a look back at the previous lotto winners

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Demarcus Cousins

G-League
#1
#1
-last year
the wizards won the lotto after they gave the league a black eye with the arenas gun issue. they were in the playoffs the year before and had a heated rivalry with the cavs.
the season started for them the next year then the arenas issue began then the wizards traded basically there whole roster and rebuild.
and then looks who gets the number one pick?


this year-
the cavs lost lebron to miami after there hometown king switched sides. the whole issue was a mess
stern wanted to give the cavs a redo.
and look who gets the number one pick???
the cavs

and then there's chicago getting the number 1 so they can take the hometown hero Rose.

and then there's the 07 draft with portland, knowing they'd take oden over durant to replicate the epic mistake of taking sam bowie before jordan.


the list goes on, every year.

interesting aint it?
 
Big Cuz 15

Big Cuz 15

All-Star
#2
#2
Demarcus Cousins said:
-last year
the wizards won the lotto after they gave the league a black eye with the arenas gun issue. they were in the playoffs the year before and had a heated rivalry with the cavs.
the season started for them the next year then the arenas issue began then the wizards traded basically there whole roster and rebuild.
and then looks who gets the number one pick?


this year-
the cavs lost lebron to miami after there hometown king switched sides. the whole issue was a mess
stern wanted to give the cavs a redo.
and look who gets the number one pick???
the cavs

and then there's chicago getting the number 1 so they can take the hometown hero Rose.

and then there's the 07 draft with portland, knowing they'd take oden over durant to replicate the epic mistake of taking sam bowie before jordan.


the list goes on, every year.

interesting aint it?
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it is
 
Spike

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#3
#3
Nah.

Had we won, everyone would have said, "Kings almost move to Anaheim, and now they get the #1 pick. Stern must really want to keep the team in Sac. Funny, ain't it?"
 
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Demarcus Cousins

G-League
#7
#7
Spike said:
Nah.

Had we won, everyone would have said, "Kings almost move to Anaheim, and now they get the #1 pick. Stern must really want to keep the team in Sac. Funny, ain't it?"
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Oh, the best player in the draft is from Ohio?(Lebron)
Brb Cleveland gets 1st pick

Oh, the best player in the draft is from Chicago?(Rose)
Brb Chicago gets 1st pick

What a coincidence!!!
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Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#8
#8
Demarcus Cousins said:
and then there's the 07 draft with portland, knowing they'd take oden over durant to replicate the epic mistake of taking sam bowie before jordan.
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Um, what?

Conspiracy theories are generaly just sloppy mental scribbles. Its a game really where you spend an inordinate amount of time playing 6 degrees of separation trying to figure out clever ways to explain random phenomena. Humans are particularly prone to that. Same way we ended up with angry storm gods tossing lightning bolts and killing people becuase they had offended them somehow. The truth of wrong place wrong time was just too scary.
 
Spike

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#9
#9
Demarcus Cousins said:
Oh, the best player in the draft is from Ohio?(Lebron)
Brb Cleveland gets 1st pick

Oh, the best player in the draft is from Chicago?(Rose)
Brb Chicago gets 1st pick

What a coincidence!!!
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And yet Kahn keeps getting draft picks to mess up - Stern has a quirky sense of humor as well. You may be on to something.
 
Gary

Gary

All-Star
#15
#15
Vlade4GM said:
The 2006 draft was supposed to be weak too, and yet it still produced Bargnani, Aldridge, Roy, Gay, Rondo, and Millsap.
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It's still considered weak even with those players. The moral is that pick 7 can be just as good as pick 1 in a weak draft. The players listed in your post prove it.
 
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kingsboi

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#18
#18
Every year the same question comes up and I have to admit, I find myself asking myself the same type of question every lottery day. Is it a conspiracy because when you look at some of the lottery winners and there chances you can't help but to scratch your head and say WTF.
 
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mr. moustache

Bench
#19
#19
Face it. The league is totally rigged. How else can you explain San Antonio in the finals so many times, Cleveland getting Lebron and this #1 pick. Throw LA getting swept this year and I'm done with it. It's no better than the WWE.
 
Gary

Gary

All-Star
#21
#21
Vlade4GM said:
And how does it prove that we shouldn't care about it?
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It's not that important if we had 5th or 7th.. It isn't like a few years back when a one pick difference was the difference between Noah and Hawes or anything.

Just saying that I know some people in here would be stoked with the 4th pick which isn't much different from the 7th.. I don't mind being 7th this year.. Because I want to see Thorton starting with Evans for a season and see how it works. Rather than Irving or whatever.

I want HAMILTON! :)

Go take a look at Jordan Hamilton, check out his sweet shot, and look how fast his release is on catch and shoot situations.. That's what we were missing last year imo.. Too many people that would hold the ball and try to create that way.. We have a chance to get a catch and shoot SF.. I say GO 4 IT!
 
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Livinthedream

All-Star
#22
#22
Gary said:
It's not that important if we had 5th or 7th.. It isn't like a few years back when a one pick difference was the difference between Noah and Hawes or anything.

