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pdxKingsFan

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#3
When the Sonics moved to OKC did all the OKC papers write about what a failure they'd be? How about the Hornets to NO or Grizz to Memphis? I guarantee there are cities right now that have arenas that would love the Kings and wouldn't have 75% or more of the journalists writing about what a lousy move that would be. The Maloofs really should think long and hard about this.
 
#4
Mark Whicker is a Ducks homer who is just nervous that his team is going to get tossed to the side. If they win, they'll be fine. If they don't, you'll definitely see a lot of fans switch over, especially if the Kings get good.

This article is pretty poorly written as well. Looks like something that he threw together in the middle of the night because the paper needed another column thrown in. Mentioning Pittsburgh as a possibility for the Maloofs shows just how out of the loop this guy is.

The end of the story pretty much says it all as to where his objectivity lays. He says something to the effect that the NHL is a good and the NBA is a bad league so his bias is obvious and lends less creedence to what he wrote in the first place. It may explain why he mentions Pittsburgh, an NHL city, which all the more proves his bias. Typical, middle aged OC republican who thinks and wants everyone to think like he does and goes into a funk and writes biased opinions trying to sway people's opinions when he sees it possibly not going his way.
 
#5
When the Sonics moved to OKC did all the OKC papers write about what a failure they'd be? How about the Hornets to NO or Grizz to Memphis? I guarantee there are cities right now that have arenas that would love the Kings and wouldn't have 75% or more of the journalists writing about what a lousy move that would be. The Maloofs really should think long and hard about this.
That's an interesting angle. While my above post points out that this guy is not in the majority, you make a good point in that we didn't see articles like this from Memphis and OKC although there was a radio guy in New Orleans who was very much against competition for the Saints when the Hornets came to town. His name escapes me at this time but he was very outspoken about not wanting the Hornets in town to the point that people thought he was in Saint owner Tom Benson's pockets.
 
#6
He lost me with these two comments:

"There will be some who buy season tickets just for the two Lakers visits per season."

"This basketball team will severely test our boredom threshold."
 
#7
He lost me with these two comments:

"There will be some who buy season tickets just for the two Lakers visits per season."

"This basketball team will severely test our boredom threshold."
He's right. Tickets are really in demand for the extra home games they'll get. YOu can bet Jack Nicholson will want to be courtside rooting for his lakers. And LA gets bored with teams that don't A. have flashy players and B. teams that don't win.
 
#8
Well with the constant freeway traffic, at least Tyreke won't be able to open up the Benz over 100 mph. But if he does try, there will be about 6 news copters to follow his progress!
 
#9
He's right. Tickets are really in demand for the extra home games they'll get. YOu can bet Jack Nicholson will want to be courtside rooting for his lakers. And LA gets bored with teams that don't A. have flashy players and B. teams that don't win.
He's not right, because the lakers don't even sell out, so why would somebody buy seasons tickets for an anaheim team just to watch two laker "road" games there?

And as far as the kings, they won't be losing for long, and they have a pretty provocative player in Cousins.
 
#10
All these articles and comments from the peanut gallery in the media, no matter how they think about the move, is all water under the bridge at this point. Where he got my attention was the:

"Sacramento will be the same city with or without pro basketball, just as Seattle is."

Umm...no...BIG PHAT NO! Seattle's loss of the Supersonics made a specific group of people upset, but they got over it because they have the Seahawks and Mariners, plus 2 major college sports programs(WSU and UW) to fall back on. We as Sacramentans have NADA! River Cats?? Nope, not gonna do it!! The freaking Mountain Lions?? BIG Nope!! C'mon, these fish hacks need to REALLY look at what they're writing to get their facts straight before they run off at the mouth with comments like these.
 

Glenn

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#13
What I hate to say except I have been kind of saying it since last November when I returned to posting: Sacramento can't support a team. I'm not sure a new arena will make a big difference to the Kings. I think it would be great for the city but the city seems to think Kings/arena all as one entity. The major plus to the Kings about a new arena is that in the history of the NBA, every time a team gets a new arena, ticket prices jump quite a bit. That's a temporary fix.

