What do you think about this idea for a new coach?

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Not how it works. The team is going to be sold to serious money, either in Seattle or in Nor Cal. They will want to make a splash, and hire a sure thing. There is a decent chance the franchise finally gets its second big name coach. Let's just hope its the Sacto Kings, not the Seattle Sonics.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#3
Not how it works. The team is going to be sold to serious money, either in Seattle or in Nor Cal. They will want to make a splash, and hire a sure thing. There is a decent chance the franchise finally gets its second big name coach. Let's just hope its the Sacto Kings, not the Seattle Sonics.
Jerry Sloan or Phil Jackson here we come.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#4
Jerry Sloan or Phil Jackson here we come.
Might be too old.

I was watching Gortat lobby for Stan Van Gundy wiht some interest though. Not because of Stan, but I still like the idea of JVG. He's an East Coast guy and could be Brooklyn bound after the season, but if his brother was out West, there was new big money, if Big Cuz kept his head on and looked like another great center for JVG, getting to coach against his brother in the same division...likely just a pipedream, but less pipey thna it was a month ago.
 
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Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#5
Might be too old.

I was watching Gortat lobby for Stan Van Gundy wiht some interest though. Not because of Stan, but I still like the idea of JVG. He's an East Coast guy and could be Brooklyn bound after the season, but if his brother was out here, there was new big money, if Big Cuz kept his head on and looked like another great center for JVG, getting to coach against his brother in the same division...likely just a pipedream, but less pipey thna it was a month ago.
Of course. I've been a fan of hiring Nate McMillan myself. (Completely ignoring Seattle ties).
 

Capt. Factorial

ceterum censeo delendum esse Argentum
Staff member
#6
Not how it works. The team is going to be sold to serious money, either in Seattle or in Nor Cal. They will want to make a splash, and hire a sure thing. There is a decent chance the franchise finally gets its second big name coach. Let's just hope its the Sacto Kings, not the Seattle Sonics.
I'm not entirely sure Brad Stevens isn't a big-name coach. After what he's done at Butler the last few years, he could basically name his price and coach at any college in the country not named Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Syracuse, or Louisville. That obviously doesn't guarantee he would be a great NBA coach. The other problem is that he has indicated a desire to stay with Butler and has reportedly turned down big suitors to stay there.

But if you don't follow college ball, I guess he's not a huge name. I see the suggestions above, and agree that Sloan/Jackson is probably not in the cards. Outside of those two and the Van Gundys, are there any big names out there for the taking?
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#7
The other guy I've always kinda pushed for is Tom Crean but that's probably just my irrational love of Harbaughs talking.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#8
I'm not entirely sure Brad Stevens isn't a big-name coach. After what he's done at Butler the last few years, he could basically name his price and coach at any college in the country not named Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Syracuse, or Louisville. That obviously doesn't guarantee he would be a great NBA coach. The other problem is that he has indicated a desire to stay with Butler and has reportedly turned down big suitors to stay there.

But if you don't follow college ball, I guess he's not a huge name. I see the suggestions above, and agree that Sloan/Jackson is probably not in the cards. Outside of those two and the Van Gundys, are there any big names out there for the taking?
McMillan. For that matter Gentry and Skiles and a whole slew of other 2nd tier guys.

It won't be a college guy thoguh, from a small program to boot? That would be a Maloof hire. A let's prove we are such insightful geniuses, oh, and hire the next Aurebach for minimum wage, move. Big money splashy owners are not likely to take such a risk.
 
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Glenn

Hall of Famer
#9
McMillan. for that matter Gentry and Skiles and a whole slew of other 2nd tier guys.

It won't be a college guy thoguh, from a small program to boot? That would be a Maloof hire. A let's proof we are such insightful geniuses, oh, and hire the next Aurebach for minimum wage, move. Big money splashy owners are not likely to take such a risk.
Any new ownership group would be foolish to hire someone no one except those in the basketball community has heard of. Sacramento will have the newest arena and needs a big name coach. It's the name that counts at this point and not the skill. So brick's mention of the 2nd tier group of NBA coaches seems to be the most reasonable. I doubt if a bigger name would come here.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#10
Any new ownership group would be foolish to hire someone no one except those in the basketball community has heard of. Sacramento will have the newest arena and needs a big name coach. It's the name that counts at this point and not the skill. So brick's mention of the 2nd tier group of NBA coaches seems to be the most reasonable. I doubt if a bigger name would come here.
Which means we'll wind up with Larry Brown.
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#12
Brad Stevens. As good an Xs and Os coach as anyone in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Stevens
I think it's a bad idea.

I do however think with new ownership, JVG is a great idea. McMillan too. Sloan as well if interested. New ownership and a new arena would make this job pretty attractive imo and getting a name coach more likely. You won't see me campaigning for another experiment, that's for sure.
 

Capt. Factorial

ceterum censeo delendum esse Argentum
Staff member
#13
It won't be a college guy thoguh, from a small program to boot? That would be a Maloof hire. A let's proof we are such insightful geniuses, oh, and hire the next Aurebach for minimum wage, move. Big money splashy owners are not likely to take such a risk.
I don't think Stevens would be a minimum-wage move. He has reportedly turned down 8 years, $21M from Illinois. If $2.6M/year isn't going to pry you away from your mid-major, then what is? 4M? 5M? 6M?

