Adelman on the Kings: They have the talent
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Burn... whatever. We have the talent to be a low seed and get our butts kicked in the playoffs. I think we all know who the better coach is. That really doesn't change the fact that some big moves are needed to make the team an actual contender instead of the team with the longest active playoff streak with nothing to show for it. If stinking it up this season and missing the playoffs accelerates those changes I'm all for it.
Amazing how many guys came to Sac to resurrect their careers. Odd how that had nothing at all to do with the coach. 
In some ways maybe this is all for the best -- the Maloofs (and some fans) get a little lesson in humility and perspective, and Rick isn't there to hold together the leaky ship anymore and cover up how bad we are listing. Remove the scapegoaat, fall apart, and finally truly rebuild.
In some ways maybe this is all for the best -- the Maloofs (and some fans) get a little lesson in humility and perspective, and Rick isn't there to hold together the leaky ship anymore and cover up how bad we are listing. Remove the scapegoaat, fall apart, and finally truly rebuild.
Agreed.
Our biggest fear would be a first round exit with little chance of significant improvement.
Now our biggest fear is a 38-44 season with even less chance of significant improvement, because nobody is dumb enough to trade for veterans who are playing like ****, and nobody wants to join a totally demoralized team.
Our biggest fear would be a first round exit with little chance of significant improvement.
Now our biggest fear is a 38-44 season with even less chance of significant improvement, because nobody is dumb enough to trade for veterans who are playing like ****, and nobody wants to join a totally demoralized team.
Brick can speak for himself, but I am pretty sure that you missed the point of his post. He was saying that Adelman held the leaky ship (the Kings) together with his superior coaching. Now that he is gone, it all falls apart. This is better because Adelman probably woulde have made the Playoffs with this team and it would be truly mediocre forever without chance of a true rebuild. The Maloofs would not agree to a genuine rebuilding unless they are loosing so badly that it does not matter. We never would have gotten there (or here) with Adelman.
Adleman got a raw deal here I think. Winningest coach in the entire franchise's history and let go like he was a bum.
Personally, I hope he get's the job in Portland. That's his home and his family is all there. The time off he's getting now will regenerate the batteries.
He'll be back and I wish him the best.
Personally, I hope he get's the job in Portland. That's his home and his family is all there. The time off he's getting now will regenerate the batteries.
He'll be back and I wish him the best.
My speculation is that the Kings would likely have had a few more wins under Adelman (you have to look at the number of games that starters missed to gauge this season), so I would put them at 19-20, maybe 20-19. To think that they would be seven games better is a bit optimistic, no matter how they played at the end of last year.
I also speculate that many people on the board would be wanting Adelman gone if he were still here.
Also, I don't think Adelman was "dissing" the new coach or organization with his statement. He was supporting the players and GM he worked with for many years. What else could he say in that situation? The team isn't good enough to make the playoffs. That would be more of a "burn."
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only those who don't know any better.
i've been an adelman supporter since he got here and brought a winning culture with him to sacramento...however, i also have no reservations about pointing out his faults and deficiencies. he's certainly no perfect coach. here's the thing, you're gonna have a hard time finding a coach in the nba that fits the perfect offensive/defensive balance every team wishes to create for themselves. there are only a coupla those guys around, and they aren't leaving the teams they're currently coaching anytime soon.
so yes, i was open to the idea of change at the head coaching position when it was brought up at the end of last season. but i was only open to change if there was a more-than-suitable replacement available that the kings could take a chance on. i'll be straight with people, i was excited about musselman becoming the next kings head coach when he was hired...but it was almost exclusively because the whole whisenant situation had me so worried that musselman seemed like the next red auerbach at the time. at the moment, though, rick adelman's record speaks for itself...as does musselman's. one's a winner. the other is not. we can talk all day about how adelman never got the ring, but i will take my chances every day of the week and twice on sunday with a 752-481 coaching record, along with 8 straight playoff appearances in sacramento.
but i guess that's neither here nor there. the kings will likely be better off in the long run, because a losing culture will earn them some solid draft picks, and, hopefully, a positive future. but that doesn't make adelman supporters wrong about what he is capable of doing.
i've been an adelman supporter since he got here and brought a winning culture with him to sacramento...however, i also have no reservations about pointing out his faults and deficiencies. he's certainly no perfect coach. here's the thing, you're gonna have a hard time finding a coach in the nba that fits the perfect offensive/defensive balance every team wishes to create for themselves. there are only a coupla those guys around, and they aren't leaving the teams they're currently coaching anytime soon.
so yes, i was open to the idea of change at the head coaching position when it was brought up at the end of last season. but i was only open to change if there was a more-than-suitable replacement available that the kings could take a chance on. i'll be straight with people, i was excited about musselman becoming the next kings head coach when he was hired...but it was almost exclusively because the whole whisenant situation had me so worried that musselman seemed like the next red auerbach at the time. at the moment, though, rick adelman's record speaks for itself...as does musselman's. one's a winner. the other is not. we can talk all day about how adelman never got the ring, but i will take my chances every day of the week and twice on sunday with a 752-481 coaching record, along with 8 straight playoff appearances in sacramento.
but i guess that's neither here nor there. the kings will likely be better off in the long run, because a losing culture will earn them some solid draft picks, and, hopefully, a positive future. but that doesn't make adelman supporters wrong about what he is capable of doing.
You make some nice points Padrino. The Kings knew what they had in Adelman (and that was a winner and a winning team). I would suggest that they don't know what they have in Musselman yet. It's been less than half of a season and the team has faced some adversity. It's a little early to talk about a "losing culture." Count me as an ostrich with my head in the sand; it will take at least the rest of the season before I join the ranks of the chicken littles.
This board has become depressing to visit. It seems that people's biggest hope is that the Kings will play poorly so that they can get a better draft pick. A win to me always feels better than a loss, no matter if they wreck their draft position or not. (I know different thread).
This board has become depressing to visit. It seems that people's biggest hope is that the Kings will play poorly so that they can get a better draft pick. A win to me always feels better than a loss, no matter if they wreck their draft position or not. (I know different thread).