Tyreke Evans offered Qualifying Offer making him a Restricted Free Agent
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That could be an incredible mistake if they're not willing to go over 7M per.
Huge mistake. This aint good.
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Same sources also say Evans wouldn't exactly be upset if he left Sacramento either. Wouldn't mind fresh start.
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CarmichaelDave Increases offer from what?The Qualifying offer?”
If competing team offers 4th year for example, that should do it
Not good at all. Stupid is how I'd classify it. Monumentally stupid.
Huge mistake. This aint good.
Carmichael Dave @CarmichaelDave 1m
Same sources also say Evans wouldn't exactly be upset if he left Sacramento either. Wouldn't mind fresh start.
Carmichael Dave @CarmichaelDave 1m
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CarmichaelDave Increases offer from what?The Qualifying offer?”If competing team offers 4th year for example, that should do it
Not good at all. Stupid is how I'd classify it. Monumentally stupid.
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it would be a huge mistake, indeed. yet it all sounds smoke-screeny to me. who are these "sources," exactly? by all accounts, tyreke evans wants to be here, and a guard of his caliber and with his ceiling can be expected to make $8-10 million per, easily. why extend him the QO at all if you're just gonna let him walk at the first offer he receives? he's certain to get at least a couple of bites, even as a restricted free agent. it'd be even worse to leak that info if this is true, as it becomes a simple formality that he'll walk if someone out there recognizes they can snag a talented young guard with all-star potential at less than what demar derozan received on the open market...
Wow, I'll just pretend I didn't read that. That's incredibly disappointing if true. I don't think anyone in this year's draft is as talented as Tyreke and we'll have to suffer through an epically bad season to get at best a 25% chance of taking Wiggins. That's not a rebuilding plan, that's investing in lottery tickets.
indeed. if they don't believe in tyreke, that's fine. but, at the end of the day, it's about the acquisition of assets in a small market. big spenders, these guys, if they're not willing to lock up a worthwhile asset they can't replace this offseason except with the uncertainty of a rookie on a cheap contract in a shallow draft...
it'd be one thing if the rumors were that the kings FO planned to let tyreke walk after $10 or $11 million. but to hear that they won't match beyond the QO? dear lord i hope it's either a flimsy rumor or a flat-out smoke screen, because you cannot bleed talent as a small market franchise when you haven't sniffed the playoffs in seven seasons. sign him to a decent contract now and trade him later if he's not in your long-term plans, but don't just let him walk for nothing!!
it'd be one thing if the rumors were that the kings FO planned to let tyreke walk after $10 or $11 million. but to hear that they won't match beyond the QO? dear lord i hope it's either a flimsy rumor or a flat-out smoke screen, because you cannot bleed talent as a small market franchise when you haven't sniffed the playoffs in seven seasons. sign him to a decent contract now and trade him later if he's not in your long-term plans, but don't just let him walk for nothing!!
Thing is, I don't know if I believe Dave on personnel matters. Historically, he has normally been wrong on those fronts and there is a 50% chance his source is Peaches with all the baggage and agendas that implies. But who knows in the new era. A few months ago Dave would have had an in with the new owners. And we don't know anything about D'Alessandro.
Just have to wait. Do find it monumentally hard to believe that we have any thought to Wiggins at all though. It would basically be impossible to emerge Cousins as a dominant big and still be bad enough to have any real shot at Wiggins. That sounds more like fan fantasy to me than anything, and Dave is a fan. Let's put it this way, we had a 6.3% chance of landing the first pick this year as the 7th seed. The Pistons (8th seed) had a 3.6% chance. The Wizards (9th seed) a 2.5% chance. Does that sound like anything a new and presumably intelligent group of owners is going to bank on? Staying just as bad, or to have any real chance getting worse? Does not compute.
Just have to wait. Do find it monumentally hard to believe that we have any thought to Wiggins at all though. It would basically be impossible to emerge Cousins as a dominant big and still be bad enough to have any real shot at Wiggins. That sounds more like fan fantasy to me than anything, and Dave is a fan. Let's put it this way, we had a 6.3% chance of landing the first pick this year as the 7th seed. The Pistons (8th seed) had a 3.6% chance. The Wizards (9th seed) a 2.5% chance. Does that sound like anything a new and presumably intelligent group of owners is going to bank on? Staying just as bad, or to have any real chance getting worse? Does not compute.
I don't believe this. Just an hour ago we get a retweet from Tyreke's brother that he is going to be a King for life and then a rumor from CD that we won't match an offer. That is very unbelievable for many reasons. Do they intend to go into next season with MT who makes $8 mil a year instead of Tyreke who they have made a qualifying offer of less? I don't believe this at all and although there will be some hysteria about this, let's wait a bit. Like a whole day. The draft will tell us a bit because they have to pick a guard if they aren't going to match an offer for Tyreke. IF!
Well, if you move Evans for nothing and replace him with someone from this year's draft, we may have an epically bad season. Then you have to wonder if Wiggins wants to be here, etc. etc.
I'm just guessing this is all pre-draft sausage. I guess it's the other side of the sword, you know, from not hearing about anything during free agency, to hearing just about anything. Twitter can be a good source of information, but it can also be a source of misinformation...
I'm not going to try to not get my knickers in a twist until I see what goes down.
