where would you rank tyreke
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are you serious? he's played less than 30 games... griffin hasnt played yet neither has he who shall remain nameless, so we dont even know where he ranks in his own draft class and you want to rank him over the past 10 drafts? with such a huge number of players in 10 drafts he wouldnt even be top 10...
We can't rank this class in the sense of ranking them 5 years from now. What we can do is rank what we know so far. And 27 games into this season Tyreke Evans has proven to be the top talent from the 2009 draft. He is having the greatest impact on his team as well. I base my opinion on his upside, his current talent, how fast he seems to learn, and his able to deal with adveristy and last second scenarios.
If Tyreke has a good work ethic which he has had thus far in his life, he is only limited by himself. Which means if he thinks he can do it, he can. If he thinks he cant' that will be the only reason why he won't. Mistakes you saw him making 20 games ago he does not make now, or makes sparingly. He has had 3 clutch performances in the last week, with I'm sure more to come. As far as dealing with adversity, ummm he was apart of a team with the biggest come back in this decade last night
If Tyreke has a good work ethic which he has had thus far in his life, he is only limited by himself. Which means if he thinks he can do it, he can. If he thinks he cant' that will be the only reason why he won't. Mistakes you saw him making 20 games ago he does not make now, or makes sparingly. He has had 3 clutch performances in the last week, with I'm sure more to come. As far as dealing with adversity, ummm he was apart of a team with the biggest come back in this decade last night
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you cant rank him or anyone from this years draft class because they havent played a full season and in some cases havent played a single game. even if you took the top 3 players(not draft order) from each draft he wouldnt be ranked in the top 10 because he hasnt played enough games.
top 3?
lebron
wade
bosh
carmelo
oh wait, thats just the 2003 draft. i dont care for blind homerism on other teams and i would be a hypocrite if i was okay with it on my team.
with that said, are you serious?
top 3?
lebron
wade
bosh
carmelo
oh wait, thats just the 2003 draft. i dont care for blind homerism on other teams and i would be a hypocrite if i was okay with it on my team.
with that said, are you serious?
Do you really believe that? If you don't know where he ranks in this draft class then I think you're the only one.
And no matter how good Rubio ends up, he'll probably never have the impact Evans is having right now simply because of Evans' ability to take over games during crunch time. It's finally nice having someone on this team thats able to do that, instead of seeing other teams superstars do that to the Kings over and over and over...
And no matter how good Rubio ends up, he'll probably never have the impact Evans is having right now simply because of Evans' ability to take over games during crunch time. It's finally nice having someone on this team thats able to do that, instead of seeing other teams superstars do that to the Kings over and over and over...
If youre going to pick players that were better picks in this decade then you have to judge the picks based on how they performed in the first half of their rookie seasons. There arent 10 guys that are better than tyreke on that list. Im tempted to say that only Carmelo and Lebron were better picks thus far.
Okay, here we go again...
You can respond and discuss without tossing out the insults right off the bat, no?
vikinginferno said pretty clearly that Evans is so far "putting up numbers as a rookie to put him in the top 10 draft picks of the decade." That's not blind homerism. You might disagree and probably most will, but he did not just come out and say "Tyreke Evans is the best rookie to ever play the game of basketball" or anything similar.
Sometimes, dude, you really have to set aside the inclination to make everything confrontational.
You can respond and discuss without tossing out the insults right off the bat, no?
vikinginferno said pretty clearly that Evans is so far "putting up numbers as a rookie to put him in the top 10 draft picks of the decade." That's not blind homerism. You might disagree and probably most will, but he did not just come out and say "Tyreke Evans is the best rookie to ever play the game of basketball" or anything similar.
Sometimes, dude, you really have to set aside the inclination to make everything confrontational.
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i knew this was gonna happen.
lebron
wade
yao
pau gasol
chris paul
dwight howard
kevin durant
brandon roy
he who shall remain nameless...
blake griffin
gilbert arenas
joe johnson
amare
boozer
al jefferson
rajon rondo
greg oden(sucks that he's injured)
derrick rose
oj mayo
how many is that? to be honest i wouldve added martin but i decided not to do it. wait i just said his name so yeah... our very own kevin martin.
lebron
wade
yao
pau gasol
chris paul
dwight howard
kevin durant
brandon roy
he who shall remain nameless...
blake griffin
gilbert arenas
joe johnson
amare
boozer
al jefferson
rajon rondo
greg oden(sucks that he's injured)
derrick rose
oj mayo
how many is that? to be honest i wouldve added martin but i decided not to do it. wait i just said his name so yeah... our very own kevin martin.
