Back-up Point?

[OptimusRhyme]

Who do you guys wanna see backing up Bibby? Do you think we should draft a point or pick one up VIA trade/F/A?

I don't know if its just me but I really wanna see Price play more...

Discuss.

 

[nbrans]

If the Kings could get Mike James I'd be ridiculously excited.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

If the Kings could get Mike James I'd be ridiculously excited.

Yah James played well in Toronto, would be a nice pick up.
Bobby signing with us for cheap would be nice too.

 

[BigWaxer]

What about bjax, he has already said in not so many words he wouldn't mind being here. Tell me that wouldn't be a poplular move in sacramento.

 

[Bricklayer]

What about bjax, he has already said in not so many words he wouldn't mind being here. Tell me that wouldn't be a poplular move in sacramento.

Ok, I'm going to move this over to the personnel forum where things lioke this are normally talked about.

And yep, BJax's name has come up repeatedly, especially as a short time patch while we wait to see if Price develops or not. But Price, age, injuries, reliability, minute demands etc. are all concerns.

 

[kupman]

I am not sure that we have to go anywhere to find the back-up.....he already plays for us and his name is Ronnie Price. I have big hopes for this guy and it is time for him to play.

 

[Warhawk]

I am not sure that we have to go anywhere to find the back-up.....he already plays for us and his name is Ronnie Price. I have big hopes for this guy and it is time for him to play.

I think one year riding the pine doesn't really qualify him to be the default backup for Mike.

I'm not saying he can't be or isn't ready - I assume the coaching staff will determine that - but I haven't seen enough to hand him the job yet.

 

[nbrans]

I'm ok with signing Bobby for the LLE or the veteran's minimum, but no more. He would be great for sentimental reasons, but this is a pretty good year for backup pgs on the free agency market and I would hate to see the Kings miss out on someone like Speedy Claxton or Mike James because we got sentimental on Bobby Jackson.

 

[Kings113]

Tend to agree, Hawk.

I think we'll get a guy with some time in the leauge, Petrie's already said twice he and Muss are actively looking for a back-up PG for Mike. Hopefully one of these guys:

Duhon/Bell/Banks/B-Jax/Lue/Mo Williams/Delk/Knight. All bring what we need - at least solid on offense (shooting (except for Knight)/slashing/passing) and can defend. Just that Mo Williams isn't a defender, but think he could play some fine defense under Muss because of his mind-set and Mo's quickness and length. All can be had too.

Claxton and James I like a lot, but don't think are realistic for us because of their value. Claxton's likely to get a lock-up deal with the Hornets. James is obvious. Banks might fall into that catergory but it's up in the air right now with him on value. On Bobby, I'd only like to see him signed for a 2-3 year contract.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Duhon, B-Jax, or Knight are PG's that i would like to see come to play backup at Sactown. Knight might look for more of a role than a backup role. Duhon i like a lot, would be a great addition.

 

[BigWaxer]

Price is not ready and I see him basically following a similar path as Hart.

He may have a "okay" year for a backup at one time, he will get paid and then thats the end. I hope I am wrong but honestly... I never am

 

[Fillmoe]

mike james? are you serious.... no one on the kings team will get to see the ball... artest would flip out on him for never passing the rock... LOL

 

[Bricklayer]

In a lot of ways I would consider a move to get Bobby a vote FOR Ronnie Price.

If the goal is to contend, and the Maloofs seem to think it is, there is just no way to enter next season with an undrafted small college OG with 150 total NBA minutes under his belt as the primary backup to your star PG. But if you bring in an older guy like Bobby knowing that he will only be able to give you 2 or 3 years, you are opening up a mentoring situation for Price to eventually take over the job if he proves himself.

If instead you sign a James or a Claxton, the job is simply theirs for as long as they want it, and Price is just the 12th man filling out the roster.

 

[Warhawk]

Price is not ready and I see him basically following a similar path as Hart.

He may have a "okay" year for a backup at one time, he will get paid and then thats the end. I hope I am wrong but honestly... I never am

Oh, I don't know. The guy has some talent but just got to the big leagues and went undrafted. he was playing behind Bibby and rarely got time. Who knows what he showed in practice?

