Aaron Brooks to the bench...

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Keith Smart, listen up! You took Brooks out of the lineup last night with around 3 minutes to go in a tied ballgame and you went with a lineup of Evans/Salmons/Johnson/Cousins/JT and then a tied ball game turned into an 8 point lead for the Kings. You brought Brooks back and that 8 point lead shriveled to 2 and the Kings had to claw out a vidtory. What did you learn, good sir? Nothing you say? Well, the rest of us learned something!

We learned that your small wack *** lineup doesn't work against a real backcourt. We learned that you need to have a real sized ball handler in the backcourt with Tyreke if you want to win. We learned that defense IS important.

Please heed my words Smart! I'm tired of screaming at my TV for you to go with this lineup. I'm frustrated that I turned to my wife last night when you went with this lineup and told her 'watch how we finish this game NOW!' and then you screwed it up and put that midget chucker back in the game! You made me look like a genius and then frustrated me to hell and back in under 5 minutes of real time! Why? I wanted to spit shine your bald head, and 2 minutes later I then wanted to cut it open and donate your brain to science for the utter stupidity you displayed! Please tell James Johnson to know his role (don't shoot unless you are the only person in the 916 area code and solely focus on defense and passing), please relegate Brooks to towel waver, please play Jimmer and Thornton together more, please trot out a real lineup, please run more 2 man Reke and Cousins, please for the love of Sir Isaac H. Newton HEED MY WORDS. Thanks bro.
 
lol u say the small lineup is bad, and then suggest Jimmer and Thornton together?



anyway, i agree Tyreke should be the starting PG. but i think the lineup should be Reke/Thornton/Salmons

Yup, and if reading comprehension is too hard for you, I stated that his lineup was too small for a REAL backcourt. Meaning Aaron Brooks is too tiny to start alongside Tyreke against a real starting caliber NBA backcourt.
 
Keith Smart, listen up! You took Brooks out of the lineup last night with around 3 minutes to go in a tied ballgame and you went with a lineup of Evans/Salmons/Johnson/Cousins/JT and then a tied ball game turned into an 8 point lead for the Kings. You brought Brooks back and that 8 point lead shriveled to 2 and the Kings had to claw out a vidtory. What did you learn, good sir? Nothing you say? Well, the rest of us learned something!

We learned that your small wack *** lineup doesn't work against a real backcourt. We learned that you need to have a real sized ball handler in the backcourt with Tyreke if you want to win. We learned that defense IS important.

Please heed my words Smart! I'm tired of screaming at my TV for you to go with this lineup. I'm frustrated that I turned to my wife last night when you went with this lineup and told her 'watch how we finish this game NOW!' and then you screwed it up and put that midget chucker back in the game! You made me look like a genius and then frustrated me to hell and back in under 5 minutes of real time! Why? I wanted to spit shine your bald head, and 2 minutes later I then wanted to cut it open and donate your brain to science for the utter stupidity you displayed! Please tell James Johnson to know his role (don't shoot unless you are the only person in the 916 area code and solely focus on defense and passing), please relegate Brooks to towel waver, please play Jimmer and Thornton together more, please trot out a real lineup, please run more 2 man Reke and Cousins, please for the love of Sir Isaac H. Newton HEED MY WORDS. Thanks bro.

Frankly, NO.

Brooks is not doing much himself, but his presence has really benefitted Reke, and I think in time Cousins. And that is all that's important. I've used Derek Fisher or Mario Chalmers before of examples of what I am talking about. Brooks can suck, and still help. And when he has been out there with Reke we have looked like something approaching a real team.

Now what I DO support is the idea that when we don't have Reke/Brooks out there together, that we consider going with big Reke/Salmons or Reke/Thornton backcourts for reserve and possibly stretch run minutes.

Right now Brooks and Salmons together are playing like something approaching veteran roleplayers. Let's not rock that vote for a bit.
 
Also....FYI....Thornton and Jimmer are the 2 tallest backcourt players we have on the bench. Thanks for playing!
 
Frankly, NO.

Brooks is not doing much himself, but his presence has really benefitted Reke, and I think in time Cousins. And that is all that's important. I've used Derek Fisher or Mario Chalmers before of examples of what I am talking about. Brooks can suck, and still help. And when he has been out there with Reke we have looked like something approaching a real team.

Now what I DO support is the idea that when we don't have Reke/Brooks out there together, that we consider going with big Reke/Salmons or Reke/Thornton backcourts for reserve and possibly stretch run minutes.

Right now Brooks and Salmons together are playing like something approaching veteran roleplayers. Let's not rock that vote for a bit.

