We've got at least another year with him:
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/smart_press_release_2012_03_05.html
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/smart_press_release_2012_03_05.html
Both over 6'6 so they have no hope in Smart's system. We used to point the finger and laugh out loud at Don Nelson as he kept trying his smallball philosophy and it kept failing when it mattered most. I guess its now karma that we are stuck with his clone. Slick talker yet just downright disturbing with his fettish of smallball and whacky rotations.
is this thread a joke? seriously OP what are you smoking, pass it my way! Smart has got Cuz under control and playing well (aside from tonight). Thats a BIG importance (if not the biggest importance) to this team, If CUZ is not happy or not playing well, the Kings arent playing well .
The Kings actually have some sort of identity for once, offensively & defensively. The Rookies are learning, Evans is expanding his game, and our bench is growing as a unit. Players look like they actually have roles.. No Smart's not the best coach, but he garners the respect of the team and they play hard for him. The trade-deadline is coming up, rotations are going to look little funky for awhile, I'm sure Smart is showcasing some players.
The reason he was playing smaller tonight against Denver was because of the Stretch SF/PF's they have. (Harrington, Galinari).. Our bigs couldnt handle them.
The Kings actually have some sort of identity for once, offensively & defensively. The Rookies are learning, Evans is expanding his game, and our bench is growing as a unit. Players look like they actually have roles.. No Smart's not the best coach, but he garners the respect of the team and they play hard for him. The trade-deadline is coming up, rotations are going to look little funky for awhile, I'm sure Smart is showcasing some players.
The reason he was playing smaller tonight against Denver was because of the Stretch SF/PF's they have. (Harrington, Galinari).. Our bigs couldnt handle them.
Our bigs weren't in. Did you not notice the 4 guard lineup throughout most of the game? It wasn't until the end that Karl got smart and put in the birdman and Faried to overpower our lineup. This team DID have an identity. Now you have Tyreke playing PF. Come on now. (Technically, he was probably the 5 since I think he's bigger than Hayes, but that's nitpicking.)
Of bigger concern to me is that Smart seems to have abandoned that said unit, rotation, and roles to chase after a few wins with smallball, and I'm worried as to what will happen cause it ain't working. IT was solid off the bench before being put into the starter's role. Maybe he was expected to score more? There was a little exchange between the two where Smart was yelling at him to pass the ball. Guess the honeymoon's over - boy do we need some home cookin' right about now. That's just one thing. It's a small thing, but a thing nonetheless.
I did like Hassan in the game. He's definitely trying, but he isn't ready for bigger minutes. As long as he's eased in with constant minutes (but not at the expense of DMC's minutes) then we'll hopefully continue to see progress. Jimmer didn't look too bad either out there with Evans.
I'm hoping this is just temporary madness, so I'll wait until the end of the year, but man, each game has me sharpening my pitchfork a little more knowing that this should be the year to solidify roles and identities, not switch them around in Westphalian manner.
Of bigger concern to me is that Smart seems to have abandoned that said unit, rotation, and roles to chase after a few wins with smallball, and I'm worried as to what will happen cause it ain't working. IT was solid off the bench before being put into the starter's role. Maybe he was expected to score more? There was a little exchange between the two where Smart was yelling at him to pass the ball. Guess the honeymoon's over - boy do we need some home cookin' right about now. That's just one thing. It's a small thing, but a thing nonetheless.
I did like Hassan in the game. He's definitely trying, but he isn't ready for bigger minutes. As long as he's eased in with constant minutes (but not at the expense of DMC's minutes) then we'll hopefully continue to see progress. Jimmer didn't look too bad either out there with Evans.
I'm hoping this is just temporary madness, so I'll wait until the end of the year, but man, each game has me sharpening my pitchfork a little more knowing that this should be the year to solidify roles and identities, not switch them around in Westphalian manner.
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It seems like unless your name is Rick Adelman, you've got no chance of being liked as the coach of the Sacramento Kings on these boards. Lets list all the positive things Smart has done since taking over the team:
1. They went from getting blown out just about every game to now being competitive in almost all their games, even against good opponents on the road.
2. He has the respect of DMC and we haven't seen any blowups from him since PW got fired.
3. DMC is playing at an All Star level since Smart took over
4. He is developing our other young core players. This is something we never saw from PW.
5. He's the first coach who had the balls to bench John Salmons
6. He's also the first coach to have the balls get Tyreke out of the PG position and try him at SG and SF. We're starting to see him learn how to play the SF position.
7. He's making Jimmer earn his minutes instead of giving him the keys to the city which is what PW and the Maloofs wanted to do.
