Bee: Kings go with old offense

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I noticed it the first game they brought it back...i saw kevin, sar and bibby running the patented high post corner play and i either theyr'e just improvising and not listening to the coach...or the players talked to Muss and got it back in...either way. i'm happy. I've seen kMart taking some back door cuts...it's freakin great to see. I cant explain how excited i am. that is the offense brought us our glory. hopefully we can execute it much better with miller back, a better martin and a artest. The bee wrote a nice article on it too.

GO KINGS!
Adelman didnt know defense, but he knew his X's and O's!!

Here's the Bee's article:

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/83963.html

Kings go with old offense
The high-post attack favored by former coach Rick Adelman provides a boost.
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PST Tuesday, November 28, 2006
Everything old becomes new again, as they say, especially when it comes to sputtering offenses in the NBA.

Precisely three weeks ago, the Kings were four games into the Eric Musselman era, and the difference between the new and old regimes had become apparent in glaringly obvious ways. The as-advertised defense was much improved under the new coach, but the offense was equally inferior. The Kings averaged 89 points in the first four games and went five consecutive games without breaking triple digits -- a performance matched only once in the previous eight seasons under former coach Rick Adelman.

Ironically, it was about that time that Musselman inserted the offense that was an Adelman favorite, a set dubbed "corner" that the layman fan knows better as the patented high-post offense run by big men who are skilled passers. It has since become the primary attack, while the casualty, for now, has been an offensive set called "open," which features everyone on the perimeter for a pass-and-cut style and has not been utilized of late.

Beyond the X's and O's, the change of attack has seemed to help the transition that can be expected with a new coach, allowing the Kings to adjust to the new while relying on the old. In the last eight games, the Kings have averaged 105 points and gone 5-3.

Kings forward Corliss Williamson said the familiarity with the format has had as much to do with the offensive turnaround as anything.

"We've been accustomed to running (the corner series) the past few years, so it's something you feel comfortable with," Williamson said. "You know how that next person is going to react off that screen, or when they curl off or stuff like that. I think it makes it a lot easier. We just have to get comfortable with the other sets as well, and once we do that we'll be better."

To hear Kings shooting guard Kevin Martin's reaction, the return of an old set was like the return of an old friend.

"That's what I was nurtured on coming up," said Martin, the third-year player. "That's all we ran my first couple years here."

Back when, as Martin remembers, the Kings were renowned for their ability to share the ball in ways most teams didn't.

"Moving the ball is a big thing with us," Martin said. "A couple guys on our team can (score when isolated), but we don't want to get into that game. We just want to keep moving the ball. We kept on saying it to each other, play together and make the game fun on offense. And that's what we've been doing."

They're still nowhere near a sharpshooting team, ranking 22nd in the league with a collective mark of 44.3 percent. Among the starters, small forward Ron Artest and point guard Mike Bibby continue to struggle the most, with Artest shooting at a 37.4 percent clip (65 of 174) and Bibby at 36.7 percent (65 of 177). Artest has hit 8 of 45 three-pointers (17.8 percent), while Bibby's 30.9 percent (21 of 68) from beyond the arc is his lowest mark since his 1998-99 rookie season in Vancouver.

Still, the Kings rank eighth in points scored (99.7 per game), with much of the credit belonging to strong offensive rebounding (fifth in the league, 12.6) that turn into second-chance points. They also have kept their turnover problem in check, averaging 16 in the last eight games after averaging 19.8 in the first four games.

The high-post style might be even easier to execute now that Brad Miller is back. Until playing 15 minutes against Portland on Saturday night, the center, one of the game's best-passing big men, had been out since Nov. 4 because of a torn tendon in his left foot.

"(Ball movement) is something easy that we didn't have to think about before in past years with Rick running it, something we took for granted, and we're kind of getting back to that," Miller said. "I enjoy it a lot, and we've got a couple guys who played (with the high-post offense) a couple years. It's a great offense in terms of keeping spacing and getting everybody involved."

Musselman said there was value in merely talking about offense again, this after an offseason and training camp in which defense was the focal point by a large margin.

"When you're scoring 100-plus points, they're doing something right offensively," he said. "I think they've done a good job moving the ball, and we're going to continue to keep talking about that. ... And we also played teams that like to run. You're going to score (more) when the tempo of the game changes."


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I noticed it the first game they brought it back...i saw kevin, sar and bibby running the patented high post corner play and i either theyr'e just improvising and not listening to the coach...or the players talked to Muss and got it back in...either way. i'm happy. I've seen kMart taking some back door cuts...it's freakin great to see. I cant explain how excited i am. that is the offense brought us our glory. hopefully we can execute it much better with miller back, a better martin and a artest. The bee wrote a nice article on it too.

GO KINGS!
Adelman didnt know defense, but he knew his X's and O's!!


Can you post it? And BTW Adelman's defensive numbers were better than Eric's...
 
better players expect for artest. more mobile big man through adelman's stay. I like adelman, i dont think we should of fired him but here's our situation and it hopefully we bring back the offense.
 
I think most of what this confirms is just the idea that this coaching staff is young and still learning, still feeling its way. Ont he positive side, its good that they are adapating. On the negative side, the fact that they are so soon doesn't exactly fill one wiht confidence that they know what tehy are doing. In any case, if we can just hold things together, maybe by the back half of this season we'll finally see a coherent master plan again and start to develop a consistent personality.
 
I noticed it the first game they brought it back...i saw kevin, sar and bibby running the patented high post corner play and i either theyr'e just improvising and not listening to the coach...or the players talked to Muss and got it back in...either way. i'm happy. I've seen kMart taking some back door cuts...it's freakin great to see. I cant explain how excited i am. that is the offense brought us our glory. hopefully we can execute it much better with miller back, a better martin and a artest. The bee wrote a nice article on it too.

Yeah, now all we need is the second coming of CWebb and we're in business. ;)
 
Bring back Pete Carril

bring back coach carril... what better way to have someone tutor muss on the high post offense... i'm sure petrie still has his number... bring back carril, and the offense will be a fined tuned machine and muss can concentrate on defense....
 
bring back coach carril... what better way to have someone tutor muss on the high post offense... i'm sure petrie still has his number... bring back carril, and the offense will be a fined tuned machine and muss can concentrate on defense....
Kevin would love that! :D
 
Not that in anyway I wish to poopoo Petey Carril, but I would say that Kevin is the one player who has not missed the old regime's offensive guidance thus far.
 
Not that in anyway I wish to poopoo Petey Carril, but I would say that Kevin is the one player who has not missed the old regime's offensive guidance thus far.

He doesn't because he stay in contact with Pete Carril at least weekly if not daily.
 
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