I am glad he did it. We all knew but it is nice to hear it from him too. I also think that LaRussa was a major factor in that and it was a condition for his return.
I was a fan of Mac, may be not anymore but still I think he was/is a great player and should be elected to HOF.
If he would have come clean earlier I might still like him but he was kind of jerky in his denials. I mean Bonds denies it but he doesn't run around calling everyone else a cheater while proclaiming his innocence and I got that vibe from Mac even though he never outright called it like that.
I don't think he belongs in the hall clean or not though. Borderline case because his power was so huge but he struck out a ton, didn't particularly hit for average and basically completely one dimensional.
...he doesn't run around calling everyone else a cheater while proclaiming his innocence and I got that vibe from Mac even though he never outright called it like that.
Are you familiar with the expression "thumb ones nose"? I always got the impression Mac looked down at all those getting busted like he was better than them even though we all suspected him all along.
Bonds just seems to be an all around jerk so its a bit easier to accept that he is still a jerk.
If he would have come clean earlier I might still like him but he was kind of jerky in his denials. I mean Bonds denies it but he doesn't run around calling everyone else a cheater while proclaiming his innocence and I got that vibe from Mac even though he never outright called it like that.
I don't think he belongs in the hall clean or not though. Borderline case because his power was so huge but he struck out a ton, didn't particularly hit for average and basically completely one dimensional.
Yeah, he didn't deny it, but he certainly wasn't honest about it. Neither was anyone else, but the whole "he didn't lie about it" defense isn't going to cut it.
Are you familiar with the expression "thumb ones nose"? I always got the impression Mac looked down at all those getting busted like he was better than them even though we all suspected him all along.
Bonds just seems to be an all around jerk so its a bit easier to accept that he is still a jerk.
It was a cop-out, and totally wrong. That said, how he handled it was better then Bonds, ARod, Clemens, Pettite, Palmero, and countless unnamed others who got away with it (some of whom are probably in the hall even).
Whats sadly ironic is the only person who handled it the best was Jose Canseco. weird.
So now what? A do-over and a return to Roger Maris and 61 homers as the real record? Anybody have an over/under on whether or not Bonds will finally admit his involvement?
There is too much unkown to ever have a *real* record again. I mean, you had times when the mound was raised, times when the game was still segregated, etc... personally, I think there will always be a black cloud hanging over the game thanks to these guys. They brought our the questions everybody had on their mind.
Baseball is just one of every other sport in the world that is tainted PEDs. It has been that way for close to 40 years now.
I don't like it either, but I have pretty much accepted it as a part of elite athleticism and I do not think there is much that any of us can do to change it significantly.
I too have accepted it and its just further proof that comparing eras in sports is pointless. Every era has its dirty little secrets. I can't even bother with the "Tiger Woods laser eye surgery" talking point anymore because according to the Vanity Fair article I read last night even Tiger Woods is on the juice.
Some day when people are using bionic implants and athletes need to submit tissue samples we'll pine for the days when athletes only used steroids because at least they were human.
I too have accepted it and its just further proof that comparing eras in sports is pointless. Every era has its dirty little secrets. I can't even bother with the "Tiger Woods laser eye surgery" talking point anymore because according to the Vanity Fair article I read last night even Tiger Woods is on the juice.
Some day when people are using bionic implants and athletes need to submit tissue samples we'll pine for the days when athletes only used steroids because at least they were human.
Yeah, I think about bionics and the day is not far off. As far as I'm concerned, if you take the natural human being out of sports competition, why bother anymore? It won't be about pushing the natural boundaries of the human body and endurance anymore. Someday we can even have androids do everything physical for us, and we won't even need arms and legs anymore.