8. He's figured out that Hickson, Outlaw, and other members of the bench are terrible.
The reason why everybody is always upset at his rotations is because no matter what he does, there will always be terrible players on the floor. Hickson, Greene, Hayes, Thompson, Garcia, Salmons, and Outlaw are marginal NBA players. It's impossible to have a perfect rotation with this roster. He's playing small ball because that's what they've been able to be competitive with.
1. They went from getting blown out just about every game to now being competitive in almost all their games, even against good opponents on the road.
2. He has the respect of DMC and we haven't seen any blowups from him since PW got fired.
3. DMC is playing at an All Star level since Smart took over
4. He is developing our other young core players. This is something we never saw from PW.
5. He's the first coach who had the balls to bench John Salmons
6. He's also the first coach to have the balls get Tyreke out of the PG position and try him at SG and SF. We're starting to see him learn how to play the SF position.
7. He's making Jimmer earn his minutes instead of giving him the keys to the city which is what PW and the Maloofs wanted to do.
8. He's figured out that Hickson, Outlaw, and other members of the bench are terrible.
The reason why everybody is always upset at his rotations is because no matter what he does, there will always be terrible players on the floor. Hickson, Greene, Hayes, Thompson, Garcia, Salmons, and Outlaw are marginal NBA players. It's impossible to have a perfect rotation with this roster. He's playing small ball because that's what they've been able to be competitive with.
Very well said. We're all arguing over crumbs because there is no steak. I've been frustrated with some of his substitutions, but sometimes there is a method to the madness. One example is keeping the bench in the game for a very long time at the end of the game. He may think he needs to send a signal (to play D) to the starting unit by doing this. Regardless, there are a lot more pluses than minuses.
Cousins was in foul trouble and playing terribly (3 turnovers in 3 straight possesions if i remember correctly) at one point.. JT couldnt guard Harrington or Gallo...Whiteside looked winded after 5 minutes... Big deal Keith played small ball for a little bit and almost got us the W against a team on a roll at home. Denver GOT LUCKY. thats it. It came down to a MT foul for the game. other then that it was ours.
So Smart abandoned a failed experiment of 3 years .. and now "It aint working" .. Well it wasnt working before either.... He was wise enough to realize If Reke is ever going to be a complete player he's got to learn how to do other stuff.. ad having some one else take the PG reigns will take that tension off Reke and let him focus more on those things.. even if it is just for now..I'm not the biggest Reke supporter here but you can see he is moving way better off the ball (The JT pass to him cutting in the post was a prime example). He's not going to be a SF forever..
Smart's showing confidence in IT, which is going to help his game tremendously, hes gonna be a big part of our future, so might as well get him as much burn now as possible in all differet situations too see what his role should really be on this squad. The whole team looks more confident with another playmaker out there. he's had a cuple bad games.. but hes a rookie, its expected, especially at point... 3 bad games dosent meen we should throw the other 6 great ones out the window like they were nothing. He'll bounce back i guarantee you.
This team still needs alot of pieces to be a winner, so alot of this IS prolly temporary. (Like Reke at SF).. Plus like I said the trade deadlines in a cuple weeks.. We are going too see crazy lineups.. Like Donte at PF, Cisco getting mad time..Salmons being more of a PG.. It looks to me like were showcasing our talent.
So Smart abandoned a failed experiment of 3 years .. and now "It aint working" .. Well it wasnt working before either.... He was wise enough to realize If Reke is ever going to be a complete player he's got to learn how to do other stuff.. ad having some one else take the PG reigns will take that tension off Reke and let him focus more on those things.. even if it is just for now..I'm not the biggest Reke supporter here but you can see he is moving way better off the ball (The JT pass to him cutting in the post was a prime example). He's not going to be a SF forever..
Smart's showing confidence in IT, which is going to help his game tremendously, hes gonna be a big part of our future, so might as well get him as much burn now as possible in all differet situations too see what his role should really be on this squad. The whole team looks more confident with another playmaker out there. he's had a cuple bad games.. but hes a rookie, its expected, especially at point... 3 bad games dosent meen we should throw the other 6 great ones out the window like they were nothing. He'll bounce back i guarantee you.
This team still needs alot of pieces to be a winner, so alot of this IS prolly temporary. (Like Reke at SF).. Plus like I said the trade deadlines in a cuple weeks.. We are going too see crazy lineups.. Like Donte at PF, Cisco getting mad time..Salmons being more of a PG.. It looks to me like were showcasing our talent.
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Trying to reason with the lynch mob is pretty useless. And likely some of them were around long enough to have created or agreed with a Fire Adelman thread. No coach would escape the mob. Two months after hiring Jerry Sloan they would be creating a Fire Sloan thread too... it just is the nature of fickle fans.
