Someone that actually plays.
Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade
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Someone hopefully that can play defense and has length. I rather get Herbert Jones if it has to be the Pelicans.
Shams has implied on ESPN that at least half the NBA has reached out today.
https://streamable.com/n9zkiy jump to 34 seconds
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TaxMan
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That is good news. Let the bidding begin. One of the non-favored teams just might be gutsy enough to give us a ransom for him. The more the merrier.
captain bill
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Sucks that D&M were calling a Stockton game when news broke but maybe a delay of a few hours will result in some juicy intel
I hope somebody has been tasked with supplying Monte with the necessary pharmaceuticals. It's shaping up to be a looooooooong week.
captain bill
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didn’t even notice the specific Shams tweet until now. Absolute POS agent move to go demand and trade then have Shams tweet *Kings are opening* the trade market. Shameless
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since they are official employees I think whatever they can offer is limited.
some have speculated that Paul was leaking to DLo and he got word that Shams was going to break the story and so DLo just went rogue to break it first which is why (according to those who listened real time) DLo went through the range of emotions and finger pointing with the apparent realization in the end that he was a pawn in the game.
AaronPDX
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I can't think of a much worse move. Gah!
sactowndog
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We still have 5 we have used picks or signed above the min: Monk, Carter, Keon, Huerter, Jones
I get you don’t care about balancing your line-up but when you don’t you often lose your best player.
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Joshyjosh31
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He isn’t agreeing to go there
Huerter will be gone along with Fox either in the Fox deal or to Brooklyn afterwards. We can trade some middling pick we get back in the deal to satisfy their demands. Lyles has to go too to get rid of Klutch so Huerter/Lyles, unprotected pick (presumably a Spurs one) gets it done.
I think we'll see something very similar to the Bagley deal that happened at the same time we did the Domas move.
sactowndog
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which Collins? Zach Collins and Sochan both shoot .300 or less from 3. They are not starting front court players.
They will be backups. Collins is salary match. Sochan is your defensive replacement. Castle is your shoot for the stars but also maybe sucks pickup along with whichever draft picks we keep. Some of the picks are just future trade fodder, as they should be if we are trying to compete with the rest of this lineup.
So...if the Thunder want to chase after Butler - and I don't know if they do, but if they do - they'll basically have to give up Hartenstein just for salary. But if we were to nose our way in there...
MIA sends: Jimmy Butler, 2030 FRP, pick swaps
MIA gets: De'Aaron Fox, Isaiah Joe
OKC sends: Isaiah Hartenstein, Isaiah Joe, Nikola Topic, as many FRPs as we can squeeze
OKC gets: Jimmy Butler
SAC sends: De'Aaron Fox
SAC gets: Isaiah Hartenstein, Nikola Topic, MIA 2030, MIA pick swaps, as many picks as we can squeeze from OKC
It actually appears to work for all teams. Not sure if Hartenstein at his contract is a great fit for us next to Domas but maybe that's not awful? If Topic comes back healthy, he's a wild card but could be a better piece than Castle.
MIA sends: Jimmy Butler, 2030 FRP, pick swaps
MIA gets: De'Aaron Fox, Isaiah Joe
OKC sends: Isaiah Hartenstein, Isaiah Joe, Nikola Topic, as many FRPs as we can squeeze
OKC gets: Jimmy Butler
SAC sends: De'Aaron Fox
SAC gets: Isaiah Hartenstein, Nikola Topic, MIA 2030, MIA pick swaps, as many picks as we can squeeze from OKC
It actually appears to work for all teams. Not sure if Hartenstein at his contract is a great fit for us next to Domas but maybe that's not awful? If Topic comes back healthy, he's a wild card but could be a better piece than Castle.
sactowndog
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I doubt it but we shall see.
Section 101
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He doesn't get a choice. All he can say is isn't signing till free agency.
sactowndog
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I like Smith, Sheppard and the PHX 1st way more than that offer. Isaac would be icing on the cake.
iowamcnabb
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is Jimmy to the Thunder a rumor? Haven’t seen that
iowamcnabb
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Dozen+ calls about Fox is great news. Get 3 or 4 suitors and give us the best haul
Houston has said they are out on any deadline deals (yes could be a bluff). And where does Isaac come from?
Outside of Jimmy to everywhere is a rumor? I dunno. But if OKC wants to go for it now, SGA/Jimmy/Chet/JW isn't a bad place to start.
