Metta World Peace

Ron Metta World Peace Tru Warior Artest


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#1
Well, Metta Whirled Peas just got amnestied by the Lakers......well, nevermind....ughhhh

EDIT: According to Carmichael Dave, who apparently just got off the phone with Ron, he is going to be amnestied by the Lakers and would entertain returning to the Kings. Hence the poll - VF21 9:52 p.m.
 
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#6
I don't know if he can play at all still but definitely one of my favorite kings of all time. That playoff run with him and Bonzi was great. I've never seen a team transform in the middle of the year like that. Love ron
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#9
And I was coming here with the MWP thing as a joke.

It really has reached the point where you're thinking sure...

But its also reached the point where we could create such a cluster **** that we lose a franchise center who leaves town shaking his head in disgust. MWP scares me for that reason. Hi Boogie, we really want you to be our franchise guy. Here's a new batch of chuckers to take your shots, and oh, how about a certifiable loon as the cherry! Have fun this season!

It would literally double my chances of getting behind this idea if we announced we had signed Cuz to that max extension this summer.
 

Entity

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#11
you never know Artest and Cousins might be 2 peas in a pod. Ron may say look dude you keep acting stupid you will end up like me. Nobody wants you then they pay your salary for you to leave.
 
#12
Metta isn't the crazy dude he was in his 20's(he is much more mellow these days, and is actually beloved by the media here in So Cal), he is still a very good defender and can hit the open 3 in spurts(meaning he will get super hot, then super cold), and he is still a load inside. As a last minute option for one year on the cheap, its not bad, especially if the Ellis signing goes through.
 
#13
And I was coming here with the MWP thing as a joke.

It really has reached the point where you're thinking sure...

But its also reached the point where we could create such a cluster **** that we lose a franchise center who leaves town shaking his head in disgust. MWP scares me for that reason. Hi Boogie, we really want you to be our franchise guy. Here's a new batch of chuckers to take your shots, and oh, how about a certifiable loon as the cherry! Have fun this season!

It would literally double my chances of getting behind this idea if we announced we had signed Cuz to that max extension this summer.
But man oh man if they clicked. Look out!
 

Capt. Factorial

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#15
Well, Metta Whirled Peas just got amnestied by the Lakers......well, nevermind....ughhhh

EDIT: According to Carmichael Dave, who apparently just got off the phone with Ron, he is going to be amnestied by the Lakers and would entertain returning to the Kings. Hence the poll - VF21 9:52 p.m.
Naturally, if we were to put in the winning waiver claim on him, he'd have little choice but to entertain returning. It's nice to know that he wouldn't be unhappy about it, though with Ron, I kinda figure there's some sort of loose-wire happy generator going on up there. Sometimes it seems to short-circuit with some disastrous results, but for the most part he's just gleefully bouncing around in his own world.

I haven't got any sort of feel for whether MWP would be a good signing or not. What he ought to be at this point in his career is a backup SF, a 12-15 mpg kind of guy who can keep up the defensive pressure and sometimes play crunch minutes when the matchups are working in his favor. It's just that (as with Sam Young) I'm not a huge fan of looking out for our backup SF before landing our primary. I would say that barring the departure of both Salmons and Outlaw, I don't see room on this team for two more backups in MWP and Young. We'd have to pick one at most.
 

hrdboild

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#17
I'm not violently opposed to the idea (see Ellis, Monta) but I don't think it makes a lot of sense either. Granted we are so desperate for even league average production at SF that a lot of frogs are going to start looking like princes but when you break this down, Ron Artest is not nearly the defender that he was when he was here before. His freakish combination of strength and quickness is mostly gone at this point and he can still muscle guys around but he's not able to chase them all over the perimeter too anymore. Add to that he's never been a very efficient offensive player. To this point in his career he peaked as a #2 option with us and Indiana, then slid down to being a solid #3 but he's on the tail end of even that type of production. That said, he's still clearly an upgrade over what we've had here and fits one idea of what we want to do (get better on defense) if not the big picture (high character guys, team chemistry, players who are hungry and humble).

The funny thing is, I actually would have been in favor of this idea two weeks ago. Because even if he has been a loose cannon at times, I like hard-nosed players that won't ever back down from anyone. And even if he's not the defensive monster that he once was, his attitude alone on that end is what you want rubbing off on a young team. He'll take more pride in locking you down than in getting his own points. With Evans/Cousins/McLemore in the lineup together you don't need scoring from anyone else in your starting lineup -- you need defense and hustle. Add a defensive specialist at PF too and you're a pretty well-rounded team with three young talents and some veteran presence. But with Tyreke gone you do need someone else to step up and be a go-to scorer. And with Vasquez and Landry expected to play key roles next season, I don't see that Artest's defense is going to make all that much difference. The expected ceiling for that group is so much lower that I start to question how adding two or three year rental vets is helping you to accomplish anything other than competing for that 8th playoff spot. It's a domino effect. Once we jumped the tracks from two young potential stars to one, we're in a whole different place now going forward.
 
#18
I'm leaning towards yes. If for no other reason, he is a better SF than anyone else on our roster. He would also provide something our roster needs. Defense, toughness, veteran and did I mention we need a SF?

