the official countdown to the lotto thread

gunks

Hall of Famer
#37
I think that award goes to Chris Bosh.
That was true a couple seasons ago, but since joining the Heat it seems like Bosh is underrated these days. Dude KILLED Boozer tonight. But luckily Bulls still won!


Not that I'm a Bosh homer or anything. Heck, a year or so ago when there was that "trade for Bosh" thread going... I didnt want to give up JT for him (and that is why I'm not a GM :p )
 
#38
That was true a couple seasons ago, but since joining the Heat it seems like Bosh is underrated these days. Dude KILLED Boozer tonight. But luckily Bulls still won!


Not that I'm a Bosh homer or anything. Heck, a year or so ago when there was that "trade for Bosh" thread going... I didnt want to give up JT for him (and that is why I'm not a GM :p )
did he now? i didn't see the game but alot of pressure is on the front court players when you have to watch out for lebron or wade.
 
#39
I'm getting a little giddy waiting for the lottery. The last couple of years I really got my hopes up but this time I just have this gut feeling that we're getting lucky.

Oh and sactownkid, that was hilarious.
 
#46
I remember back 2 years ago, when the Kings had the worst record in the league, and people were trotting out statistics like "when you combine the statistics, actually 3rd 4th or 5th place teams have more (?) of a chance to get the 1st pick than the worst record team".
I can't find those statistics with a search.

I did find this post which shows the movement of draft picks/teams up to 2009:

Here's something I posted in another thread showing history:

Here's a 16yr history; Listed in order of how teams finished, and where they moved up from in the lottery...

2009
Sacramento
Washington
#1 - LA Clippers (Blake Griffin)
#3 - Oklahoma (James Harden)
Minnesota
#2 - Memphis (Hasheem Thabeet)
Golden State
New York
Toronto
Milwaukee
New Jersey
Charlotte
Indiana
Phoenix

2008
#2 - Miami (Michael Beasley)
Seattle
#3 - Minnesota(O.J. Mayo)
Memphis
New York
L.A. Clippers
Milwaukee
Charlotte
#1 - Chicago (Derrick Rose)
New Jersey
Indiana
Sacramento
Portland
Golden State

2007
Memphis
Boston
Milwaukee
#3 - Atlanta (Al Horford)
#2 - Seattle (Kevin Durant)
Minnesota
#1 - Portland (Greg Oden)
Charlotte
New York
Sacramento
Indiana
Philadelphia
New Orleans
Los Angeles

2006
Portland
#2 - New York (LaMarcus Aldridge *pick traded to Chicago)
#3 - Charlotte (Adam Morrison)
Atlanta
#1 - Toronto (Andrea Bargnani)
Minnesota
Boston
Houston
Golden State
Seattle
Orlando
NO/Okla. City
Philadelphia
Utah

2005
#2 - Atlanta (Marvin Williams)
New Orleans
Charlotte
Utah
#3 - Portland (Deron Williams *pick traded to Utah)
#1 - Milwaukee (Andrew Bogut)
Toronto
New York
Golden State
L.A. Lakers
Orlando
L.A. Clippers
Cleveland
Minnesota

2004
#1 - Orlando (Dwight Howard)
#3 - Chicago (Ben Gordon)
Washington
#2 - L.A. Clippers (Emeka Okafor *pick traded to Charlotte)
Atlanta
Phoenix
Toronto
Philadelphia
Cleveland
Golden State
Seattle
Portland
Utah

2003
#1 - Cleveland (LeBron James)
#3 - Denver (Carmelo Anthony)
Toronto
Miami
L.A. Clippers
#2 - Memphis (Darko Milicic *pick traded to Detroit)
Chicago
Atlanta
New York
Washington
Golden State
Seattle
Houston

2002
#3 - Golden State (Mile Dunleavy)
#2 - Chicago (Jay Williams)
Memphis
Denver
#1 - Houston (Yao Ming)
Cleveland
New York
Atlanta
Phoenix
Miami
Washington
L.A. Clippers
Milwaukee

2001
Chicago
Golden State
#1 - Washington (Kwame Brown)
Vancouver
#3 - Atlanta (Pau Gasol)
New Jersey
Cleveland
#2 - L.A. Clippers (Tyson Chandler)
Detroit
Boston
Denver
Seattle
Houston

2000
#3 - L.A. Clippers (Darius Miles)
Chicago
Orlando via G.S.
#2 - Vancouver (Stromile Swift)
Atlanta
Washington
#1 - New Jersey (Kenyon Martin)
Cleveland
Houston
Orlando via Denver
Boston
Dallas
Orlando