We also have a new coach and things might change in a hurry for some of the guys currently on the team....

 

[BigWaxer]

Well War I hope he does well, I am not wishing for him to fail and actually to improve on that he is in the NBA so he obviously hasn't failed.

Hard to judge right now since I haven't seen a lot of him on one year of play. I think this year and next will really tell us what "R" made of.

Lets see how hard he works this TDOS.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Artest thinks highly of Price and Artest usually says something like that because he is impressed. I think he even called him the future of Kings basketball. Price must be some kind of player to have Artest to say something like that about a player that hardly gets to play. Sign B-jax and have him and Bibby show Price the ropes. Seems logical...

 

[walker60]

I'd love to see us get Sergio Rodriguez myself...

 

[BigWaxer]

In a lot of ways I would consider a move to get Bobby a vote FOR Ronnie Price.

If the goal is to contend, and the Maloofs seem to think it is, there is just no way to enter next season with an undrafted small college OG with 150 total NBA minutes under his belt as the primary backup to your star PG. But if you bring in an older guy like Bobby knowing that he will only be able to give you 2 or 3 years, you are opening up a mentoring situation for Price to eventually take over the job if he proves himself.

If instead you sign a James or a Claxton, the job is simply theirs for as long as they want it, and Price is just the 12th man filling out the roster.

I agree and Bobby's work ethic rubs off on people. There is no "price" one can pay for that.

I wonder if he would take a little less just to be back in Sac? He can fill 2 or 3 positions give us about 20min or so a night. Seems he would be a Muss type of guy.

Question is can he stay healthy and did he get traded on good enough terms to come back? I don't see it happening anyway just blabbn

 

[Kings113]

I'd love to see us get Sergio Rodriguez myself...

A rookie PG who is like J-Will, isn't a defender, to back-up Mike Bibby? I just don't think he fits for a few reasons. Also, Geoff has already said he's actively looking for a back-up to Bibby.

In a lot of ways I would consider a move to get Bobby a vote FOR Ronnie Price.



If the goal is to contend, and the Maloofs seem to think it is, there is just no way to enter next season with an undrafted small college OG with 150 total NBA minutes under his belt as the primary backup to your star PG. But if you bring in an older guy like Bobby knowing that he will only be able to give you 2 or 3 years, you are opening up a mentoring situation for Price to eventually take over the job if he proves himself.



If instead you sign a James or a Claxton, the job is simply theirs for as long as they want it, and Price is just the 12th man filling out the roster.

Tend to agree there.

 

[walker60]

A rookie PG who is like J-Will, isn't a defender, to back-up Mike Bibby? I just don't think he fits for a few reasons. Also, Geoff has already said he's actively looking for a back-up to Bibby.

Is he bad at defense? I really don't know if he is or not, but maybe he could improve. I know he's skinny, but he's only 19...he'll put on more weight. I just think he would be able to come in for 15 minutes a night and without stalling the offense like Hart did. From the video I've seen he looks quick, although its hard to say how good the other players are and stuff.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Without even looking at any of the other suggestions(not to say they arent good, either) I'll just say that Bobby Jackson should be the number 1 choice for this...with a backcourt of a re-signed Bonzi, Bibby, and Bobby...NICE! Our 'Killer B's'

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I'd love to see us get Sergio Rodriguez myself...

Spanish Chocolate is about 3 years away from contributing...and he really cant play much defense...to call him a project would probably be an understatement. I say draft BIG and sign our PG.

 

[SacTownKid]

As I stated in another thread, Joe Maloof said Geoff and his staff are actively looking around the league to find a backup for Mike. To me it sounded like they are looking to do so through some sort of trade.

 

[Kings113]

Indeed. I also agree that Ser-Rod has project on him to a degree.

I'd love to see us get any of first 5-6 guys I mentioned back on page 1.

