SF 49ers: 2009-2010
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Kind of strange. I thought they'd just take Brown and get a second steal on a player who slid. Carolina will be one of the last picks in the 1st round, so there's no guarantee it will be much higher value than Brown. Now, they only have a 3rd left in the first four rounds, and have yet to address the OL or defense.
Great steal with Crabtree, getting a top-two player with the 10th pick.
Great steal with Crabtree, getting a top-two player with the 10th pick.
As a person that grew up in San Francisco, even though Basketball is my #1 sport, The 49ers are my #1 Team!!!. And I am proud to be a fan of the 49ers today. What a sensational gift in Michael Crabtree. Not just a nice pick, I think the steal of the day thanks to the Raiders. Then on top of that, the Niners trade for Carolina's 1st for '10. Look at Carolina's schedule for this upcoming season:
Panthers schedule
Philadelphia Eagles
At Atlanta Falcons
At Dallas Cowboys (Mon)
Bye
Washington Redskins
At Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Buffalo Bills
At Arizona Cardinals
At New Orleans Saints
Atlanta Falcons
Miami Dolphins (Thurs)
At New York Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
At New England Patriots
Minnesota Vikings
At New York Giants
New Orleans Saints
They play seven games against '08 playoff teams, and that does not include at New England, at Dallas, at NYJ.
Panthers schedule
Philadelphia Eagles
At Atlanta Falcons
At Dallas Cowboys (Mon)
Bye
Washington Redskins
At Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Buffalo Bills
At Arizona Cardinals
At New Orleans Saints
Atlanta Falcons
Miami Dolphins (Thurs)
At New York Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
At New England Patriots
Minnesota Vikings
At New York Giants
New Orleans Saints
They play seven games against '08 playoff teams, and that does not include at New England, at Dallas, at NYJ.
All that stands out to me about Carolina is Jake Del Homme's playoff last year.
Im sure his disastrous appearance will have an effect, and their best defender Julius Peppers doesn't even want to be there on his one year tender.
I really think the Carolina pick might be higher than expected by many.
Just another storyline to follow next year!
Im sure his disastrous appearance will have an effect, and their best defender Julius Peppers doesn't even want to be there on his one year tender.
I really think the Carolina pick might be higher than expected by many.
Just another storyline to follow next year!
it was, indeed, kinda strange, but the niners are gathering pieces, and building a team that could potentially compete in the next couple of years, provided they keep adding talent in their areas of need. from what i've heard, next year's quarterback class is supposed to be pretty strong, so i think its pertinent for the niners to take a definitive look at shaun hill this coming season (he's the only quarterback they've had in recent memory who led his team to a winning record in games started, i believe). if they don't like what they see, then perhaps they could parlay their multiple first-round picks next season into a quarterback of the future...
that's a lot to bank on, but it doesn't seem so unlikely to me, given that the 49ers front office is making more measured and smart decisions these days. hopefully they will have learned from their failures with alex smith. smith was a classic case of a promising quarterback who was unintentionally sabatoged by his own team. composure and mental toughness are so necessary to the qb position in the nfl, and, with alex smith running for his life so often with absolutely NO ONE to throw to, he had few opportunities to let his arm do the talking, and it stunted his progress. its a damn shame...
but the niners have recently added some talented pieces to their receiving squad, including their absolute gift of a draft pick at #10. the raiders are gonna hear it from the press for YEARS over this most recent error in judgement. to quote dion sanders after michael crabtree was drafted, "he is truly my baby."
now they need to continue shoring up their o-line issues and defensive issues (certainly no simple task), and seriously consider a more permanent solution at quarterback, and they might just be on their way back to competing. the playoffs don't seem nearly as improbable of a goal as they have the last few seasons...
that's a lot to bank on, but it doesn't seem so unlikely to me, given that the 49ers front office is making more measured and smart decisions these days. hopefully they will have learned from their failures with alex smith. smith was a classic case of a promising quarterback who was unintentionally sabatoged by his own team. composure and mental toughness are so necessary to the qb position in the nfl, and, with alex smith running for his life so often with absolutely NO ONE to throw to, he had few opportunities to let his arm do the talking, and it stunted his progress. its a damn shame...
but the niners have recently added some talented pieces to their receiving squad, including their absolute gift of a draft pick at #10. the raiders are gonna hear it from the press for YEARS over this most recent error in judgement. to quote dion sanders after michael crabtree was drafted, "he is truly my baby."
now they need to continue shoring up their o-line issues and defensive issues (certainly no simple task), and seriously consider a more permanent solution at quarterback, and they might just be on their way back to competing. the playoffs don't seem nearly as improbable of a goal as they have the last few seasons...I wonder how silly Raiders coach feels reading his mandatory statements handed down from Uncle Al.