This is the city that already lost a professinal basketball team that actually won a championship and it barely created a loud yawn. The Maloof owned Monarchs closed their doors. Now the Kings might leave. I think that a large part of the city will yawn. We are all upset. I'm upset but we aren't the voice of the city. I suspect a large part of this city simply doesn't care.

I think this is out of our hands unless there is some value in establishing who is to blame. That seems to be a huge topic on this forum. It won't sove any problem except it allows us to vent our anger at something.

I think there needs to be revenue sharing. The writing is on the wall for the whole NBA. If a move to LA actually works to the benefit of all three teams, more teams will be thinking of moving to larger markets. There are 12 million people in the LA area or so they claim. If that can support three teams then how many teams can the New York metropolitan area support? Four? How many can Chicago support? Two more. Three areas can support 1/3 of the league. I don't think that's what Stern had in mind.

David Stern wants to bring basketball to the world and all aroud the US but what might very well happen if the present plan goes forward is that basketball will contract and be located around large cities. The NBA could institute revenue sharing if they wished? Do they wish or will this pattern continue?
 
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#14
The Kings needed the Raiders all those years ago when they were supposed to come here.. As much as I hate the Raiders this wouldn't even be an argument if the Raiders were here.
 
#15
All these articles and comments from the peanut gallery in the media, no matter how they think about the move, is all water under the bridge at this point. Where he got my attention was the:

"Sacramento will be the same city with or without pro basketball, just as Seattle is."

Umm...no...BIG PHAT NO! Seattle's loss of the Supersonics made a specific group of people upset, but they got over it because they have the Seahawks and Mariners, plus 2 major college sports programs(WSU and UW) to fall back on. We as Sacramentans have NADA! River Cats?? Nope, not gonna do it!! The freaking Mountain Lions?? BIG Nope!! C'mon, these fish hacks need to REALLY look at what they're writing to get their facts straight before they run off at the mouth with comments like these.
Everybody should realize that up here in Seattle there is also a soccer team called the Sounders that got here right after the Sonics left. Soccer is a much more "Seattley" sport. They sell out every single game at about 35,000 a game at Qwest field. That's insane. And it beats the pants off any other soccer franshise. The team hasn't won the MLS cup yet, but they did win the second biggest tournament, something like the US open/nationals, a year long thing, two years in a row they've won that. Soccer up here is the third major league sport, easy.
 
#17
What I hate to say except I have been kind of saying it since last November when I returned to posting: Sacramento can't support a team. I'm not sure a new arena will make a big difference to the Kings. I think it would be great for the city but the city seems to think Kings/arena all as one entity. The major plus to the Kings about a new arena is that in the history of the NBA, every time a team gets a new arena, ticket prices jump quite a bit. That's a temporary fix.

This is the city that already lost a professinal basketball team that actually won a championship and it barely created a loud yawn. The Maloof owned Monarchs closed their doors. Now the Kings might leave. I think that a large part of the city will yawn. We are all upset. I'm upset but we aren't the voice of the city. I suspect a large part of this city simply doesn't care.

I think this is out of our hands unless there is some value in establishing who is to blame. That seems to be a huge topic on this forum. It won't sove any problem except it allows us to vent our anger at something.

I think there needs to be revenue sharing. The writing is on the wall for the whole NBA. If a move to LA actually works to the benefit of all three teams, more teams will be thinking of moving to larger markets. There are 12 million people in the LA area or so they claim. If that can support three teams then how many teams can the New York metropolitan area support? Four? How many can Chicago support? Two more. Three areas can support 1/3 of the league. I don't think that's what Stern had in mind.

David Stern wants to bring basketball to the world and all aroud the US but what might very well happen if the present plan goes forward is that basketball will contract and be located around large cities. The NBA could institute revenue sharing if they wished? Do they wish or will this pattern continue?
Actually, they have pretty much finished up the revenue sharing portion of collective bargaining. I don't know exactly how it will work but that seems to have been the easy part of the cba negotiations since it doesn't involve the players union.