I just looked at all the first rounds of the 2000's and that draft is the only decent one. Funny you didn't mention any other years because the drafts were pretty bad.
Superstars taken in drafts
2008: No one I would take over Evans
2007: Durant
2006: Roy
2005: Derron Williams, Chris Paul
2004: Dwight Howard
2003: James, Anthony, Bosh, Wade
2002: Stoudemire
2001: Gasol
2000: No one
Those are the legitimate superstars taken during those drafts. And your 30 game argument only makes me realize more how special Evans is, considering only James (the best player in this list) put up the numbers Evans is putting up as a Rookie. 11 players here and I would take Tyreke over at least 1/2 of these guys, so I think that puts him inside the top ten right now.
Superstars taken in drafts
2008: No one I would take over Evans
2007: Durant
2006: Roy
2005: Derron Williams, Chris Paul
2004: Dwight Howard
2003: James, Anthony, Bosh, Wade
2002: Stoudemire
2001: Gasol
2000: No one
Those are the legitimate superstars taken during those drafts. And your 30 game argument only makes me realize more how special Evans is, considering only James (the best player in this list) put up the numbers Evans is putting up as a Rookie. 11 players here and I would take Tyreke over at least 1/2 of these guys, so I think that puts him inside the top ten right now.
Obviously you rate the 2009 rookies with previous rookies at the same point. i.e., after about 30 games
That puts him tied or just behind Lebron for that class of 2003. For all we know Evans could lose his arm in a boating accident next week. You can absolutely rank him for the work he's put in so far.
That puts him tied or just behind Lebron for that class of 2003. For all we know Evans could lose his arm in a boating accident next week. You can absolutely rank him for the work he's put in so far.
Ricky Rubio? Are you kidding me? Have you seen him play this year? I have... In no way should he even be put in the same breath as the aforementioned dude. Get off that already. Ricky Rubio would be averraging 5 points and 6 assists in this league right now.
And by his play on the defensive end that ive seen this year he would have absolutely no chance of guarding any of the athletic PG in this league. The kid is physically weak and slow. Hence why we did not draft him.
Up to 30 games rookie year... tyreke is putting up numbers on par with the anything that has came in a LOOOONG time.
And by his play on the defensive end that ive seen this year he would have absolutely no chance of guarding any of the athletic PG in this league. The kid is physically weak and slow. Hence why we did not draft him.
Up to 30 games rookie year... tyreke is putting up numbers on par with the anything that has came in a LOOOONG time.
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oj mayo ended his rookie season 18/3.8/3.2 thats 2 points, 1.2 rebounds and
1.8 assists less than what evans is averaging. he wouldve scored more if he werent playing with rudy gay like evans would be averaging fewer points if martin were here.
mayo is just as good if not better than evans. they are the same type of player, evans is 2 inches taller and mayo is more athletic.
1.8 assists less than what evans is averaging. he wouldve scored more if he werent playing with rudy gay like evans would be averaging fewer points if martin were here.
mayo is just as good if not better than evans. they are the same type of player, evans is 2 inches taller and mayo is more athletic.
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OMG! OMG! OMG! First of all you said someone who hasn't even played NBA basketball (Griffin)is a better NBA player than Evans, and then you say that someone else who hasn't even played in the NBA (Rubio)is a better NBA player than Evans. WOW!!! OMG!!!
And THEN you say that OJ Mayo is better than Evans?!?!?!
You are the biggest joke EVER. EVER!!! Dude I sure hope you are a closet Laker fan because I would never want to think a Kings fan could talk so stupidly about one of their own. WOW!!!
Too bad Brick hasn't seen this yet. You might wanna disappear for about a week before he gets back patna.
And THEN you say that OJ Mayo is better than Evans?!?!?!
You are the biggest joke EVER. EVER!!! Dude I sure hope you are a closet Laker fan because I would never want to think a Kings fan could talk so stupidly about one of their own. WOW!!!
Too bad Brick hasn't seen this yet. You might wanna disappear for about a week before he gets back patna.
How is Ricky N00bio better than Tyreke when Tyreke is busy winning games for the NBA's worst team last year and N00bio is averaging like 5 PPG and 3 TO per game in a worse league than the NBA? Or how can you say N00bio is better when N00bio was too scared to work out vs Evans or any of the other PGs. Ricky N00bio ftl.