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Kings' way goes astray
A four-game road trip begins with shooting woes in the second half of a loss to the Hornets.
By Scott Howard-Cooper - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 12:45 am PST Saturday, January 27, 2007


Their ambulance-chasing ways came to an end Friday night, when the Kings got another opponent with a roster mangled by injury and, for a change, couldn't capitalize.

So they chased the referees with words, insistent that a clutch shot in the final seconds inside New Orleans Arena should have been disallowed as a 24-second shot clock violation.

And they chased after their own missed shots, of which there were a lot.

The Kings lost to the short-handed New Orleans Hornets 88-84, but mostly just lost their way, scoring 10 points in the third quarter and making 36.4 percent of their field goals in all to kick away what should have been the easy portion of their current four-game trip. On the bright side, there's Dallas tonight and the possible reminder of what hurting really is.

This was bad enough. The Kings scored two fewer points in the third period Friday than in any other quarter of the season and they shot worse in the same stumbling 12 minutes (12.5 percent) than in any other quarter. They were at least saved from the additional indignity of the poorest overall outing from the field, shooting better than the 34.8 percent at Minnesota on opening night.

"That's going to be very difficult to win on an opposing team's home court if you can't score more than 10 points in a quarter," forward Corliss Williamson said.

And still they could have, in what would have given the Kings another chance to feel good about outlasting the downtrodden -- just like they did in coming from 20 points down to beat New Jersey, down two starters, Monday at Arco Arena. And in beating Milwaukee without star Michael Redd on Wednesday, and in beating Boston minus Paul Pierce on Jan. 19.

The three wins in the four games prior to Friday had all come against opponents missing either their best player (Pierce, Redd) or two starters (the Nets) and all had been by eight points or less. New Orleans fit. The Hornets, visitors to their own city, are probably weeks away from getting reigning Rookie of the Year Chris Paul back again and maybe a season away from getting Peja Stojakovic back, and then it even turned into a close game.

The Kings had overcome the disaster flick of a third quarter, another benefit of the wounded opponent, and trailed 84-82 heading into the final minute. On the next New Orleans possession, Ron Artest stole the ball from David West. The time after that, the Sacramento defense stepped up again, denying the Hornets an attempt as the shot clock ran down.

It was all the way down to one when Devin Brown launched a three-pointer from the right side. At least that's what the referees said. When the shot went in with 11.3 seconds remaining, the Kings demanded otherwise, smacking their hands on the tops of their heads on the sideline to plead for a 24-second violation.

It didn't come. They could have had the ball with about 11 seconds remaining and a two-point deficit. Instead, it was 87-82, and it was all but over.

"We had to play defense for 25 seconds on that one possession," center Brad Miller said.

If the night had importance for the Kings as the start of their trip, it had value for the Hornets beyond the standings as one of six games that will be played in New Orleans before the return becomes full-time next season. By that measure, it was a bad outcome, with the upper deck half-filled at best and countless empty blocks in the lower bowl as part of the announced crowd of 16,607 in a building with a listed capacity of 19,163.

It was also the first Kings appearance since Jan. 8, 2005. Since then, the teams have met in Oklahoma City and Norman, Okla., in the NBA version of fallout from Hurricane Katrina, making this the third new location in as many Sacramento road games in the series.

About the writer: The Bee's Scott Howard-Cooper can be reached at showard-cooper@sacbee.com.
 
It was all the way down to one when Devin Brown launched a three-pointer from the right side. At least that's what the referees said. When the shot went in with 11.3 seconds remaining, the Kings demanded otherwise, smacking their hands on the tops of their heads on the sideline to plead for a 24-second violation.

It didn't come. They could have had the ball with about 11 seconds remaining and a two-point deficit. Instead, it was 87-82, and it was all but over.

"We had to play defense for 25 seconds on that one possession," center Brad Miller said.

If the night had importance for the Kings as the start of their trip, it had value for the Hornets beyond the standings as one of six games that will be played in New Orleans before the return becomes full-time next season. By that measure, it was a bad outcome, with the upper deck half-filled at best and countless empty blocks in the lower bowl as part of the announced crowd of 16,607 in a building with a listed capacity of 19,163.

It was also the first Kings appearance since Jan. 8, 2005. Since then, the teams have met in Oklahoma City and Norman, Okla., in the NBA version of fallout from Hurricane Katrina, making this the third new location in as many Sacramento road games in the series.

About the writer: The Bee's Scott Howard-Cooper can be reached at showard-cooper@sacbee.com.

musta been real hard, too. :rolleyes:
 
What Miller was referring to was the 24-second possession that ended up being a 25-second possession. If you look at the replay - and I have at least a dozen times - the red border around the backboard doesn't comes on, even though the shot clock clearly shows zero. And the ball was still in Brown's hands when the zero appeared.

The Kings HAD done their jobs on that defensive set; some kind of mechanical malfunction was responsible, not poor execution by the Kings.
 
What Miller was referring to was the 24-second possession that ended up being a 25-second possession. If you look at the replay - and I have at least a dozen times - the red border around the backboard doesn't comes on, even though the shot clock clearly shows zero. And the ball was still in Brown's hands when the zero appeared.