I'm just guessing this is all pre-draft sausage. I guess it's the other side of the sword, you know, from not hearing about anything during free agency, to hearing just about anything. Twitter can be a good source of information, but it can also be a source of misinformation...
I'm not going to try to not get my knickers in a twist until I see what goes down.
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Pretty smart, if it is a smokescreen. Just have to match the first offer he signs, and if he signs something low and reasonable because the other team doesn't think we'll match, then we match! Risk, of course, is that Evans mentally moves on and isn't happy about having to return.
At this point, I'm just going to sit back and watch the offseason unfold.
At this point, I'm just going to sit back and watch the offseason unfold.
Too dumb to be true. The FO not believing in Evans is understandable, even though I don't share this view, but how in the hell are they going to surround Cousins with strong players and/or vets if they 1)are the Sacramento Kings, meaning that free agency is a no go 2)let your best trade asset not named Cousins go for nothing?
I'll say it a second time: too dumb to be true.
I'll say it a second time: too dumb to be true.
indeed. if they don't believe in tyreke, that's fine. but, at the end of the day, it's about the acquisition of assets in a small market. big spenders, these guys, if they're not willing to lock up a worthwhile asset they can't replace this offseason except with the uncertainty of a rookie on a cheap contract in a shallow draft...
it'd be one thing if the rumors were that the kings FO planned to let tyreke walk after $10 or $11 million. but to hear that they won't match beyond the QO? dear lord i hope it's either a flimsy rumor or a flat-out smoke screen, because you cannot bleed talent as a small market franchise when you haven't sniffed the playoffs in seven seasons. sign him to a decent contract now and trade him later if he's not in your long-term plans, but don't just let him walk for nothing!!
it'd be one thing if the rumors were that the kings FO planned to let tyreke walk after $10 or $11 million. but to hear that they won't match beyond the QO? dear lord i hope it's either a flimsy rumor or a flat-out smoke screen, because you cannot bleed talent as a small market franchise when you haven't sniffed the playoffs in seven seasons. sign him to a decent contract now and trade him later if he's not in your long-term plans, but don't just let him walk for nothing!!
And that more than likely to me would lead to Reke either considering what is out there this summer and preparing to leave, and as Brick has mentioned you don't want a key asset already picturing himself in another city with another team and coming back pissed off, or it would suggest Reke will be here next year, not happy about it, and plan on walking to just about anywhere else next off season. That's a big issue if true, you don't really get second chances. Your first offer to Reke tells him a lot about what you think of him and if it's even in the neighborhood of 3/21, that's more than playing with fire, it's basically playing with live grenades.
But CD really is just a glorified fan. He's been great for the community in keeping the Kings but it terms of anything relating to what happens on the court, the guy is an idiot.
Or maybe it's brilliant. If you say your going to match any offer then he will either get 0 offers or max type deals to test you. If you say you won't be matching then teams are more likely to offer deals around the qualifying offer. He he brings back the lower offer you can match it and just saved a bunch of cap space.
indeed. that's what i meant regarding it sounding smoke-screeny to me. if the strategy is to claim that you won't match in order to bring tyreke back next season on a good contract, then bravo to vivek/d'allesandro/etc for playing the game and coming out on top. but if the strategy is simply to let tyreke walk at the first offer he gets, then it's sheer FO stupidity that would rival what we'd seen from the old regime across the last seven seasons...
again, it doesn't even matter what anybody thinks of tyreke, his talent, or his ability to grow that talent further. at this stage of negotiation, it is simply about locking down an asset that this team cannot replace through other means. we're not los angeles, where free agents beat down your door and signed talents force trades to your city. it's sacramento, home to seven straight losing seasons...
nobody's beating down our door. nobody's forcing a trade to this team. and the kings have precious few assets with which to bring back quality talent via trade to begin with. as a new ownership group, new front office, and new coaching staff, you discover if tyreke is in your long-term plans as you go. if he's not, then you trade him down the road. but i absolutely do not find it an acceptable proposition to assume that the kings will find a replacement at least as talented as tyreke evans at #7. hell, even if the kings traded into the top 3, i don't see anybody they could take that would justify letting 'reke walk for nothing...
again, it doesn't even matter what anybody thinks of tyreke, his talent, or his ability to grow that talent further. at this stage of negotiation, it is simply about locking down an asset that this team cannot replace through other means. we're not los angeles, where free agents beat down your door and signed talents force trades to your city. it's sacramento, home to seven straight losing seasons...
nobody's beating down our door. nobody's forcing a trade to this team. and the kings have precious few assets with which to bring back quality talent via trade to begin with. as a new ownership group, new front office, and new coaching staff, you discover if tyreke is in your long-term plans as you go. if he's not, then you trade him down the road. but i absolutely do not find it an acceptable proposition to assume that the kings will find a replacement at least as talented as tyreke evans at #7. hell, even if the kings traded into the top 3, i don't see anybody they could take that would justify letting 'reke walk for nothing...
yeah, I'm with the people calling smoke-screen. have noted before that I believe that to be a central part of the new fo's strategy. maybe, it's real, but it sounds to stupid to be real. you could construct scenarios where you let Tyreke walk and draft Shabazz to quasi-take over for him, but it just seems too much a red herring for me to believe this. we should know more about this whole strategy thing after tomorrow's draft, until then, I'll remain optimistic.
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