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this is horse crap.

I went to college with this guy. He's only like 22. He would have been better served to stay a few more years in college and develop his game. But he has some serious potential. Put in the right system, with the right support, he could be a serviceable big-man in a few years. If he puts in...

I was talking about the blanket attitude in general, and I was using parking as one example of the ways you can shoot yourself in the foot with poor planning. Perhaps these things were discussed at the meeting. I wouldn't know, as I don't live in Sacramento anymore. I'm just going by what I...

I wouldn't be so cavalier about that. If you put an arena downtown, and surround it with a sea of parking, then you can effectively kill the urban experience that your trying to create. You can't just jump to the conclusion that it'll work. There are too many case studies that show that it...

I think you're 100% right about the "more moving parts, the harder the project" point. I agree with that, and on that note, this study accomplishes exactly what it set out to do. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, either. And you're probably right about the city being in control of...

Yes, actually, we did. Sounds absurd, but its both a sign of the times and a pretty common occurrence when you are working for/designing for local governments. The project I worked on was for an international airport, and it was a competition, so we may have done all of that work for nothing...

Well, I gotta say, I'm pretty underwhelmed. The design seems to be pretty cookie-cutter. And the pages in the report (pages 16-17) don't really show much rigor into the decision to build downtown vs at natomas. While I personally think they should build downtown, throwing an image with the...

To add to this: Sacramento only needs to propose a deal that is similar to that already implemented in other NBA cities, meaning that the Maloof's desire to have huge parking spots/control of non-NBA revenue, etc are pretty much moot. Sacramento only needs to point to another city and emulate...

KJ needs to get an arena done on his terms. Go forward with the arena plan without consulting the Maloofs. Go forward as if you do not have a team. Then, when it is built, offer them to pay rent to the city on fair terms. Have the city be the managing group (or hire an independent group to...

I agree with this 100%. Stern is looking out for that bottom line. As long as owners aren't footing the bill for new arenas, the NBA has one less line item (and it is a huge one) that they need to take care of in-house. This, of course, is hundreds of millions of dollars that the NBA and the...

Yeah, kings stay in Sac. Sorry, I thought that was implied. It would be a pretty cruel dream if all that happened and they still left.

I wrote this in another thread, but I'm starting to get my hopes up: Here's my dream scenario: The Maloofs still refuse to sell and want to move the team because they don't like the terms involved in getting the arena done. This, of course, angers commissioner Stern, who leads an effort to...

^yeah, but to look at only one decision and then ignore the rest undermines the point of looking at their body of work.

I'd say this is a pretty succinct summary. I'm firmly on the left, and I support growth and development, but I have a hard time backing a tax increase that increases parking downtown and discourages density and growth. I'm also of the opinion that whoever foots the bigger portion of the bill...

Uhh, yeah, I have a hard time believing the Maloofs are anything more than mickey-mouse businessmen. How anyone can look at their entire body of work and think that they're smart entrepreneurs is beyond me.

No, what I am asking is, what if they don't agree to sign a new lease, and simultaneously refuse to sell the team?

It is odd that the Maloofs planted the seeds for their own irrelevance, and I agree with most of your points about how the power has shifted. The Maloofs initially thought they held all the cards and used that to have unrealistic demands on a public/private investment on a new arena. Now, the...

And this is exactly why beggars can't be choosers. If the Maloofs wanted a huge parking garage and isolation, then they need to buy the requisite land and pay for the damn thing themselves. If, however, the public is expected to foot 75% of the bill, then the public needs to design a building...

And its solely the politicians responsibility to get an arena done? Gee, you think it might have been easier to do if the owners of the team were at least willing to meet them halfway to work out a reasonable plan?

Politicians? Back-stabbing each other for their own political gain? WELL I NEVER?! You act as if that is somehow exclusive to Sacramento. And class warfare? Just about every city has some level of class warfare. The only ones that don't are cities whose voting blocks only consist of one...