Joshyjosh31
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Come on man we know how this works
captain bill
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Recce being from San Antonio still leaves us some leverage. Spurs know he will extend there if we trade for him now. BUT if we demand a ton of picks and make that known, Spurs will be on the clock to seal the deal this season so that Fox can renegotiate the contract and get a raise now. If Spurs balk at a deal over the volume of picks, that couldn’t possibly sit well with Fox - future pick holding up a $10mm bonus for him when he’s pushing to get there and start winning?? Let’s say we send him in the offseason or next deadline, he’s suddenly left with a bad taste in his mouth, $10mm less money, and the out of Miami offering him the max (and also no income tax)
if he’s truly as money oriented as he says he is
if he’s truly as money oriented as he says he is
reptilexcq2
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I honestly don't understand why FOX want to leave though. I do think he deserved full paid $. Unless owner is stingy (which is obvious throughout the years), I don't see why he is leaving.
KingsFanSince85
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I said this a while back when I admitted that my support for De’Aaron Fox was starting to wane — if he and his ridiculous agent don’t believe he can win in SAC, it’s because HE isn’t good enough!
I’m sick of this attitude and placing blame on the KINGS org as if they haven’t done enough to build around him. They paid De’Aaron and handed him the keys to the proverbial car. And HE hasn’t been able to lift this franchise in the way SGA has in OKC. Take ownership of it, De’Aaron and Rich Paul. You‘re not as good as you think you are!
Now Swipa thinks San Antonio is the where it’s at? Because he needs to ride the coattails of an alleged superstar?
De’Aaron and Rich Paul are lucky I’m not a billionaire owner of this team. I’d sit his @$$ on the bench for the next season and half to waste a crucial portion of his prime, making Paul look like the complete douche that he is, while showing them they don’t really have the power.
I wish these billionaire owners would collude to stop this player/agent nonsense. I mean, the players and agents collude in an effort to power grab — why can’t the owners? There’s really no reason for the players and agents to have this much power over actual billionaires. They wouldn’t if these owners weren’t gutless *******.
Again, if De’Aaron was as good as he and Rich Paul think — the KINGS would be a perennial top 4 seed. But he isn’t and now he’s aligned with the devil and going to tap out. What a loser mentality.
I’m beyond disappointed in De’Aaron turning to the darkside in hiring this disgrace of an agent and buying into his BS. I feel dumb believing he was better than this.
Lastly, too bad Vivek and none his fellow owners have the guts to stand up to the likes of Rich Paul and put them in their place. This didn’t used to be the case. They allowed it to happen.
I’m sick of this attitude and placing blame on the KINGS org as if they haven’t done enough to build around him. They paid De’Aaron and handed him the keys to the proverbial car. And HE hasn’t been able to lift this franchise in the way SGA has in OKC. Take ownership of it, De’Aaron and Rich Paul. You‘re not as good as you think you are!
Now Swipa thinks San Antonio is the where it’s at? Because he needs to ride the coattails of an alleged superstar?
De’Aaron and Rich Paul are lucky I’m not a billionaire owner of this team. I’d sit his @$$ on the bench for the next season and half to waste a crucial portion of his prime, making Paul look like the complete douche that he is, while showing them they don’t really have the power.
I wish these billionaire owners would collude to stop this player/agent nonsense. I mean, the players and agents collude in an effort to power grab — why can’t the owners? There’s really no reason for the players and agents to have this much power over actual billionaires. They wouldn’t if these owners weren’t gutless *******.
Again, if De’Aaron was as good as he and Rich Paul think — the KINGS would be a perennial top 4 seed. But he isn’t and now he’s aligned with the devil and going to tap out. What a loser mentality.
I’m beyond disappointed in De’Aaron turning to the darkside in hiring this disgrace of an agent and buying into his BS. I feel dumb believing he was better than this.
Lastly, too bad Vivek and none his fellow owners have the guts to stand up to the likes of Rich Paul and put them in their place. This didn’t used to be the case. They allowed it to happen.
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Joshyjosh31
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Heat in: Fox
Kings: Ware, JJJ, Jokic, and a first
Call nets trade Huerter, Lyle’s, and two firsts for Cam
Monk/Carter
Cam/Ellis
DD/JJJ
Keegan/Jovic
Sabonis/Ware
Kings: Ware, JJJ, Jokic, and a first
Call nets trade Huerter, Lyle’s, and two firsts for Cam
Monk/Carter
Cam/Ellis
DD/JJJ
Keegan/Jovic
Sabonis/Ware
Bosnian Diehard
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Could be a crazy idea, but any chance New Orleans would want to do a Fox for Zion swap?I just really don’t like the potential Spurs, Heat, Magic, Lakers packages at all. Houston has the package I would like and it’s been reported they don’t want to make a major move this season. Zion comes with clear flaws but would have the highest upside in any deal we could do.
Chupacabra
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