Quincy Douby

[BawLa]

He gets a lot of criticism around here because we wanted him to be a PG when he is clearly a OG. Tonight he deserves some honors for the excellent effort and the (what I presume to be) career scoring night. Congrats Q!

He really showed tonight why he can be an asset to his team, coming off the bench and knocking down shots and driving the lane.

 

[sacgirl88]

yea i know tonight he was played really good he had 32 yea that was his career high. I liked the fact that even though the game was to out of hand to win he didn't give up he ended up having a 3pt play.way to go tonight quincy hope to see that effort next season.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

only the beginning.. the guy has potential

 

[Bricklayer]

only the beginning.. the guy has potential

As what? And for whom?

It remains to be said one more time: there are no minutes for a scrawny 6'3" OG on this team with Kevin around (not to mention Cisco, John etc.). The two guys almost cannot be played together. And unless you are down 3 starters in a nearly meaningless game, Quncy isn't going to be able to sink back into his college comfort zone as a dribble down the floor and chuck #1 option.

Good for Quincy getting his career highlight, but I don't think that really changes the underlying structural problems. Reminds me of way back in the day when Vinny Del Negro would score 20+ and have his season high in each season finale long after we had been eliminated. And then you woke up the next morning and still didn't know what to do with him.

 

[Rockmeister]

Yes, he did have a good game, however, I'm still not that impressed with him.

 

[Entity]

maybe he impressed somebody enough to take him as fodder in a trade.

 

[PurpleHaze]

With four wing players that are all similar to Douby in style (but overall better to way better) it seems at least one has to go via trade. Douby would be my first choice and Salmons second (unless Artest goes). If the right deal can be made I'd do it, just like trading Artest, but only if the return nets Kings something back they desperately need - rebounding, shot blocking, athletic inside presence, etc. Q had a nice game last night in LA, but I wasn't terribly impressed since it was more of a glorified pick-up game and garbage time as the contest wound down. Likewise, Hawes bombing (unlike his last game at Kobe Staples) didn't concern as the rookie finally came back to earth a bit - but oh what promise he's showed of late!

 

[tyrant]

well lets take a look. similar situation with spencer, but quincy hasnt had as many 20 minute games. so i did the math with every game he's logged 15 or more minutes in. 23 games total and his ppg average is 10. he deserves a fair shot and hasnt gotten it. there are some starters on pretty good teams that get 25 minutes a game and dont average 10 points. i'm not saying he should be a starter, but definately should be in the rotation more than 8 or 9 minutes a game. you dont attend rutgers and not have skill. garcia.....is....trash. and so is salmons. most players become better when they're traded. its just logically connected. they dont get summer league makeovers. (well maybe miller with his weight loss and corn rolls) really depends on how the other teams use them and how much confidence the organization instills in the player. dont be suprised if quincy is traded and he ends up as the next monta ellis.

 

[mac]

How is Garcia trash? He's improved tremendously throughout this season, and has definitely shown better production than douby. Of course I'd be happy if Douby breaks out next season and gets regular minutes, but as everyone has mentioned, it'll be very hard with so many more experienced and somewhat better wing players already competing for minutes.

 

[Entity]

Garcia is trash? and Douby is worthy of more time? Wow I know ppl are entitled to their opinion but, I think you should be stripped of your opinion privilages.

 

[tyrant]

Garcia is trash? and Douby is worthy of more time? Wow I know ppl are entitled to their opinion but, I think you should be stripped of your opinion privilages.

opinions are not privilages. they're rights. refer to the 1st amendment. and if anyone should be stripped of anything it should be garcia being stripped of our special olympics uniform

 

[Warhawk]

garcia.....is....trash. and so is salmons. most players become better when they're traded. its just logically connected. they dont get summer league makeovers. (well maybe miller with his weight loss and corn rolls) really depends on how the other teams use them and how much confidence the organization instills in the player. dont be suprised if quincy is traded and he ends up as the next monta ellis.

Just - wow. Garcia is more of an NBA player than QD will ever be, I think. QD may have some good scoring nights, but Garcia is a leader on the floor and is a much better all-around player with a good 3-pt shot. He is trimming down his mistakes. QD suffers from trying to play the 1 when he is a more undersized 2. And this team has no room for an undersized 2 unless 2 other players at that postition are injured.

I like QD, but he isn't getting PT here with all the better players in front of him.

 

[Bricklayer]

opinions are not privilages. they're rights. refer to the 1st amendment. and if anyone should be stripped of anything it should be garcia being stripped of our special olympics uniform

You are just being ridiculous now.

 

[tyrant]

Just - wow. Garcia is more of an NBA player than QD will ever be, I think. QD may have some good scoring nights, but Garcia is a leader on the floor and is a much better all-around player with a good 3-pt shot. He is trimming down his mistakes. QD suffers from trying to play the 1 when he is a more undersized 2. And this team has no room for an undersized 2 unless 2 other players at that postition are injured.