The Kings HAD done their jobs on that defensive set; some kind of mechanical malfunction was responsible, not poor execution by the Kings.

i understand that. i saw the play, too. but i've always been of the opinion that one play rarely defines a game. granted, its probably hard to decipher that from my statement, but i enjoy being cryptic. ;)

now, there are of course momentum changers in a game...and there are game winning plays as well...but so much happens during the course of a game that its hard to point at one single play and say, "that's the one that lost us the game," especially when the team you're playing is severely injured and, therefore, outmatched. i had a chance to watch the second half of last night's game, and there was indeed a shot clock error on that play. however, the kings put themselves in a position for that play to actually matter by not executing efficiently on either end of the court for the majority of the second half that i saw. had they decided to show up, on offense especially, they could have shaken off that play.

that's the difference between winners and losers. the winners don't put themselves in a position for a single play to destroy their chances. and on the rare occasions that it happens, the winners can shake it off and overcome it. i guess my point is that this kings team truly is a losing team. everybody says they're underachieving. i say they're not. they're playing at a level that's befitting of the players on the team. there's nobody around that wants to step up on a consistent basis. they've got no leadership in the coaching staff. they've got no leadership on the court. the only leadership they have in the lockerroom is an aging and decreasingly effective corliss williamson. that's certainly valuable, but one aging veteran can't overcome the issues plaguing these team right now.

anybody who actually wants any member of this starting unit not named kevin martin to stick around is crazy. ship 'em all outta here...and soon.
 
Regardless of what else may or may not have happened, that Hornet possession was over, done, finished... The fact they got three points out of it was akin to a certain Laker play after time had expired in the first half in game 4 of the WCF. You know, one of the plays that led to the installation of the red light system for the shot clock to begin with?

It's just another example of how Murphy's Law seems to have been adopted and nurtured by the Kings. Had the electronics worked properly we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

It's not about winners, losers, or anything deep. It's just another example of something going wrong at the worst possible moment.
 
i understand that. i saw the play, too. but i've always been of the opinion that one play rarely defines a game.
LOL, well last night alone, 4 out of the 12 games played were decided by "one play" so I don't know why you'd say it "rarely" happens. If fact, most games that end with the scores 2-3 points apart are decided by one posession, or "one play". That adds up to quite a lot of games per season in this league. :)
 
Regardless of what else may or may not have happened, that Hornet possession was over, done, finished... The fact they got three points out of it was akin to a certain Laker play after time had expired in the first half in game 4 of the WCF. You know, one of the plays that led to the installation of the red light system for the shot clock to begin with?
Not to drudge up my least favorite memory, but wasn't the red light system there already? It was merely the replay rule that was added as a result of this play.

I wouldn't be opposed to extending the replay rule to allow for checks on the 24 second violation like the one last night or even just to check positioning on a charge/block call if its a close enough call to warrant a conference between all 3 officials or one team calls a timeout.
 
I think you're right. I had a temporary brain lapse there for a moment - it seems to happen every time I try to focus on certain parts of the 2002 WCF.

;)
 
http://www.sacbee.com/351/story/114552.html

Kings' way goes astray
A four-game road trip begins with shooting woes in the second half of a loss to the Hornets.
By Scott Howard-Cooper - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 12:45 am PST Saturday, January 27, 2007


Their ambulance-chasing ways came to an end Friday night, when the Kings got another opponent with a roster mangled by injury and, for a change, couldn't capitalize.


And still they could have, in what would have given the Kings another chance to feel good about outlasting the downtrodden -- just like they did in coming from 20 points down to beat New Jersey, down two starters, Monday at Arco Arena. And in beating Milwaukee without star Michael Redd on Wednesday, and in beating Boston minus Paul Pierce on Jan. 19.

The three wins in the four games prior to Friday had all come against opponents missing either their best player (Pierce, Redd) or two starters (the Nets) and all had been by eight points or less. New Orleans fit. The Hornets, visitors to their own city, are probably weeks away from getting reigning Rookie of the Year Chris Paul back again and maybe a season away from getting Peja Stojakovic back, and then it even turned into a close game.

a) I generally think Howard Cooper cannot write
b) he overemphasizes the point
BUT
c) he gets it and hammers on a point I didn't want to really bring up given the already gloomy state of things around here. We've barely been beating teams completely mangled by injuries. Adn we've been at full strength. Boston without Pierce or Wally or Allen. New Jersey without Kristic or Jefferson at home, and it took Mike's superheroics because he was mad at getting booed. Milwaulkee at home without Reed, Simmons, Villanueva or Mo Williams on the second night of a back to back, and it took a heroic 4th quarter by Ron. I'm not sure whether the recent wins don't emphasize just how bad we really are right now.
 
Bee article re Kings by Cooper

The bottom line is that it was a 24 second violation and they would not have the three points and we would have had the ball with 11 seconds left on the clock to make a basket and win the game. It was, AGAIN, the referees deciding who won the game, not the players.

We have written numerous times to the NBA regarding the officiating. There is never a response, but it feels good to vent and know at least one person read the message. Almost every other sport has a "challenge" rule or instant replay the last minute or two of play--we have addressed that with the NBA too. :)
 
The Kings have legitamate beef on that 24 second violation because the only reason he was wide open was because the defender left him knowing that there was only a couple seconds left on the clock. The whole last 5 seconds of defense was completely based off of that shot clock going off. Even the Hornets players knew it went off, because when the ball went in they just stood there... But whatever, it's tough to win when you score what 12 points in the third quarter I think it was?
 
I'm of the belief that you don't stop playing til the whistle or buzzer goes off. So yeah it was a tough break but to predicate your defense on the shot clock going off seems like a certain plan for failure.
 
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