Bibby - Mobley

32.5% shooting from the floor 13-40
26.3% 3 point shooting 5-19
25% Free Throw Shooting 1-4

Tonight there were times where it looked as if Mike did not want to play any D.

It is hard to win the game when you shoot this low from the floor.

Tonight sacramento had 13 more shots at the basket than houston and also only shot 50% from the free throw line.

I cannot believe the kings did not get blown out, with the way the numbers from houston pointed towards a blow out.
 
The game could have been a blowout. But Kings hung tough that's why it wasn't one. So I'm happy for them trying though. :)

The guards played not great and that really hurt us a lot. Plus, Rockets guards were shooting the lights out (especially James). So the D there also wasn't good. There were some plays where even when a Kings player was right in the face of a Rockets', he still made the shot. :/ Tough to guard that.
 
James, JB and Wesley were huge off the bench and that was a major benefit for the Rockets. I think people need to remember that the Houston Rockets are the hottest team in the NBA right now. Without a big to go up against the Yao-Deke combination, we were lucky to be in the game at all.
 
I am not so sure not having a big to go up against the 2 was the question, heck when adleman put tag in van gundy pulled yao at the next dead ball.

I would have loved to see coach play tag on yao tonight, because yao is not a quick center and tag is only a couple of inchs shorter.

HEck coach had corliss guarding yao tonight and he is almost a foot and a half shorter
 
Diehard Jim said:
I am not so sure not having a big to go up against the 2 was the question, heck when adleman put tag in van gundy pulled yao at the next dead ball.

I would have loved to see coach play tag on yao tonight, because yao is not a quick center and tag is only a couple of inchs shorter.

HEck coach had corliss guarding yao tonight and he is almost a foot and a half shorter

Ostertag, for whatever reason and I don't have a clue what it is, simply isn't getting the opportunity to prove himself one way or the other against other bigs in the league. I don't know if he's on a heart monitor and they fear he's going to collapse, if he has a flatulence problem on the court that keeps him from playing major minutes, or if RA simply doesn't have any faith in him. Today we were in desperate need of Brad Miller.
 
I think mike must be getting tired he 3 ball the last few weeks has been coming up short on the front of the rim.

today he looked as if he was trying to push the ball instead of shoot it.

on the tag front, who the heck knows what is up! we have a 7 foot 2 center and there is only 4 guys in the league who are taller than him but he is now living in DNP territory.
 
VF21 said:
Today we were in desperate need of Brad Miller.

Im always in desperate need of Brad Miller ;)

i believe you are right DJ...Mike did seem to pushing the ball a bit...and like Hubie said he's not just missing but missing badly...when he's not shooting the ball well...he tends to get frustrated rather quickly and the rest of his game slacks off a bit

but i confidence that BOTH Cat and Mike will be ready for the Magic men on Tuesday...Steve Francis got the best of Cat last match up but i don't think that'll happen again...i have a hunch...and i never worry about Mike he'll bounce back...he always does :)
 
The kings really missed miller today because he owns yao ming. miller plays yao as good if not better than any other center in the league. I think part of the reason is yao really has to play defense on brad.
 
Diehard Jim said:
Tonight there were times where it looked as if Mike did not want to play any D.

YES. Which is what pissed me off -- I don't care if you go 2 for 20 if you're taking good shots (which Bibby was taking for most of the night tonight), but he was the last man to come down the floor on a couple of possessions and both guys he guarded (Wesley and James) had amazing nights thanks to Bibby being lazy...
 
Bibby was horrible tonight. Since everyone wants to jump on Peja lets jump on Mike for todays effort. Bibby plays absolutely no D at all and was horrible on offense tonight..

Tag is not the answer and I have no clue as to what some Kings fans think he is and why he should play more. He is the equal to Bradley in skill with about 75lbs more weight.

Millers loss will become more evident as the games go on. Especially for plays designed for Peja and Bibby.
 
it was a tough game, but we still could've won it. we were within like 6 with what, 3 minutes left? i agree that mike was waaay soft on D and seemed to slack off after missing all those shots, and i think thats where we went wrong. in order to win without brad, we need mike's energy to carry us and he didnt today.
 
BigWaxer said:
Millers loss will become more evident as the games go on. Especially for plays designed for Peja and Bibby.
I agree...when I found out that Brad was going to be out, I just felt so not good.