Respectfully, NO. Salmons and Reke in the backcourt together is what we need to do.
 
Keith Smart, listen up! You took Brooks out of the lineup last night with around 3 minutes to go in a tied ballgame and you went with a lineup of Evans/Salmons/Johnson/Cousins/JT and then a tied ball game turned into an 8 point lead for the Kings. You brought Brooks back and that 8 point lead shriveled to 2 and the Kings had to claw out a vidtory. What did you learn, good sir? Nothing you say? Well, the rest of us learned something!

We learned that your small wack *** lineup doesn't work against a real backcourt. We learned that you need to have a real sized ball handler in the backcourt with Tyreke if you want to win. We learned that defense IS important.

Please heed my words Smart! I'm tired of screaming at my TV for you to go with this lineup. I'm frustrated that I turned to my wife last night when you went with this lineup and told her 'watch how we finish this game NOW!' and then you screwed it up and put that midget chucker back in the game! You made me look like a genius and then frustrated me to hell and back in under 5 minutes of real time! Why? I wanted to spit shine your bald head, and 2 minutes later I then wanted to cut it open and donate your brain to science for the utter stupidity you displayed! Please tell James Johnson to know his role (don't shoot unless you are the only person in the 916 area code and solely focus on defense and passing), please relegate Brooks to towel waver, please play Jimmer and Thornton together more, please trot out a real lineup, please run more 2 man Reke and Cousins, please for the love of Sir Isaac H. Newton HEED MY WORDS. Thanks bro.

You are wrong.

I was thinking about the same move about the 8 min mark when Pietrus and Derozen were shooting over us. But he only put Brooks back in when they started fouling and we needed FT shooters in the lineup. He was going Brooks and Jimmer for JJ/JT on offense and subbing back on defense. This line up will work in stretches and the right situation, but it's not a long term solutuon. Not enough quickness and shooting.
 
Its not that the idea is so bad -- with this version of John Salmons in fact it comes closet to the old idea of finding a Doug Christie with a three type guy to put next to Reke. But it leaves us sans a non-disruptive SF, and it ignores the nice synergy we've been getting from the Brooks/Reke/Salmons trio. In games all three guys have played in since that lineup change was made:

6 gms
Record: 3-3 (5 of 6 at home, but also 5 of 6 against likely playoff type teams)
Pts For: 101.5
Pts Against 99.0
Salmons: 30.0min 7.3pts (.425 .438 .750) 3.3reb 2.0ast 0.5stl 0.2blk 0.7TO
Evans: 33.2min 21.3ppg (.528 .462 .800) 4.8reb 4.3ast 1.3stl 1.2blk 2.3TO
Brooks: 27.2min 10.8pts (.561 .500 .692) 2.0reb 2.7ast 1.0stl 0.0blk 1.2TO

Salmons/Reke is not a theory I am adverse to, but we've finally got something that is kinda working, that looks like a normal reasonable star/roleplayer/efficient combination (chekc out the silly 3pt shooting especially). And while people around here don't seem to have noticed it much, we've been very competitive on the court with that group. So I am in no hurry to bust it up before it even has chance to take root. No more chaos right now please. If they can keep doing that, and Cousins starts coming to play every night, we might finally be ok.
 
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Its not that the idea is so bad -- with this version of John Salmons in fact it comes closet to the old idea of finding a Doug Christie with a three type guy to put next to Reke. But it leaves us sans a non-disruptive SF, and it ignores the nice synergy we've been getting from the Brooks/Reke/Salmons trio. In games all three guys have played in since that lineup change was made:

6 gms
Record: 3-3 (5 of 6 at home, but also 5 of 6 against likely playoff type teams)
Pts For: 101.5
Pts Against 99.0
Salmons: 30.0min 7.3pts (.425 .438 .750) 3.3reb 2.0ast 0.5stl 0.2blk 0.7TO
Evans: 33.2min 21.3ppg (.528 .462 .800) 4.8reb 4.3ast 1.3stl 1.2blk 2.3TO
Brooks: 27.2min 10.8pts (.561 .500 .692) 2.0reb 2.7ast 1.0stl 0.0blk 1.2TO

Salmons/Reke is not a theory I am adverse to, but we've finally got something that is kinda working, that looks like a normal reasonable star/roleplayer/efficient combination (chekc out the silly 3pt shooting especially). And while people around here don't seem to have noticed it much, we've been very competitive on the court with that group. So I am in no hurry to bust it up before it even has chance to take root. No more chaos right now please. If they can keep doing that, and Cousins starts coming to play every night, we might finally be ok.

Agree. I saw the team as playing much better with this starting group. Much of what the OP said is true but itis working better as is.
 
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