BREAKING: Stern says owners WILL NOT approve a potential Kings move to Anaheim

[Mike0476]

Well sure, now that Stern has come out with the strength of this statement. Had he not made this sort of statement this summer, I would argue it would have been very appropriate next season with the goal of sending a message to the NBA, other owners, and the Maloofs. Stern has just made that statement for Sac fans. Just like you're probably not going to see a lot of protests to legalize gay marriage outside the White House this year...the guy in office is already for it.

I still think holding off on all purchases that go directly to the Maloofs is appropriate. Starve them out while supporting the team.

I would rather take the high road as we always have at city council meetings.

It would not bother me if people did not park at ARCO Arena and instead walk from a near by restaurant.

It would not bother me if people did not buy merchandise from the team store.

It would not bother me if people did not buy food and drinks while at an event inside ARCO Arena.

I just hope to see a packed arena for any and all events. Or at least close to it. Something respectable.

 

[macadocious]

"Is the lottery rigged?" is not a loaded question. It allows for a "no" response that will clear you of guilt. Besides, it was probably asked in jest and Stern could have laughed it off. Aside from it being out of bounds to imply wife-beating, Stern was wrong to accuse Rome of using a loaded question because it wasn't one. But whatever. They'll get over it.

I think it went over your head. The question was not in jest, as Rome stated that it was a serious question.

As for the beating the wife comment. It is the classic example of a loaded question. If you answer no, it can be implied that you once did beat your wife and you have stopped. Stern was making a point, not saying Rome beat his wife.

 

[VF21]

I just hope to see a packed arena for any and all events. Or at least close to it. Something respectable.

I'm guessing you meant basketball-related event? I absolutely refuse to support any MS&E endeavor not associated with the Kings.

 

[Mike0476]

I'm guessing you meant basketball-related event? I absolutely refuse to support any MS&E endeavor not associated with the Kings.

Any and all events such as WWE, Disney on Ice, etc. It's not like they're getting other events at the old barn. Just going with the theme of #BiggerThanBasketball.

 

[VF21]

Any and all events such as WWE, Disney on Ice, etc. It's not like they're getting other events at the old barn. Just going with the theme of #BiggerThanBasketball.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about that, then. To me, #BiggerThanBasketball refers to the efforts for the downtown arena. I just cannot sanction giving any more money to the Maloofs than the occasional price of a ticket for a Kings game. I respect you and everything you do but I will not support anything (with the exception of Kings games) that the Maloofs do.

 

[kennadog]

I can't argue with your position, VF21. However, we are trying to get support for a new arena for all the events that could be held there. I don't want there to be an argument that nobody cares about other events, because nobody is going to them. Part of the whole provess is proving there is a demand in Sacramento for all kinds of arena-type events.

So I don't look at it as giving money to the Maloofs, even though that may be one result. I look at it as proving there really is a need for a new arena in Sacramento.

 

[kingjatt]

I can't argue with your position, VF21. However, we are trying to get support for a new arena for all the events that could be held there. I don't want there to be an argument that nobody cares about other events, because nobody is going to them. Part of the whole provess is proving there is a demand in Sacramento for all kinds of arena-type events.

So I don't look at it as giving money to the Maloofs, even though that may be one result. I look at it as proving there really is a need for a new arena in Sacramento.

unless drying them out and forcing them to sell is completely out of the picture i would proceed with caution as far as other events go. any more money in their pockets could be contributing to them staying here that much longer. they see alot more money off the other events (than typical nba owners) because they are the sole owners of the building/property.

to me an arena is secondary, i want to see the kings future in sacramento secured first and foremost, and right now the solution is to try an get rid of the magoofs and bring in an owner who is commited to sac and will fork over that 75 million to build a new complex. any extra money in their pockets, beyond the money spent to go to the games, that increases the chances of them hanging on to the franchise should not be given to them.

 

[hoops4kings]

If by this time NOT going to Arco held events shows a lack of commitment on Sacs part the so be it. Geez.

I think the years upon years of support speak volumes.

You can only give over your milk money to a bully for so long until you realize that it's never gonna end until you make a stand.

That's just my opinion. Go ahead and fill these jackasses pockets as long as you want.

 

[VF21]

I can't argue with your position, VF21. However, we are trying to get support for a new arena for all the events that could be held there. I don't want there to be an argument that nobody cares about other events, because nobody is going to them. Part of the whole provess is proving there is a demand in Sacramento for all kinds of arena-type events.

So I don't look at it as giving money to the Maloofs, even though that may be one result. I look at it as proving there really is a need for a new arena in Sacramento.

