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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    KJ let something slip in his press conference the other day. Watch the end of the video....."We can't wait to be playing them (Seattle) in the 2015-16 season" The look on his face says it all. Telling you all, Seattle is getting an expansion team...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    You're right, a litigation case is not your problem. But people have brought up lawsuits in other threads so I was just bringing up why Hansen/Ballmer would be motivated to file a lawsuit. I don't have any purpose here, I merely am discussing this with you all because I get a better perspective.
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Read my previous posts
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Lol its already corrupt! Its been corrupt for a very, very long time. Maloofs aren't the first bad owners and certainly aren't the last. Shinn had a high profile sexual harassment lawsuit slapped on him back in the 1990s. Bennett/McClendon pillaged the Sonics, not to mention McClendon...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    There is a big difference from a bid being rejected, and a signed and agreed sale being rejected. You're right, Ellison has had his bids turned down but Ellison never got past that point, he never actually had a sale get rejected. Owners have never voted down a sale.
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Ballmer is worth $15 billion, you don't think he could pay for his Microsoft lawyers out of his own pocket? And even if Ballmer doesn't sue the league, I still don't believe the NBA will bring basketball back to Seattle for another decade, and how would they? So what is there to lose? Unless...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Listen all I'm saying is the ultimate outcome is still up in the air, nothing has been set in stone, all we know is that the league wants the Kings in Sacramento. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong here, but all I"m saying is owners are voting against their own business interests to vote down the...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    The NBA won't discuss expansion though, Seattle absolutely 100% deserves expansion, except the league is using Seattle to leverage its other cities, which is not right. Which is why I hope Ballmer uses possible litigation to force expansion. Even if everyone here believes there is no case that...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Yes but the NBA chose to orchestrate this secondary offer before that original offer was handled. Its manipulating the market, this is a free market society (or at least has to have the impression its a free market society). The NBA could have waited to reject the Seattle offer first, but that...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    The NBA is free to reject whomever they want. I'm not disputing that. What I'm talking about is that there was a signed deal that was just waiting to be approved, and the NBA orchestrated a secondary deal undermining the original deal prior to that original deal being rejected. If Hansen &...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    We'll see maybe they do maybe they dont. The only certainty is that you guys have your team in Sacramento, the only question is who will own it.
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    How is that crap? Like I said, I'm trying to talk through the reality of this whole ordeal intelligently with you all. The league isn't moving the Kings first off, they already voted against that. So if you find it hurtful that another person owns the Kings in YOUR city I'm sorry. This is a...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Here's where its messy though, Maloofs own the Kings, its theirs, its not the NBA's. They are free to sell their asset to whoever they wish. The NBA orchestrated another offer that undermined a PSA that was signed by the two parties, and the finalization of the deal means is protected by law. So...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    The only thing I'm acknowledging is that its an immensely complicated ordeal. Hansen has the legal right to PURCHASE the Kings, that is backed by US law, even if he doesn't have the legal right to relocate the team. The framework to reject the Hansen sale is a legal gray area given he has a PSA...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    I've come on here before and have clearly made my position from day one that I hope to have an expansion team. I understand your emotion, and my posts aren't pushing for relocation. I'm merely trying to have an intelligent discussion. Technically speaking, no votes have been accounted for, so...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    I've read US courts don't recognize signing away anti-trust lawsuit rights.
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Okay first off we're discussing what may or may not happen in this case. You're talking in a world of certainties, I'm just laying out scenarios. You don't know the outcome of this anymore than I do. Even Kevin Johnson said this process wasn't over. The facts in this situation though are that...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    But look around the league, there are no available teams at this moment. And it makes no sense for Ballmer & Hansen to sink $100 million into this project to sit on their hands and wait. The only course from here is to leverage the NBA into an expansion team, which is what people in Seattle...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    Yeah but its not the same as Bennett in the sense that Hansen has already shown his hand. At this point the NBA is not going to relocate the Kings, now its all about how much does Hansen/Ballmer want to set themselves up for expansion. I don't envision the owners rejecting a higher valuation, if...
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    A Sonics fan's point of view

    I'm not saying Seattle is on par with New York or LA, however I will say the demand for Seattle sports brands has a much larger market than just Puget Sound. I grew up in Spokane, 2nd largets city in the state of Washington, and I can attest that the Sonics had strong statewide support...