I like QD, but he isn't getting PT here with all the better players in front of him.

tearing your post apart in 5...4...3...2...

1st of all, garcia isnt a leader. his horrible shot selection and turnovers are the more obvious reasons. he's also the worst defending guard on the team. and if you want to argue that just remember that we have artest, salmons thats better defensively, martin (who was put on parker in the 06 playoffs to slow him down) and beno (who knows something about defense playing under greg pop). the comment you made about quincy was just flagrantly dumb. not you, the comment!! "he cant get pt with all the better players in front of him"?????? we dont have players like christie and hedo and bobby jackson, peja. we got scrubs that cant play .500 basketball. you lose that argument on all accounts. along the way you might of lost a few marbles

 

[tyrant]

He gets a lot of criticism around here because we wanted him to be a PG when he is clearly a OG. Tonight he deserves some honors for the excellent effort and the (what I presume to be) career scoring night. Congrats Q!

He really showed tonight why he can be an asset to his team, coming off the bench and knocking down shots and driving the lane.

no doubt he's a skilled offensive player. he just needs more time. people see his size as a problem. 6'3 is not really small at all. iverson is only 6'1. its the size of your heart. some people here think taller players are more immune to turnovers and mistakes.

 

[Warhawk]

1st of all, garcia isnt a leader. his horrible shot selection and turnovers are the more obvious reasons. he's also the worst defending guard on the team. and if you want to argue that just remember that we have artest, salmons thats better defensively, martin (who was put on parker in the 06 playoffs to slow him down) and beno (who knows something about defense playing under greg pop). the comment you made about quincy was just flagrantly dumb. not you, the comment!! "he cant get pt with all the better players in front of him"?????? we dont have players like christie and hedo and bobby jackson, peja. we got scrubs that cant play .500 basketball.

When Reggie says that Garcia is a floor leader, I take him at his word. I also see him directing traffic and running plays, assuming the role of leader. Ron praises him for his leadership and role. QD does none of this, and is short and skinny for the 2, making it hard for him to defend larger players, although his wingspan makes up for this a bit. Garcia has also gotten much better about shot selection this year.

Garcia is a much better defender than Martin. You are just way off base. Martin is the weakest defender among our 2 guards. Ron is a forward, not a guard. Salmons is also a pretty good defender, but also plays the 3 a lot. I think you forget who predominantly plays the 2 on this team.

And I'd say our lack of playing 0.500 ball has nothing to do with the 2 and 3 positions; in fact, that is where we are mostly stocked with talent. We are OK at the 5, and Beno helped shore up the 1. We are mostly lacking a consistent presence at the 4.

 

[Warhawk]

along the way you might of lost a few marbles

Only in your little world....

 

[Entity]

I will take horrible shot selection since he was 46% from the field and 40% from 3pt. Meanwhile QD was in below 40% in both categories. your right about the turnovers QD averaged exactly half of what Garcia averaged in turnovers. BUT wait QD also played 1/3 of the minutes Garcia did. Shall we talk about blocks, steal, rebounds. Hard to talk about it since QD doesn't have a round number in any of those categories.

 

[tyrant]

When Reggie says that Garcia is a floor leader, I take him at his word. I also see him directing traffic and running plays, assuming the role of leader. Ron praises him for his leadership and role. QD does none of this, and is short and skinny for the 2, making it hard for him to defend larger players, although his wingspan makes up for this a bit. Garcia has also gotten much better about shot selection this year.

Garcia is a much better defender than Martin. You are just way off base. Martin is the weakest defender among our 2 guards. Ron is a forward, not a guard. Salmons is also a pretty good defender, but also plays the 3 a lot. I think you forget who predominantly plays the 2 on this team.

And I'd say our lack of playing 0.500 ball has nothing to do with the 2 and 3 positions; in fact, that is where we are mostly stocked with talent. We are OK at the 5, and Beno helped shore up the 1. We are mostly lacking a consistent presence at the 4.

yes ron plays the position of small forward, but they are all wing players with the exception of the point gaurd. they are off the ball gaurds. do we have that undertanding? good. now, garcia is the weakest among wing players. you think martin is worse, i dont. i believe he's quicker and does a better job of moving his feet. calling out plays and signaling traffic doesnt make him a leader. maybe a crossing gaurd. but not a leader for this team. jim jackson was probably the best player ive ever seen that could get in a text book defensive stance. you'd think he wrote a book on the procedure. but if you asked him to move side to side he couldnt keep up

 

[Entity]

Have you noticed QD on the floor and lack of direction he has. Id you look closely at his tattoos he has directions to his house, how to operate a motor vehicle and the exact change he needs to by a 40 oz. bottle of Old English. with his 32 last night he not only supassed his career high he also surpassed his IQ.

