Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade

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funkykingston said:
I have to imagine that one big reason the Kings are reportedly looking for "win now players AND draft capital" is that they could flip that draft capital to land Cam.
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I do feel like there is a world where Vivek saw us play well without Fox during our win streak and has decided we could be a better team with a fox trade (to rebalance the roster) so lets move forward. Heck a lot of us on this forum (including myself) have posted something similar.... so it's not a crazy view. But it's also the sort of short sighted view that gets you in trouble unless you get the right trade (especially if it's a win-now trade without a lot of draft capital).
 
twslam07 said:
But then that somewhat contradicts with Reece’s tweets of Fox not demanding a trade, and if Fox is not demanding a trade in the scenario, why is Rich Paul leaking the info when the Spurs are already talking with the Kings? What’s the advantage?
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I’d argue it’s semantics. Telling the Kings (through your agent) that you are not likely to sign an extension is not technically a trade request but essentially serves as one.

What’s the advantage? I’m not sure there is one, I don’t think all intel necessarily has to be leverage. Sometimes it’s just leaked info.
 
Are fox’s messed up hands not coming into play here? I would Assume that would be a huge minus for any team looking to trade for him right now.
 
Caccia said:
I have been watching Rozier for a long time. He is not very good and is not a winner. But he is a shoot-first guard--exactly what the Kings do not need.
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Rozier wouldn't play much here, i am assuming he would be the salary matching component for the trade if Jovic and Ware( really doubtful) are the other pieces
 
fansinceday1 said:
Are fox’s messed up hands not coming into play here? I would Assume that would be a huge minus for any team looking to trade for him right now.
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No because you still get a year of healthy Fox next year. San Antonio maybe should consider having him get the surgery if they trade and take one last lotto pick (assuming they trade us ATL's picks), plus it allows teams that won't have 50-60 million in cap space in 2026 to get in on the action while only having to shed about 35.
 
Jdbraver137 said:
You are assuming Monte called klutch. I tend to think it was the other way around.
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Reports that seem undisputed are that the Kings got a great offer Sunday or Monday night and brought it to Klutch.

Everything else goes off the rails there - because Recee playing "Kangz" whereas I think that Paul seized the opportunity that was presented to try to force the trade to the team they want. It may not be a firm demand but they made a demand.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
Vlade and co mismanaged that New Orleans pick but they could have come out with two all stars from that pick plus we don’t get Fox without the reset the trade caused.
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I don't dispute the necessity of the reset, and yes, the result of drafting Fox was quite positive. But the reality remains that the Cousins asset was mismanaged. Vlade himself admitted it when he went in front of the media and said he had a better offer for Cousins on the table before ultimately taking the deal that netted Hield, a first rounder, and a second rounder. That's not close to maximum value. Cousins had warts. Injuries would go on to derail his career. But at the time of the trade, he was a monster center playing for a poorly run franchise who could use a change of scenery. Squeeze another first rounder out of the trade and you give yourself another roll of the dice with which to play. Mismanage the asset and you end up with fewer tools to improve the roster and fewer chances to improve the overall health of your franchise. Good GMs don't blink. They give their franchise as many dice to work with as possible by managing their assets well.
 
Padrino said:
I don't dispute the necessity of the reset, and yes, the result of drafting Fox was quite positive. But the reality remains that the Cousins asset was mismanaged. Vlade himself admitted it when he went in front of the media and said he had a better offer for Cousins on the table before ultimately taking the deal that netted Hield, a first rounder, and a second rounder. That's not close to maximum value. Cousins had warts. Injuries would go on to derail his career. But at the time of the trade, he was a monster center playing for a poorly run franchise who could use a change of scenery. Squeeze another first rounder out of the trade and you give yourself another roll of the dice with which to play. Mismanage the asset and you end up with fewer tools to improve the roster and fewer chances to improve the overall health of your franchise. Good GMs don't blink. They give their franchise as many dice to work with as possible by managing their assets well.
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Oh yes I don't dispute that. Just saying that we got nothing for Cousins I don't agree with. Vlade blew the trade by his own admission because in the short time frame it cost us a pic. Incidentally I think that part of this was because he went back to Cousins camp to inquire about the deal? And so it went public and New Orleans got cold feet?

Cousins did not have the same value around the league that Fox does I don't think.
 
Angelo127 said:
Do Recee's tweets not matter? I thought this was just not a big deal anymore but now people say she's a liar?

Why?
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She didn’t lie because Rich didn’t technically request a trade thanks to the semantics of “you should probably trade Fox now and here’s the team you should probably look at trading him to” as opposed to “trade Fox to the Spurs now”
 
Again, here’s Amick from yesterday:

Yet with Fox having declined extension offers from the Kings, and with his side continuing to signal that he has no plans to sign one this summer, the source said Fox’s agent, Rich Paul of Klutch Sports, recently informed the Kings that it would be wise to move him sooner rather than later. Even if it’s not to the team of his choosing.

According to the league source, Paul is expected to field all calls from interested teams and remain open about where Fox might land.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
Oh yes I don't dispute that. Just saying that we got nothing for Cousins I don't agree with. Vlade blew the trade by his own admission because in the short time frame it cost us a pic. Incidentally I think that part of this was because he went back to Cousins camp to inquire about the deal? And so it went public and New Orleans got cold feet?

Cousins did not have the same value around the league that Fox does I don't think.
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I'd agree that Cousins did not have the same value around the league as Fox does today. That's why it's doubly important for Monte to get this right. My preference would be not to trade Fox, personally, but if it's a marriage that's destined for an acrimonious split, better to move him while his value is high. Just don't pull the trigger unless you're getting maximum value back. Uncomfortable though it may be, wait for the off-season if teams are playing the "let's low-ball 'em; they're the Kangz; they'll f*** this up" game as the deadline approaches.
 
Padrino said:
I'd agree that Cousins did not have the same value around the league as Fox does today. That's why it's doubly important for Monte to get this right. My preference would be not to trade Fox, personally, but if it's a marriage that's destined for an acrimonious split, better to move him while his value is high. Just don't pull the trigger unless you're getting maximum value back. Uncomfortable though it may be, wait for the off-season if teams are playing the "let's low-ball 'em; they're the Kangz; they'll f*** this up" game as the deadline approaches.
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I'd prefer not to trade him but he chose to sign with Klutch and that's where this inevitably is going. I think we'll get the best offers now, but I agree we have time if one is not to our liking to move in the offseason. The sooner a team gets him the more flexibility they have before the extension is signed, including time to evaluate their next move. There are few teams to which I think adding Fox today puts them in the finals this season. So the extra half season is pretty key, even if he is playing with a jacked up hand and not 100%.
 
I think that a good trade in pretty short time is really a doable one. A "win-win" trade for Kings and Fox.
Fox will hopefully end-up with the Spurs, but other teams most likely be involved in the trade. Fresh start, better reffing. Hopefully better health.
Kings have a real shot to balance their squad into a "win now" type.
Kings parting with Fox won't leave them with the glaring hole in the back-court. Kings are not cornered either. For Monk to start alongside Domas and company is still a fresh feeling. I think that Monk-Domas duo has plenty of room to grow. Not just regarding each others game, but for 3 other Kings on the floor too.
Couple months ago some Spurs fans were going nuclear about "we must get Fox!!!". OK, got get him. Only on our terms though ;)
I'll just wait now for more rumors to surface.
 
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