If he's cheap, I say yes. If PDA can somehow get a better SF, then no.
 
#20
Why not? For me, this ALL depends on if we believe MWP and Cousins would not kill each other after the first practice. Otherwise, MWP would be a welcome addition. Physicality, decent defense, a decent spot-up 3.
 
#21
Why not? For me, this ALL depends on if we believe MWP and Cousins would not kill each other after the first practice. Otherwise, MWP would be a welcome addition. Physicality, decent defense, a decent spot-up 3.
Agreed. One a one year deal probably around 2M, I'd do it as a stop gap. Might actually give cuz a bodyguard type player he needs.
 
#22
Why not? rather have Metta for one year at a couple million than Kirilenko at $10 million for 4 years. Ron isn't the nutcase he once was, mellowed out a lot, he is still crazy but its a fun hilarious crazy now. Still tough as nails though on the court, i think Cousins would actually apreciate someone like Metta around.

PG:Vasquez/IT/McCallum
SG:Ellis/McLemore
SF:Metta/Salmons/Outlaw
PF:JT/Landry
C:Cousins

with a few other players mixed is actually is a decent lineup, probably a 35-40 win team if Malone gets them playing good defense, maybe an 8th seed if Cousins blows up.
 
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KingMilz

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#23
He could actually help take pressure off Cousins by being the "thug" on the team, more attention for negative stuff towards Metta and less towards Cousins might not be a bad thing, plus I really doubt many players would be willing to hand out hard fouls with both MWP and Cuz on the floor at the same time. He could help us if he comes in the right frame of mind no doubt.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#24
Wow I am amazed how many people think this may be a good idea. Why would you risk damaging your marque player by hooking him up with the nuttiest player since Rodman hung up his dress, just to get the last year or two out of a player in decline that at best could add 2-5 wins to the season. Sure Ron might help us move from worst record in the NB to 3rd or 4th form the bottom, but he could also ruin DMC. The two getting into it is LESS frightening than the idea of them hitting it off. I liked Ron when we had him, and he could help a lot of teams out, but not here, not now.
 
#25
Wow, I originally posted this because I thought it was mildly amusing with all the rumors as of late. NEVER thought people would want ol' Artest back. Unfortunately like most of the rest of the Lakers, I think he's just a mere shell of what he once was, although if he could be acquired for cheap, may not be a horrible idea after all. I'd still want another SF, though.
 
#26
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

We are rebuilding. Right now, we need to aim for high character guys who will create a pleasant locker room to be in. MWP is a disaster waiting to happen at any time. He is a living ticking time bomb. Malice at the Palace 2.0 is waiting to happen with this guy. I have heard, read, and been told as well that Monta Ellis is a disaster to happen, because of his attitude in the locker room. I do not want either of them on the Kings. Not right now. Please no. I beggeth upon you...
 
#28
Wow I am amazed how many people think this may be a good idea. Why would you risk damaging your marque player by hooking him up with the nuttiest player since Rodman hung up his dress, just to get the last year or two out of a player in decline that at best could add 2-5 wins to the season. Sure Ron might help us move from worst record in the NB to 3rd or 4th form the bottom, but he could also ruin DMC. The two getting into it is LESS frightening than the idea of them hitting it off. I liked Ron when we had him, and he could help a lot of teams out, but not here, not now.
Ron isn't a loose canon, cancer anymore. He is actually beloved here in So-Cal, basically all Laker Fans love him, even Kobe is upset he got amnestied. He is still crazy, but in a fun way. I watch Laker games all the time, and at $2 million or whatever he could go for, he is more than worth it, even at his age.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#29
Ron isn't a loose canon, cancer anymore. He is actually beloved here in So-Cal, basically all Laker Fans love him, even Kobe is upset he got amnestied. He is still crazy, but in a fun way. I watch Laker games all the time, and at $2 million or whatever he could go for, he is more than worth it, even at his age.
Tell that to Harden.
 

hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
Staff member
#30
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

We are rebuilding. Right now, we need to aim for high character guys who will create a pleasant locker room to be in. MWP is a disaster waiting to happen at any time. He is a living ticking time bomb. Malice at the Palace 2.0 is waiting to happen with this guy. I have heard, read, and been told as well that Monta Ellis is a disaster to happen, because of his attitude in the locker room. I do not want either of them on the Kings. Not right now. Please no. I beggeth upon you...
My initial reaction was the same, but then I thought about it a little more and I don't think he's the same volatile personality that he once was. Unlike Ellis, he no longer falls into the 'young and dumb' category of having too much to prove and not enough life experience to approach situations in their proper context. He's got his rings now, he's settled in as a bit player on a winning team. He'll still make decisions from time to time that make you scratch your head and wonder what he's thinking (the Harden incident being a prime example) but I always thought he was a good guy at heart, just occasionally misguided. And without the pressure of needing to be the man, there's less cause for him to assert himself in inappropriate ways. Expecting him to lead us anywhere but the middle of the road though is probably asking too much at this point in his career. And he's too old to be a foundational guy anyway on a team built around Cousins and McLemore.