De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks

Didn't we use picks and players we got back in the Fox trade to make the Jonas and LaRavia deals?

I don't understand how anyone can justify keeping Mike Brown on after our start if he wasn't willing to make some changes to his assistant staff.
It seems odd that one of the assistant staff was directed to be fired and yet the Kings still have the same assistant staff under the new coach. Something is amiss in the report, or the logic, or the reality, or the purpose, or ...(who knows).
 

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It seems odd that one of the assistant staff was directed to be fired and yet the Kings still have the same assistant staff under the new coach. Something is amiss in the report, or the logic, or the reality, or the purpose, or ...(who knows).
All we have is speculation based around a leak that probably came from Fox's camp that it was Luke Loucks or Jay Triano, the "defensive coordinator" or the associate head coach. Both make sense to have been on the hot seat. I can see if it was Luke that they would think maybe Doug would have moved into that D-coordinator role and by making him head coach it would produce the same result? It's also slightly hard to see the wisdom in firing Triano - an experienced head coach - while making Doug a first time head coach.

I have a feeling if Doug is retained that one or both may not be back next year.
 
It remains unusual for a new head coach, even an interim, to retain a previous coach's assistants. Especially so when the head coach was chosen over those two assistants who were higher on the organization chart. There is likely some underlying, and natural, resentment.

Additionally, the play is eerily familiar to what was seen by the fired coach. The fresh approach by the new coach should be supported by a fresh set of assistants that will present a united front. I would favor letting the two assistants go now, regardless of their credentials.
 

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Didn't we use picks and players we got back in the Fox trade to make the Jonas and LaRavia deals?

I don't understand how anyone can justify keeping Mike Brown on after our start if he wasn't willing to make some changes to his assistant staff.
The Valanciunas trade included one of our own second round picks, a conditional 2nd round pick from the Nuggets (that was acquired in the Fox trade) and Sidy Cissoko who the Wizards promptly waived. Surely there would have been cheaper ways to acquire 1 conditional second round pick.

Our part in the bigger Marcus Smart trade where we got back LaRavia was to send Alex Len and Colby Jones to Washington and one of our own second round picks to Memphis.
 
It may have been the last straw from a DeAaron publicity perspective, but it just seems all too likely he was gone regardless. Maybe he would have been a happy camper throughout the rest of this year, but seems highly likely he reiterates again at the end of the season that he's not signing the extension and we move him then (with the same public messaging that the Spurs are his desired destination).
I agree but that is as much an indictment of Monte as Fox. Monte should have acted much sooner.
 

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The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.
 
The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.
Yeah, no matter how you sliced this whole Fox saga, no one side would've ever come out of it a clear winner over the other.
 
It remains unusual for a new head coach, even an interim, to retain a previous coach's assistants. Especially so when the head coach was chosen over those two assistants who were higher on the organization chart. There is likely some underlying, and natural, resentment.

Additionally, the play is eerily familiar to what was seen by the fired coach. The fresh approach by the new coach should be supported by a fresh set of assistants that will present a united front. I would favor letting the two assistants go now, regardless of their credentials.
That may still happen, but it would seem difficult to get good assistant coaches in the middle of the season. Especially coaches that would be familiar with your players.

I expect there will be some turnover in the assistant coaching staff this summer, if DC is retained.
 
Didn't we use picks and players we got back in the Fox trade to make the Jonas and LaRavia deals?

I don't understand how anyone can justify keeping Mike Brown on after our start if he wasn't willing to make some changes to his assistant staff.
Mike Brown lost his job because the team kept losing. Sorry to patronize everyone by stating the obvious.
 
The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.
It would have depended on who and what the return was. A really good or great return would have resulted in a really good reaction from many
 
The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.
If you are more worried about PR than making the correct strategic move get a new job. It’s exactly that kind of thinking that prevented them from making the Barnes trade.
 

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If you are more worried about PR than making the correct strategic move get a new job. It’s exactly that kind of thinking that prevented them from making the Barnes trade.
If they shipped him before the start of the season it would go beyond the bad fan PR - which would be on par with Luka in Dallas situation right now - it would damage relationship with players and agents because the implication they cost Fox shot at the super max (which again looms large in the Luka situation beyond the fan damage).

Nobody would have cared if Barnes was traded for picks lol. Seriously? These are not even in the same category.
 
Hopefully the toxic ones will stay over there and out of Bluesky. Generally a more positive vibe.
I would recommend detoxing and staying off all social media altogether. I’m only here and a couple other forums that are focused on topics I am passionate about. Even if blue sky is a kinder gentler twitter, I feel like my mental state is much better without the instant feedback/death scroll in my life.
 

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I would recommend detoxing and staying off all social media altogether. I’m only here and a couple other forums that are focused on topics I am passionate about. Even if blue sky is a kinder gentler twitter, I feel like my mental state is much better without the instant feedback/death scroll in my life.
Bluesky isn't a kinder gentler twitter but it doesn't seem to force an algorithm on you so you can curate your own feed that avoids the insanity that ruined twitter. Problem is the content isn't there.
 
Bluesky isn't a kinder gentler twitter but it doesn't seem to force an algorithm on you so you can curate your own feed that avoids the insanity that ruined twitter. Problem is the content isn't there.
It's growing every day but you're right. The lack of drama and abundance of hate is also why a lot of people find it boring and don't add to the content, unfortunately. It's the same reason why the "Any questions" threads are always 2-3 pages while the crying and moaning threads often reach 60 lol