 

[tyrant]

I will take horrible shot selection since he was 46% from the field and 40% from 3pt. Meanwhile QD was in below 40% in both categories. your right about the turnovers QD averaged exactly half of what Garcia averaged in turnovers. BUT wait QD also played 1/3 of the minutes Garcia did. Shall we talk about blocks, steal, rebounds. Hard to talk about it since QD doesn't have a round number in any of those categories.

hmmmmmm. garcia's career high is 31. quincys is 32. hows that for a round number?

 

[Entity]

hmmmmmm. garcia's career high is 31. quincys is 32. hows that for a round number?

its a great number on 22 shots against Ira Newble and the rest of the team forcing you the ball to help you reach that 30 pt mark.

 

[linzeesan]

(well maybe miller with his weight loss and corn rolls)

Tearing your comment apart in 5, 4, 3, 2...

CORN ROWS!

 

[tyrant]

Have you noticed QD on the floor and lack of direction he has. Id you look closely at his tattoos he has directions to his house, how to operate a motor vehicle and the exact change he needs to by a 40 oz. bottle of Old English. with his 32 last night he not only supassed his career high he also surpassed his IQ.

hmm, now youre using cheap shots. lets not confuse basketball i.q with intellect. he did go to a higher learning university

 

[tyrant]

Tearing your comment apart in 5, 4, 3, 2...

CORN ROWS!

you'll have to excuse me. i have an army cut.

 

[Entity]

hmm, now youre using cheap shots. lets not confuse basketball i.q with intellect. he did go to a higher learning university

yeah I remeber Rutgers recruiting him because of his scholastic endevours. I bet he majored in criminal justice like most athletes that aren't that smart.

 

[vfettke]

Quincy can score like no other in the right system. However, he is no good to us here. We already have Martin, Salmons, and Cisco. Douby should be traded to a team that can utilize him. If he's used correctly and plays well his confidence will go up and he'll be a great scorer.

So once again, send him to the Dubs!

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

First of all, congrats to Quincy. I know it's toward the end of the season and that's when the more unheralded guys shine (see Ramon Sessions in Milwaukee; 56th overall pick this year, gets a 20 pt-24 ast game), but being able to score 30+ as a guy perceived to be a 10th-11th man on this team--that's definitely something noteworthy.

I can't say much for the Lakers defense at him, because it seemed like no one was really close to Quincy whenever he shot, but Quincy really made the Lakers pay (well at least to keep the score closer I mean--he was essentially the only scorer besides Udrih) with his outside shot from the get-go. Quincy's too good a shooter (a tad streaky, yes) to be continually left open from the outside, and once he gets that confidence going he has the silky smoothness to waltz into the lane and finish layups whether in transition or off his own drives--and that's what he did today. He's definitely shown his scoring ilk through and through, and if he's to make his case in this league it's as a undersized scoring SG with solid reputation for shooting; he definitely didn't show many PG chops today.

I know there's that argument with Artest, Martin, and Miller gone, someone's got to score for us, but I got the feeling the Lakers were playing half-hearted defense on Douby. They caved into him, and although they didn't pay for it because they are a high volume scoring team of their own, Douby continued to get his points on the other end. However, one thing I got from the game was that Douby didn't seem to create his own shot much--he'd either pass it back out tentatively when he was actually guarded, but for the most part he would settle for wide open jumpshots or just glide into the lane. Not a big problem, as it can easily be developed with a guy of his scoring mentality, though. Overall, nice game for Douby.

 

[Kingster]

Quincy can score like no other in the right system. However, he is no good to us here. We already have Martin, Salmons, and Cisco. Douby should be traded to a team that can utilize him. If he's used correctly and plays well his confidence will go up and he'll be a great scorer.

So once again, send him to the Dubs!

I'd like to be educated on what system we actually have. I have no idea at this point where Theus or GP wants to go with this team. Is it primarily a running team, a slow down, grind it out team? So far, that question appears to be up in the air, unless some info has leaked from high command that hasn't come into my possession.

 

[Warhawk]

yes ron plays the position of small forward, but they are all wing players with the exception of the point gaurd. they are off the ball gaurds. do we have that undertanding? good. now, garcia is the weakest among wing players. you think martin is worse, i dont. i believe he's quicker and does a better job of moving his feet. calling out plays and signaling traffic doesnt make him a leader. maybe a crossing gaurd. but not a leader for this team. jim jackson was probably the best player ive ever seen that could get in a text book defensive stance. you'd think he wrote a book on the procedure. but if you asked him to move side to side he couldnt keep up

I think anyone who confuses the positions played by Ron Artest and QD has, uh, credibility issues.

Yes, Martin has quick feet. But he's not a strong defensive presence like Garcia, Salmons, and Artest can be. If you listen to interviews and watch the game, it's not Garcia who needs to step up his defensive efforts - it's Martin who slacks off defensively more often than any other. How many blocks per game and steals per game does each get? Oh yeah, Garcia has 8 times as many blocks and 20% more steals per game with 10 fewer minutes. He is often slated with the difficult defensive assignments at the guard positions. But you must be right, he sucks.

Get a grip.