 

[Rome]

If i were Geoff P i would seriously look into spending the necessary amount of money required to either get Mike James or Bobby Jackson. During the season I saw our team keeping a lead until the bench came in. Hart was lost and KT was no where to be seen. Now if we have a decent PG like James or Jackson along with a big like Reef comming off the bench, we should be in pretty good shape. Although I would also like a backup center cause I hate seeing Reef play center when he's really a SF or PF at best.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I'm ok with signing Bobby for the LLE or the veteran's minimum, but no more. He would be great for sentimental reasons, but this is a pretty good year for backup pgs on the free agency market and I would hate to see the Kings miss out on someone like Speedy Claxton or Mike James because we got sentimental on Bobby Jackson.

Dead on!
Truth of the matter is that there are SEVERAL good back up PG's on the market AND the Kings also need to fill the the big hole up front and that will be tough so money might be an issue, but in general the Kings should look carefully at each of the top EXPERIENCED PG's and then start making offers. As much as I would love to see BJax back it is probably true that a more durable equally or even more skilled man might be had as well.

I would love to see Price play more beceause it will mean that he has earned the time. Best thing that could happen would be for Price to develop into reliable back up.

 

[walker60]

Spanish Chocolate is about 3 years away from contributing...and he really cant play much defense...to call him a project would probably be an understatement. I say draft BIG and sign our PG.

Matt (Sacramento): I see in your mock you have Sergio Rodriguez going to the Kings at 19. How ready is he to contribute this coming year? I don't really know much about him...thanks!

Chad Ford: (2:38 PM ET ) He's good. He's been playing at a high level in Spain. Great feel for the game. Along with Marcus Williams, he has the best feel of any point guard in the draft. He's just a little wild and needs to add strength. But as far as his ability to run a team, he could come in and play right away.

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[Padrino]

Matt (Sacramento): I see in your mock you have Sergio Rodriguez going to the Kings at 19. How ready is he to contribute this coming year? I don't really know much about him...thanks!

Chad Ford: (2:38 PM ET ) He's good. He's been playing at a high level in Spain. Great feel for the game. Along with Marcus Williams, he has the best feel of any point guard in the draft. He's just a little wild and needs to add strength. But as far as his ability to run a team, he could come in and play right away.

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chad ford don't know ****. still, hard to disagree with him this time around. rodriguez is an interesting prospect, imo, because he can immediately contribute upon arriving in the nba, and that's rare at the 19 pick, if he falls that far (or farther). contribution does not necessarily mean points scored. he has incredible court vision. his ability to see everything on the floor and thread the needle with lazer precision on the pass is an incredible asset. that said, he's certainly still a project, just like any young non-lottery draft pick. and even more to the point, i'm not sure how valuable he'd be to a team like the kings. we don't have any run-and-gun players outside of martin who would benefit from rodriguez's free-wheeling, improvisation-filled, uptempo style. musselman wants to push the ball, and the kings will, but as the personnel currently stands, we're not geared to be a great passing team any longer. we have a lot of isolation players who enjoy banging in the post. rodriguez would probably feel stifled and frustrated in the kings half-court sets. of course, he'd be coming off the bench, so who knows? maybe it could work out. but really, it doesn't seem like a realistic fit in the way that it did when jason williams first came to the kings.

 

[nbrans]

I'm not so sure it's a given that Rodriguez would be able to contribute right away. It depends on his athleticism, and I wasn't able to conclusively judge that from the video. He has the skills to contribute right away on offense with dribbling and passing (shooting apparently is inconsistent), but all those fancy dribbles don't do much if you don't have the quickness to get around someone. I'm not saying Rodriguez doesn't have that kind of athleticism, just that he doesn't seem like such a sure thing to me.

 

[walker60]

I just posted it to show that he really isn't three years away from contributing. He could be a legit backup PG this coming year. Hoe can you still call him a project though? I thought players who were considered projects don't contribute right away.

Also, if Musselman wants to push the ball, and we don't have the personnel, why not Sergio? Then we actually have some players who can push the ball like Musselman wants. One or two is better than none. Sergio does have his faults, but I think he'll be a solid backup PG in year 1 of his career. At pick 19, it will be difficult to find anything better IMO.