Concussions and sports (split from 20/5/5 watch thread)
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I'm not a doctor but I'm quite sure that it isn't as simple as "a concussion is a concussion" because they have differing severity levels. Which is why I explicitly stated that as long as a doctor clears him to play I'm fine with him coming back whenever he feels ready.
But the other reason is that there is not a lengthy history of NBA players with long term brain damage from multiple concussions sustained throughout their career as there is in the NFL. In MMA if you get a concussion (or get knocked out) it is a mandatory 45 day suspension of your license. Maybe Tyreke should sit the season because that's what works in the UFC?
But the other reason is that there is not a lengthy history of NBA players with long term brain damage from multiple concussions sustained throughout their career as there is in the NFL. In MMA if you get a concussion (or get knocked out) it is a mandatory 45 day suspension of your license. Maybe Tyreke should sit the season because that's what works in the UFC?
Um, what? No, I wasn't referring to you. I was responding to the post immediately prior to my own - that of xrzn. And, as discussed above, concussions vary greatly; your assumption that they should all be treated the same is without basis in fact.
At this point, I'm going to spin this discussion off into the General thread since it seems to be headed in a different direction than the Evans 20/5/5 topic.
At this point, I'm going to spin this discussion off into the General thread since it seems to be headed in a different direction than the Evans 20/5/5 topic.
Just did a quick google on nba concussions.
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/01/27/celtics.scalabrine.ap/index.html?rss=true
Scalabrine is out indefinately after his 2nd concussion in 3 days.
Heres one from scott howard cooper about the NBA seeing an increase number on concussions
http://neurosurgery.ucla.edu/workfiles/In the news/Hovda[1].Sac.Bee.pdf
And like the NFL players hide them from the staff for years because they wanted to play or fear getting labeled with a medical problem. Same could of happened in the NBA and we are just now seeing it.
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/01/27/celtics.scalabrine.ap/index.html?rss=true
Scalabrine is out indefinately after his 2nd concussion in 3 days.
Heres one from scott howard cooper about the NBA seeing an increase number on concussions
http://neurosurgery.ucla.edu/workfiles/In the news/Hovda[1].Sac.Bee.pdf
And like the NFL players hide them from the staff for years because they wanted to play or fear getting labeled with a medical problem. Same could of happened in the NBA and we are just now seeing it.
Exactly, an extremely mild or slight concussion. He did not lose consciousness and didn't really seem wobbly as he walked to the bench with a towel to try and stop some minor mouth bleeding.
Concussions are graded medically on a scale of 1 (very mild) thru 5 (knocked out cold to include bleeding of brain tissue). I once suffered a level 1 and then 13 months later a terrible level 4 that included a couple broken facial bones. I learned that the various levels of concussions are highly noteworthy in treatment as are repeat incidents and time lines between any brain injury. As bad as my level 4 concussion was, it was worse because I'd had another one only about a year earlier. If the first one had been above level 1 it would have portended potentially much worse after second one. Later during some therapy I went through I learned that I'd likely suffered one or two other concussions at various times in my life, but because they were so slight I simply didn't realize it at the time.
Hopefully, this is the first concussion Tyreke's ever experienced and luckily it's quite mild. Here's wishing he never suffers another one or one that's above the minor Level 1.
Concussions are graded medically on a scale of 1 (very mild) thru 5 (knocked out cold to include bleeding of brain tissue). I once suffered a level 1 and then 13 months later a terrible level 4 that included a couple broken facial bones. I learned that the various levels of concussions are highly noteworthy in treatment as are repeat incidents and time lines between any brain injury. As bad as my level 4 concussion was, it was worse because I'd had another one only about a year earlier. If the first one had been above level 1 it would have portended potentially much worse after second one. Later during some therapy I went through I learned that I'd likely suffered one or two other concussions at various times in my life, but because they were so slight I simply didn't realize it at the time.
Hopefully, this is the first concussion Tyreke's ever experienced and luckily it's quite mild. Here's wishing he never suffers another one or one that's above the minor Level 1.
As more recent, thorough medical studies are concluding, concussions suffered in back-to-back incidents over a few months, few weeks (much less a few days), pose some serious health risks - like early onset Dementia, Parkinsons, etc. But a level 1 incident is not nearly as big a risk even if suffered in back-to-back fashion as having one or more of the higher levels mixed in. For example, most NFL players that voluntarily retire or are forced from the game due to concussion had multiple incidents over a season or couple of seasons and they were not usually mild Level 1's that ended their career - but Level 2-3. Try Googling the issue if really interested in understanding its complexities.
http://tbi.unl.edu/savedTBI/sports/grades.html (this link describes 3 common levels of concussion - others list up to 5 with highest levels generally in the realm of TBI, coma, etc.)
http://tbi.unl.edu/savedTBI/sports/grades.html (this link describes 3 common levels of concussion - others list up to 5 with highest levels generally in the realm of TBI, coma, etc.)
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I don't know if this helps the conversation at all, but I was with Tyreke and his brothers in the back and we had to keep explaining what had happened to him over and over again. He would say "What Happened?????" and then we showed him on the screen and then a few moments later he'd ask the same question. He seemed fine though when he got back to his house....
I've had 3 concussions within like 10 years time and now my memory is terrible. I first had a mild one, then the second one was pretty bad as I got elbowed right between the eyes. The second one I was totally unware of what was going on really. The kept me overnight in the hospital and I was a bit slow in the head for a couple months. Then the third one was from a car accident and it was fairly mild too. But after having all that head pounding my memory is shot.