1999
#2 - Vancouver (Steve Francis)
L.A. Clippers
#1 - Chicago (Elton Brand)
Toronto via Denver
Minnesota via N.J.
Washington
Boston
Phoenix via Dallas
Golden State
Cleveland
Toronto
Seattle
#3 - Charlotte (Baron Davis)

1998
#3 - Denver (Raef LaFrentz)
Toronto
#1 - L.A. Clippers (Michael Olowokandi)
Golden State (Vince Carter *traded to Toronto for Antwan Jamison)
#2 - Vancouver (Mike Bibby)
Dallas
Sacramento
Philadelphia
Milwaukee
Boston
Detroit
Orlando
Washington
Note: Per their expansion agreements, Vancouver and Toronto cannot select first in the 1998 NBA Draft. In the event one of those teams wins the 1998 NBA Draft Lottery, that team will be entitled to the second selection in the 1998 NBA Draft.

1997
Vancouver
#3 - Boston (Chauncey Billups
#1 - San Antonio (Tim Duncan)
Denver
#2 - Philadelphia (Keith Van Horn)
Boston
New Jersey
Golden State
Toronto
Milwaukee
Sacramento
Indiana
Cleveland
Note: Per their expansion agreements, Vancouver and Toronto cannot select first in the 1997 or 1998 NBA Drafts. In the event one of those teams qualifies for and wins the 1997 NBA Draft Lottery, that team will be entitled to the second selection in the 1997 NBA Draft.

1996
#3 - Vancouver (Shareef Abdur-Rahim)
#1 - Philadelphia (Allen Iverson)
#2 - Toronto (Marcus Camby)
Milwaukee
Minnesota
Dallas
L.A. Clippers
New Jersey
Dallas
Denver
Golden State
Cleveland
Charlotte

1995
#2 - L.A. Clippers (Antonio McDyess *pick traded to Denver)
Washington
Minnesota
#3 - Philadelphia (Jerry Stackhouse)
#1 - Golden State (Joe Smith)
Detroit
New Jersey
Miami
Milwaukee
Dallas
Sacramento

1994
#2 - Dallas (Jason Kidd)
#3 - Detroit (Grant Hill)
Minnesota
#1 - Milwaukee (Glenn Robinson)
Washington
Philadelphia
L.A. Clippers
Sacramento
Boston
L.A. Lakers
Charlotte
 
#52
8.30 pm ET, which means 2.30 AM in Italy and 3.30 here in Israel and I can feel that we will pick between first and 8th... Yes, I have a very strong feeling. No better than first and no worse than 8th :)
 
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LWP777

Guest
#56
So we can get 1,2,3,5,6,7, or 8? At what point will we know if we're in the top 3? I need to know what to root for!
 

Capt. Factorial

ceterum censeo delendum esse Argentum
Staff member
#57
4:30 EST 7:30 PST on ESPN
The half-hour lottery show will be at 5:30 PDT, 8:30 EDT on ESPN. One hour earlier, there will be a one-hour NBA Countdown program, which may include some coverage of the pre-lottery events but will also include previews of the Mavs/Thunder game which starts after the lottery, etc.
 

Capt. Factorial

ceterum censeo delendum esse Argentum
Staff member
#58
So we can get 1,2,3,5,6,7, or 8? At what point will we know if we're in the top 3? I need to know what to root for!
If we are in fact in the top three, we most likely will not know until the #5 pick is announced. If the #5 pick is announced, and we haven't been called yet, we're top three. Additionally, if we haven't been called yet and the Wizards go at #7, or the Raptors go at #6, then we're in.

It can actually get pretty complicated. Just basically root for everybody to get their exact position up through #9, then root for "not Kings" 8-5. :)
 
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LWP777

Guest
#59
If we are in fact in the top three, we most likely will not know until the #5 pick is announced. If the #5 pick is announced, and we haven't been called yet, we're top three. Additionally, if we haven't been called yet and the Wizards go at #7, or the Raptors go at #6, then we're in.

It can actually get pretty complicated. Just basically root for everybody to get their exact position up through #9, then root for "not Kings" 8-5. :)
Gotcha. Thank you!
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#60
If we are in fact in the top three, we most likely will not know until the #5 pick is announced. If the #5 pick is announced, and we haven't been called yet, we're top three. Additionally, if we haven't been called yet and the Wizards go at #7, or the Raptors go at #6, then we're in.

It can actually get pretty complicated. Just basically root for everybody to get their exact position up through #9, then root for "not Kings" 8-5. :)
I didn't know it was down to a science. ;) Very good. I'll sleep until #9 and then shake out the cob webs and get nervous.