You know how much respect I have for you, Ron, Mike and everyone else involved in #FANS. There are two equally justifiable sides to this particular part of the issue, however. You have presented one - the idea that continuing to attend all MSE-related events at PBP proves there's a demand in Sacramento for all kinds of arena events. The other side, however, is equally compelling - the idea that continued high attendance at PBP for these non-basketball events reinforces the idea that PBP is good enough.

It's an incredibly thorny issue, which we've all known for a long time. I wish there were clear answers on how best to proceed. At this point, I do not want to do anything to negate the incredible efforts put forth by you and the other "activists" who have worked so hard. So, I will respectfully agree to disagree on this particular point and back out.

 

[kennadog]

No problem VF. I wasn't picking on you. I hope you know that. No one's been a more loyal Kings fan than you.

 

[TyFreak Evans]

You know how much respect I have for you, Ron, Mike and everyone else involved in #FANS. There are two equally justifiable sides to this particular part of the issue, however. You have presented one - the idea that continuing to attend all MSE-related events at PBP proves there's a demand in Sacramento for all kinds of arena events. The other side, however, is equally compelling - the idea that continued high attendance at PBP for these non-basketball events reinforces the idea that PBP is good enough.

It's an incredibly thorny issue, which we've all known for a long time. I wish there were clear answers on how best to proceed. At this point, I do not want to do anything to negate the incredible efforts put forth by you and the other "activists" who have worked so hard. So, I will respectfully agree to disagree on this particular point and back out.

VF21 and Kennadog....first, before I insert my 2+ cents, let me say that I have been an avid follower of the activities of this forum for many years, but just recently decided to join. And, throughout those years, I have thoroughly enjoyed reading both of your comments, and see the passion that both of you have for this team...

With that being said, I think both of you bring up good points, and I neither agree nor disagree with what either of you are saying.

Now, for my 2+ cents...

IMO, what needs to happen is for "those other events/promotions" to "step up" and say that they are bringing NONE OF THEIR EVENTS to Sacramento until the city can provide a better venue as a host. I honestly believe that this will put that hammer down on the city and FORCE them to strike an arena deal, no matter what. Can events be held at PBP, yes absolutely, they can. BUT, take for example the NCAA. They have already put their foot down and said they are not holding any more tournament games in Sacramento because the arena is what it is. If others take their lead and do the same thing, it might as well do the trick.

 

[kennadog]

The city isn't the problem. The city did step up and negotiated a plan with David Stern, who was authorized by the Maloofs to represent them. It's the Maloofs who screwed it up by backing out of the deal.

The city is now gearing up to see if the can do a new downtown arena without the Maloofs and the Kings as an anchor tenant, but that will be difficult.

Sacramento has already lost events, because the current arena sucks. The NCAA won't play basketball tournament games in it, because they find it unacceptable and a number of bigger acts pass up Sacramento now.

The big problem right now is the Maloofs. They just don't have enough money to help with an arena and not enough to have a competitive basketball team. They flat out need to sell. Which will be harder to do, if values on both the team and the arena go down. The less money they make, the lower the value and the less likely they can sell at a price that's more than the debt they owe.

It's just a mess.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Like I mentioned in another thread earlier today, don't be surprised if we start hearing about the Savage family(River Cats owners)as potential suitors for buying the Kings...if/when I find out anything more I'll post it.

 

[kennadog]

Like I mentioned in another thread earlier today, don't be surprised if we start hearing about the Savage family(River Cats owners)as potential suitors for buying the Kings...if/when I find out anything more I'll post it.

I am praying so hard for someone to save us from the Maloofs. Please, oh please!

 

[VF21]

Like I mentioned in another thread earlier today, don't be surprised if we start hearing about the Savage family(River Cats owners)as potential suitors for buying the Kings...if/when I find out anything more I'll post it.

If the Savage family becomes serious about the Kings, I will become a true and loyal Rivercats fan. And for anyone who has followed this forum for any period of time, I think you know my general feeling about baseball...

 

[Mike0476]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about that, then. To me, #BiggerThanBasketball refers to the efforts for the downtown arena. I just cannot sanction giving any more money to the Maloofs than the occasional price of a ticket for a Kings game. I respect you and everything you do but I will not support anything (with the exception of Kings games) that the Maloofs do.

It's all good so no worries.

 

[Livinthedream]

Like I mentioned in another thread earlier today, don't be surprised if we start hearing about the Savage family(River Cats owners)as potential suitors for buying the Kings...if/when I find out anything more I'll post it.

Are the Maloofs listening to the potential suitors?

But it's very good to know there is someone local who may be interested and already knows how to make money in this market with a sports team.