I can see the argument that his name isn't big enough for casual fans, but do Gentry and Skiles register that much stronger with the casuals? The college coach aspect probably doesn't help a case for Stevens either.

I'll say I doubt he's in play, but I'm with the OP on being intrigued with Stevens given what he has done with Butler.

If I had to guess, I'd put my money on a Van Gundy, though it's all a bit premature at this point. I'd like to make sure the team is here next year before worrying about who is going to coach it.
 
#14
McMillan. for that matter Gentry and Skiles and a whole slew of other 2nd tier guys.

It won't be a college guy thoguh, from a small program to boot? That would be a Maloof hire. A let's proof we are such insightful geniuses, oh, and hire the next Aurebach for minimum wage, move. Big money splashy owners are not likely to take such a risk.
I don't think Gentry or McMillan are second tier guys. I think they can take a team deep into the playoffs if talented enough.

Obviously I'm all for hiring either of them.

My worry with guys like Sloan or Phil is their age and the toll of the NBA season on them. It's okay if they're dealing with vet players that can keep things up for them, but a young team is a lot of constant work.
 
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LWP777

Guest
#17
My vote is on Elston Turner. He is LOONG overdue for a shot at a head coaching stint. I would love to see him back here.
I don't know....I've always wondered why he always gets passed up. I mean, there has to be a reason right? He seems very soft spoken and passive. Maybe just not the head coaching type. Great assistant but not a head coach.
 
#19
I still think Bob Macadoo would be a great choice. As a player he had the talent and skill set that Demarcus has, able to score 30 with 15 board regularly. He also played most of his career on bad teams and was part of the Buffalo Braves relocation fiasco, but also won a championship with the Lakers. He played in Europe until his 40s so knows about conditioning too. He has been an assistant with the Heat for 18 years, more experience with a winning program under Pat Riley, experience dealing with monster ego's like Shaq and the current Big 3, technical advisor for basketball movies and part of Sterns' outreach program to promote NBA in other countries.

Buffalo even made a song about him :D http://staffannouncer.com/blog/audio/mcadoo.mp3
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#20
I'm not entirely sure Brad Stevens isn't a big-name coach. After what he's done at Butler the last few years, he could basically name his price and coach at any college in the country not named Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Syracuse, or Louisville. That obviously doesn't guarantee he would be a great NBA coach. The other problem is that he has indicated a desire to stay with Butler and has reportedly turned down big suitors to stay there.

But if you don't follow college ball, I guess he's not a huge name. I see the suggestions above, and agree that Sloan/Jackson is probably not in the cards. Outside of those two and the Van Gundys, are there any big names out there for the taking?
Yeah, obviously I'm very familiar with Brad Stevens, who has done an amazing job at Butler. Butler is like the little Choo Choo train going up the hill saying "I think I can, I think I can". As you said, anyone that follows college BB knows of Stevens. The problem I have with college coaches moving to the Pro's is that its a difficult adjustment. Many have tried it with mixed results. Pitino, Calapari, and many other big named college coaches have tried and either failed, or just had fair results. Probably the most notable college coach that had success is Larry Brown.

Not saying it couldn't work, but I think it takes a special personality type to have success. Stevens does seem to be more of a players coach, than most college coaches. I agree with Bricky though, that new ownership is going to look to make a big splash. Not sure Stevens fits that bill to the average NBA fan.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#22
I don't know....I've always wondered why he always gets passed up. I mean, there has to be a reason right? He seems very soft spoken and passive. Maybe just not the head coaching type. Great assistant but not a head coach.
Well he was so soft spoken and passive that he got up and quit the Suns when they passed him over. Not defending him or promoting him, but I know the reason he got passed over with us. The Maloofs didn't want anything left from the Adelman era.
 
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LWP777

Guest
#23
Well he was so soft spoken and passive that he got up and quit the Suns when they passed him over. Not defending him or promoting him, but I know the reason he got passed over with us. The Maloofs didn't want anything left from the Adelman era.
Well you can't really blame him when they chose Lindsey Hunter over him. I didn't really get that pick at all but maybe he's a brilliant young head coach.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#25
Well you can't really blame him when they chose Lindsey Hunter over him. I didn't really get that pick at all but maybe he's a brilliant young head coach.
I tend to think the Suns are just mailing in the rest of this season, hoping for a lottery pick and then looking around to hire a quality coach. I think Lindsey Hunter is nothing more than a space filler.
 
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Seriously - of the names that were front-runners for the Kings coaching position over the past several years, who wouldn't have been a better choice than who they went with?

Could the Kings have possibly chosen worse than they have the past few coaches?
 
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Seriously - of the names that were front-runners for the Kings coaching position over the past several years, who wouldn't have been a better choice than who they went with?

Could the Kings have possibly chosen worse than they have the past few coaches?
Kurt Rambis? I think he was a possible choice at some point and that dude suuuuuucks as a coach.

(and yes, I realise that it was a rhetorical question. just sayin')