Just saying that I know some people in here would be stoked with the 4th pick which isn't much different from the 7th.. I don't mind being 7th this year.. Because I want to see Thorton starting with Evans for a season and see how it works. Rather than Irving or whatever.

I want HAMILTON! :)
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I agree that it really doesn't matter between the 5th or 7th this year.

I'm wondering what's worse at this point. Not having a lottery and teams possibly tanking to get the top pick, or having the lottery and a team that deserve that 1st pick having it taken away from them in a game of chance. I understand why the lottery came about, but it just gives people one more thing to use to accuse the NBA of being a fixed league. Take away guaranteed contracts and teams would be less likely to tank because the players are playing for their spot on the team at all times.
 
Vlade4GM

Vlade4GM

All-Star
#23
#23
Gary said:
It's not that important if we had 5th or 7th.. It isn't like a few years back when a one pick difference was the difference between Noah and Hawes or anything.

Just saying that I know some people in here would be stoked with the 4th pick which isn't much different from the 7th.. I don't mind being 7th this year.. Because I want to see Thorton starting with Evans for a season and see how it works. Rather than Irving or whatever.

I want HAMILTON! :)

Go take a look at Jordan Hamilton, check out his sweet shot, and look how fast his release is on catch and shoot situations.. That's what we were missing last year imo.. Too many people that would hold the ball and try to create that way.. We have a chance to get a catch and shoot SF.. I say GO 4 IT!
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Okay, I misunderstood your point.

Catch and shoot forwards are a dime. We could get that with Shawne Williams. Hamilton is not that great of an athlete, and he does not have much of an off the dribble game. I don't want to waste the 7th pick on him, I'd much rather go with Burks, or Leonard. Shooting is the easiest skill to learn.
 
RookieOfTheDay

RookieOfTheDay

Starter
#24
#24
mr. moustache said:
Face it. The league is totally rigged. How else can you explain San Antonio in the finals so many times, Cleveland getting Lebron and this #1 pick. Throw LA getting swept this year and I'm done with it. It's no better than the WWE.
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I think you're on to something. The Spurs being in the finals so many times was all part of Stern's diabolical plot to lose money by putting the smallest market team in the league in the finals.
 
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Arkitect

Starter
#25
#25
kingsboi said:
Every year the same question comes up and I have to admit, I find myself asking myself the same type of question every lottery day. Is it a conspiracy because when you look at some of the lottery winners and there chances you can't help but to scratch your head and say WTF.
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If you really understand probability, then conspiracies are not needed.
 
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JB_kings

Starter
#26
#26
The current system is not rigged. No chance of that. They have a room with reps from all the lottery teams watching it happen. They don't show it on TV because it's very boring and dramaless to watch. What they do have is a system where it's very unlikely that the teams will fall into line from worst record to best record in order.

I personally think it's unfair for teams that just miss the payoffs to have a chance at those top 3 spots. But where do you cut them off at? 10... 7...

I did say the current system was not rigged. Go back to the 1985 Ewing draft and there is more than a little suspicion about the way that one was done.
 
Vlade4GM

Vlade4GM

All-Star
#27
#27
JB_kings said:
The current system is not rigged. No chance of that. They have a room with reps from all the lottery teams watching it happen. They don't show it on TV because it's very boring and dramaless to watch. What they do have is a system where it's very unlikely that the teams will fall into line from worst record to best record in order.

I personally think it's unfair for teams that just miss the payoffs to have a chance at those top 3 spots. But where do you cut them off at? 10... 7...

I did say the current system was not rigged. Go back to the 1985 Ewing draft and there is more than a little suspicion about the way that one was done.
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There's no evidence that the Ewing draft was fixed either.
 
est.1999

est.1999

Starter
#28
#28
It ain't rigged people.

The Ewing one was pretty wishy washy though. There's no evidence that OJ did it either. Can't always look at things and needing evidence. Sometimes common sense works, too. ;)
 
Capt. Factorial

Capt. Factorial

trifolium contra tempestatem subrigere certum est
Staff member
#29
#29
Vlade4GM said:
There's no evidence that the Ewing draft was fixed either.
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No, there isn't. And I'm not saying it was - I certainly don't know, and I'm not invested enough to take a hard line stance. But the difference is that with the Ewing draft, you can actually see a logical, simple way in which it could have been rigged. Not so much for ping-pong ball machine drafts.
 
Vlade4GM

Vlade4GM

All-Star
#30
#30
est.1999 said:
It ain't rigged people.

The Ewing one was pretty wishy washy though. There's no evidence that OJ did it either. Can't always look at things and needing evidence. Sometimes common sense works, too. ;)
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How does common sense work with the theory of relativity, or quantum mechanics? Of course things can be true even if there is no evidence for it, but that doesn't mean we should believe it's true. There's far more BS in this world than there is truth, and the only way to be sure of the truth, is to be skeptical and evaluate the evidence, or else you're just shooting in the dark.
 
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