've been reading some of yall's posts about trading Bibby and take Peja off the bench and all that ****. We supposed to be the most loyal fans in the NBA, and yall already giving up on our Kings. I mean the Nuggets are 0-2 too, but I bet they will be one of the best in the west, and we can be in the same road. Yeah, opening night was disgusting, Bibby and Peja aren't playing good b-ball right now, but doesn't everybody have bad days? Sorry to say, but honestly some of yall are crying like bitches right now and you know it.
I started this thread and I'd like to clear things up before accusations of "crying like bitches" is thrown around again. If you read what I said, it was simply an idea. No where am I whining about Peja and no where did I give up on him. I just happen to like the idea of K.T./Reef at the 3/4.
 
thesanityannex said:
I started this thread and I'd like to clear things up before accusations of "crying like bitches" is thrown around again. If you read what I said, it was simply an idea. No where am I whining about Peja and no where did I give up on him. I just happen to like the idea of K.T./Reef at the 3/4.
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And that's ok, that's your idea. I'm talking about some of the people that take it to the extreme.
 
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