From the Sac Bee about his pick who amassed a whopping 13 TD's over his career compared to Crabtree and his 41.
(paraphrased)
'Crabtree is a system player. If Bey was in Texas Tech's system he would have easily had 50 TD's. He's that talented.'
From the Sac Bee about his pick who amassed a whopping 13 TD's over his career compared to Crabtree and his 41.
(paraphrased)
'Crabtree is a system player. If Bey was in Texas Tech's system he would have easily had 50 TD's. He's that talented.'
Sure, if Carolina falls well short of their 12-4 from this year, the deal looks much better. I've read that next year's draft is expected to be a lot stronger than this year's, so I guess that was also part of the thinking.
Anyone have thoughts on the second day of picks? It looks like they didn't really address the spots that were most expected, but went with something closer to BPA at positions they could use, rather than their most obvious needs. Best case, they have a power runner to spell Gore, a future Ted linebacker to play next to Willis, a blocking TE to replace Bajema with better pass catching potential, and a QB project with a lot of physical tools.
Anyone have thoughts on the second day of picks? It looks like they didn't really address the spots that were most expected, but went with something closer to BPA at positions they could use, rather than their most obvious needs. Best case, they have a power runner to spell Gore, a future Ted linebacker to play next to Willis, a blocking TE to replace Bajema with better pass catching potential, and a QB project with a lot of physical tools.
Michael Crabtree was not only a two-time Biletnikoff winner as best receiver in college football, but most experts had him rated top three overall talent among all players in this years draft. The lucky 49ers and their fans will love this guy for years and years. An expert route runner, great hands, explosive speed after the catch, big game reciever.
Here's probably his best clutch catch ever. It had to be an absolutely perfect pass, an absolutely perfect catch and an absolutely perfect run to defeat #1 rated Texas, scoring against double coverage with one second remaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur2NfXtvQTs
Here's probably his best clutch catch ever. It had to be an absolutely perfect pass, an absolutely perfect catch and an absolutely perfect run to defeat #1 rated Texas, scoring against double coverage with one second remaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur2NfXtvQTs
Yeah, No tackle and no pass rusher was quite surprising to me. I guess they didn't feel like the value wasn't there for them.
I actually liked most of the second day picks. Coffee seems to be a tough, bigger(if he really does add a few lbs) runner to spell Gore. McKillop is probably my biggest concern in that his weakness is athleticism (according to most analysis), which might limit his ceiling. But he was pretty impressive in college so I'm not really concerned. Pascoe is our 3rd TE and mostly a blocker although he supposedly has pretty good hands too. The other guys are kinda the risk/reward types. Davis has the talent and physical skills and was rated as one of the better QBs in the draft but has some mechanical quirks in his game and maybe a learning disability. The last 2 guys are similar in that all of the physical talent and ability is there, they just need to learn something (I don't even know what exactly that might be).
I actually liked most of the second day picks. Coffee seems to be a tough, bigger(if he really does add a few lbs) runner to spell Gore. McKillop is probably my biggest concern in that his weakness is athleticism (according to most analysis), which might limit his ceiling. But he was pretty impressive in college so I'm not really concerned. Pascoe is our 3rd TE and mostly a blocker although he supposedly has pretty good hands too. The other guys are kinda the risk/reward types. Davis has the talent and physical skills and was rated as one of the better QBs in the draft but has some mechanical quirks in his game and maybe a learning disability. The last 2 guys are similar in that all of the physical talent and ability is there, they just need to learn something (I don't even know what exactly that might be).
Yea he has gotten slow, I figured he would be replaced in the starting lineup by the end of the season anyways.
Problem is that it forces Brown (young & unproven) or Spencer (injuries & disappointing play since extension) into a starting role now.
Who knows if they are ready?