Bravo.
The reason everybody is upset is because the Kings aren't 25-5 and headed for the playoffs. The lack of instant gratification, even when it's fairly apparent a corner has finally been turned and the team is headed in the right direction, causes some fans to feel the need to find a scapegoat to blame for all the losses.
The reason everybody is upset is because the Kings aren't 25-5 and headed for the playoffs. The lack of instant gratification, even when it's fairly apparent a corner has finally been turned and the team is headed in the right direction, causes some fans to feel the need to find a scapegoat to blame for all the losses.
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And I will ask again...just what makes you (and all the others who are touting the same solution) so sure Jerry Sloan would even consider coming out of retirement to coach the Kings? Have I missed something like a press conference where Sloan has directly addressed this issue? Until/unless that happens, you can wish for Jerry Sloan as often as you like but it will probably have about as much success as my wishing for a pony when I was 7 years old. (For the record...no pony.)
This has been posted a few times, and at least one other article where Voisin seemed to confirm the same thing the same week.
Comparing it to wishing for a pony is a little derogatory, don't you think? Some who bring up Sloan have mentioned the articles along with apparent talks with the Maloofs both Amick and Voisin confirmed. I've posted this before. Glenn posted it last week in a game thread. We're not exactly pulling it out of our butt's here. Will it happen? Who knows. But if we have even a slight chance at a HOF coach, why are you surprised some fans would look into it and be at least a little hopeful?
In the Voison article she mentioned Sloan has thought about coming back to coaching, is intrigued by our young talent, prefers small towns, and his wife Tammy would not be opposed to living here. That's almost word for word.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/01/07/jerry.sloan/index.html
Comparing it to wishing for a pony is a little derogatory, don't you think? Some who bring up Sloan have mentioned the articles along with apparent talks with the Maloofs both Amick and Voisin confirmed. I've posted this before. Glenn posted it last week in a game thread. We're not exactly pulling it out of our butt's here. Will it happen? Who knows. But if we have even a slight chance at a HOF coach, why are you surprised some fans would look into it and be at least a little hopeful?
In the Voison article she mentioned Sloan has thought about coming back to coaching, is intrigued by our young talent, prefers small towns, and his wife Tammy would not be opposed to living here. That's almost word for word.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/01/07/jerry.sloan/index.html
Not nearly as bad as the ever-overly-exaggerated statement "The reason everybody is upset is because the Kings aren't 25-5 and headed for the playoffs."
That dismisses anyone who has an issue with Smart (regardless of how detailed and reasonable the complaint) as "impatient" and expecting the Kings to have been 25 and 5 (i.e. a delusional-type fanatic).
It's exactly comments like this that decrease the level of discourse, and I've been trying to point them out on here to make a difference.
That dismisses anyone who has an issue with Smart (regardless of how detailed and reasonable the complaint) as "impatient" and expecting the Kings to have been 25 and 5 (i.e. a delusional-type fanatic).
It's exactly comments like this that decrease the level of discourse, and I've been trying to point them out on here to make a difference.
rainmaker - Fiirst, there was nothing derogatory about my statement. I fail to see where comparing a wish for a HOF coach to a wish for a pony could even be remotely construed to be derogatory... but whatever.
As far as Voisin is concerned, I think you and others are reading way too much into her opinion. I hadn't seen the Amick article before, so I stand corrected in that regard. I do not, however, think either article is particularly overflowing in fact.
You have shown me an article, however, so I will cease and desist from future comments in that particular vein. I will still be incredibly skeptical about Jerry Sloan becoming a coach for the Kings for a variety of reasons, among them the cold hard fact that there will most likely be much juicier low-hanging fruit for him to choose from should he decide to return to the NBA.
One other comment? I may be the only Kings fan on the planet who isn't blinded by the brilliance of the aforementioned Jerry Sloan. I'd sooner have Phil Jackson.
As far as Voisin is concerned, I think you and others are reading way too much into her opinion. I hadn't seen the Amick article before, so I stand corrected in that regard. I do not, however, think either article is particularly overflowing in fact.
You have shown me an article, however, so I will cease and desist from future comments in that particular vein. I will still be incredibly skeptical about Jerry Sloan becoming a coach for the Kings for a variety of reasons, among them the cold hard fact that there will most likely be much juicier low-hanging fruit for him to choose from should he decide to return to the NBA.
One other comment? I may be the only Kings fan on the planet who isn't blinded by the brilliance of the aforementioned Jerry Sloan. I'd sooner have Phil Jackson.
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