Don't worry though...I still believe the Kings will do well. :)

iheartBrad said:
Im always in desperate need of Brad Miller ;)
Hehehe...Did you see what Brad wore today?? Even though I wish it was a Kings uniform, his outfit look great on him. :D

But when I saw him in crutches..>> :(
 
Diehard Jim said:
I think mike must be getting tired he 3 ball the last few weeks has been coming up short on the front of the rim.

today he looked as if he was trying to push the ball instead of shoot it.

on the tag front, who the heck knows what is up! we have a 7 foot 2 center and there is only 4 guys in the league who are taller than him but he is now living in DNP territory.

If height meant that much, then Shawn Bradley should be right up there with Yao. Being tall will only get you so far. Ostertag, though he had his moments, just isn't very good. Also, I think his conditioning has been sub-par. I'm confident that RA has a good reason for not playing him and that seems most likely. I mean, he goes from consistent minutes to not even getting the nod vs. a center that just got here weeks ago. RA is not an idiot. Ostertag was in Sloan's doghouse for being lazy too. He's probably not working as hard as Skinner.

As a side-note, Van Gundy was quoted for saying that Yao Ming would be better served if he was 7-1 or 7-2.
 
Zyphen said:
If height meant that much, then Shawn Bradley should be right up there with Yao. Being tall will only get you so far. Ostertag, though he had his moments, just isn't very good. Also, I think his conditioning has been sub-par. I'm confident that RA has a good reason for not playing him and that seems most likely. I mean, he goes from consistent minutes to not even getting the nod vs. a center that just got here weeks ago. RA is not an idiot. Ostertag was in Sloan's doghouse for being lazy too. He's probably not working as hard as Skinner.

As a side-note, Van Gundy was quoted for saying that Yao Ming would be better served if he was 7-1 or 7-2.

Tag was in Sloan's doghouose -- and started hundreds of games for him over his career and averaged 20+ minutes for a perennial playoff team, including two Finals appearances. Not using him at all is on Adelman. The guy can help in the areas we need help, but Rick cannot "see" that kind of player. He is blind to the virtues of low skill defensive players. He sees the game like the guard he was. First question is "can the guy shoot?" If the answer is no, he's blind to the other possibilities.
 
Diehard Jim said:
The kings really missed miller today because he owns yao ming. miller plays yao as good if not better than any other center in the league. I think part of the reason is yao really has to play defense on brad.

Well this season Yao has KILLED Miller, so I don't know about that anymore. Tag should have been in there. No reasoning behind that.

Another thing to remember is that Yao didn't dominate today. The Rockets were hitting unbelievable shots! What the heck first the Clipps and now the Rockets.
 
Zyphen said:
If height meant that much, then Shawn Bradley should be right up there with Yao. Being tall will only get you so far. Ostertag, though he had his moments, just isn't very good. Also, I think his conditioning has been sub-par. I'm confident that RA has a good reason for not playing him and that seems most likely. I mean, he goes from consistent minutes to not even getting the nod vs. a center that just got here weeks ago. RA is not an idiot. Ostertag was in Sloan's doghouse for being lazy too. He's probably not working as hard as Skinner.

As a side-note, Van Gundy was quoted for saying that Yao Ming would be better served if he was 7-1 or 7-2.

Its never been any secret, Adelman likes bigs that can score.
 
Bricklayer said:
Tag was in Sloan's doghouose -- and started hundreds of games for him over his career and averaged 20+ minutes for a perennial playoff team, including two Finals appearances. Not using him at all is on Adelman. The guy can help in the areas we need help, but Rick cannot "see" that kind of player. He is blind to the virtues of low skill defensive players. He sees the game like the guard he was. First question is "can the guy shoot?" If the answer is no, he's blind to the other possibilities.

I'd say there'd be something to your argument if Skinner could shoot. Did he suddenly develop an 18-footer while I wasn't looking? When Tag started for Sloan, he was still in his prime and had another kidney. Even then, he was probably the one who held back the team the most. Skinner doesn't possess a skill set that's significantly advantageous over Tag. Therefore, I think it's reasonable to think that it's mostly about who's bringing more to the practices and who's working harder at the gym.

The reason why Nelson plays a lot of small ball isn't because he's blind to the fact that he has a 7-6 center. It's because the center (Shawn Bradley) sucks.
 
SacTownKid said:
Well this season Yao has KILLED Miller, so I don't know about that anymore. Tag should have been in there. No reasoning behind that.

Another thing to remember is that Yao didn't dominate today. The Rockets were hitting unbelievable shots! What the heck first the Clipps and now the Rockets.

Yao always pulls an extra defender that lingers close-by even when he doesn't have the ball. He had a huge impact. It translated into the roleplayers getting wide open looks. When they try to play him one-on-one, he burns his man by doing that spin move to the baseline or simply shooting over him.
 
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