The Niners are showing some interest in Dre Bly, but I hope it's for nickle/dime duties.
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/05/niners-scheduled-to-visit-with-dre-bly.html
Problem is that it forces Brown (young & unproven) or Spencer (injuries & disappointing play since extension) into a starting role now.
Who knows if they are ready?
The Niners are showing some interest in Dre Bly, but I hope it's for nickle/dime duties.
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/05/niners-scheduled-to-visit-with-dre-bly.html
He got burned over and over again last year, but so did overrated Champ Bailey. But you can blame part of that on their anemic pass rush IMO. I wouldn't really be against Dre since we give up nothing to get him, but I'd rather see us try to trade with Sheldon Brown in Philly, because he's unhappy and wants a trade. I mean he's 29 so he's younger, and he routinely does well against guys like TO, Plax, Santana Moss, for his whole career. Hopefully he would only cost us like a 4th round pick for next year.
Bly is def older and was hindered by a horrible pass rush last few years. I'd be ok with him as a nickle/dime guy but that's it. Walt Harris came in as an older vet and did pretty darn good for us a couple years.
Sheldon Brown will want a big contract to go along with that trade. I'd rather pick up an older nickle/dime CB for a year or two anyways. Take a cheaper (older) vet and draft a CB next year to take fill his nickle/dime spot in a year or so.
Tarell Brown looked pretty good in the time he got last year, he needs a chance to step up and be a starter. Shawntae Spencer has done nothing but disappoint and/or get injured since his contract extension - I'm only hoping he can be a solid nickle CB at this point. But if he can show some good stuff and win CB2 it's ok with me.
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Who would you rather play dime? This is our current depth chart for CBs (minus any UDFAs):
-Nate Clements
-Shawntae Spencer
-Tarell Brown
-Marcus Hudson
-Allen Rossum
1-3 is most likely fine. Spencer and Brown can battle it out for the starting job. But who plays dime? Hudson has shown that he is largely a special teams player and Rossum is strictly a PR/KR.
Bly is not great, and there are def a few CB FAs out there that are better. But who can we sign that isn't old? (and slightly washed up haha). Who ever we sign will prolly be nickle at best, with a good chance at dime.
Roderick Hood is the only one I can think of, but he won't come as cheap as the others. The upsides are that he's only 27 and would actually compete for the #2 spot. Spencer would most likely lose in this situation and be moved to dime duties.
I wouldn't be mad if we got Hood, but I would rather us sign a cheaper & older FA to play and let our younger talent grow and develop. Tarrell Brown is looking like he could be a real 5th round gem - remember he only dropped because of character flags. Based on sheer talent he was projected to go 2nd-3rd.
No matter what happens, I'm looking forward to the upcoming season. Go Niners!
-Nate Clements
-Shawntae Spencer
-Tarell Brown
-Marcus Hudson
-Allen Rossum
1-3 is most likely fine. Spencer and Brown can battle it out for the starting job. But who plays dime? Hudson has shown that he is largely a special teams player and Rossum is strictly a PR/KR.
Bly is not great, and there are def a few CB FAs out there that are better. But who can we sign that isn't old? (and slightly washed up haha). Who ever we sign will prolly be nickle at best, with a good chance at dime.
Roderick Hood is the only one I can think of, but he won't come as cheap as the others. The upsides are that he's only 27 and would actually compete for the #2 spot. Spencer would most likely lose in this situation and be moved to dime duties.
I wouldn't be mad if we got Hood, but I would rather us sign a cheaper & older FA to play and let our younger talent grow and develop. Tarrell Brown is looking like he could be a real 5th round gem - remember he only dropped because of character flags. Based on sheer talent he was projected to go 2nd-3rd.
No matter what happens, I'm looking forward to the upcoming season. Go Niners!
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49ers sign CB Dre Bly to a 1 yr deal.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4195835
He is supposed to "compete" to start opposite Nate Clements. I hope he "competes" for the nickle slot with Shawntae Spencer!
Let's go Tarell Brown!
edit: Bly signed for the vet minimum $845,000 - I'm not complaining
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4195835
He is supposed to "compete" to start opposite Nate Clements. I hope he "competes" for the nickle slot with Shawntae Spencer!
Let's go Tarell Brown!
edit: Bly signed for the vet minimum $845,000 - I'm not complaining
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