Kings sign Mikki Moore!!!

ParniValjak

ParniValjak

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I just got a question here! How many times in the last few years did we say "This is leading to another move. GP has something up his sleeve". Well if history says anything, there is nothing good coming after this. Moore is someone you would be OK with giving a 2 year $6-7 million deal as a big player thats useful to have on the roster. At MLE he is highly overpriced and he is guaranteed for 2 and a half years which seriously damages that summer of 2009 Free Agency target!!!

If there was a move to move one of our many crappy front court player it would have been done BEFORE signing Moore to this deal. You don't sign a player and then hope to get the deal done somewhere else. Well, not if you are a smart GM.

TDOS has got off to a crappy start. First you hire the least qualified rookie coach after taking your time long enough to lose the big fish. Then you do no draft day trades, and sign an average player to a big contract.

This flat out blows!!!! :mad:

Piksi is right, it will only get worse from here :(
 
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fnordius

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GP, 6 July 2007:
"At some point, you have to exercise restraint. Can you get a player who is going to change the direction of your team? Probably not. And you have to ask, How many of those midlevel contracts do you want when your team is trying to refurbish?"
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Answer: more, apparently.
 
DocHolliday

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Čarolija said:
I just got a question here! How many times in the last few years did we say "This is leading to another move. GP has something up his sleeve". Well if history says anything, there is nothing good coming after this. Moore is someone you would be OK with giving a 2 year $6-7 million deal as a big player thats useful to have on the roster. At MLE he is highly overpriced and he is guaranteed for 2 and a half years which seriously damages that summer of 2009 Free Agency target!!!

If there was a move to move one of our many crappy front court player it would have been done BEFORE signing Moore to this deal. You don't sign a player and then hope to get the deal done somewhere else. Well, not if you are a smart GM.

TDOS has got off to a crappy start. First you hire the least qualified rookie coach after taking your time long enough to lose the big fish. Then you do no draft day trades, and sign an average player to a big contract.

This flat out blows!!!! :mad:

Piksi is right, it will only get worse from here :(
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He has a point.....I'm just hoping it's wrong.
 
hrdboild

hrdboild

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So I guess this means we're gunning for that coveted "9th best team in the west" spot again this year. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
 
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The Truth Hurts

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I actually like this move a lot for a multitude of reasons:

1. Our team is going to suck, and that's a good thing (good draft pick), but we'll have someone exciting on the court who will bring passion and energy to a front line that lacks BIG TIME in that department.

2. It's only guaranteed for 2 years, which means he won't be around for very long and will be in his prime through the contract.

3. Moore's a great locker room guy. Kidd and Carter absolutely raved about him in an NBA access piece, saying that he's been through a lot of crap and actually APPRECIATES being in the league and plays his A** off (take notes Miller...). Should be a welcome site to a dysfunctional Kings team.

4. Lastly, this means there WILL be a significant trade that will dispose (and I mean dispose) of either Brad, Kenny, or Reef. There's no way in hell Geoff plans on keeping this many big men. Consider Moore a temporary, exciting, athletic hustle player that will replace one of the afore mentioned overpaid softies. He'll bring some energy back in ARCO!
 
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John Galt

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SAR + Salmons + Moore = $16M/yr for the next three years? That would be fine if the cap was $100M. In reality, it is not fine. It is horrible.

Way to be prudent with the MLE Geoff.
 
ParniValjak

ParniValjak

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The Truth Hurts said:
4. Lastly, this means there WILL be a signficant trade that will dispose (and I mean dispose) of either Brad, Kenny, or Reef.
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I disagree with this. If there was to be such a trade, then you do that trade BEFORE you sign someone. You don't sign someone and then go off hoping to do a trade to get rid off those troublesome contracts.

Deal negotiations break down all the time and you really don't know if you have done a deal until its signed sealed and delivered. Two days ago, our heirarchy would have thought the deal to deal Bibby to Cavs was just about a done deal. Today, they are far apart in negotiations.

Every GM worth their weight gets rid off bad contracts and then signs someone to fill their void. Not the other way around.

If there is a deal for one or more of Kenny, Brad and SAR, it would have been completed before signing Moore.
 
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The Truth Hurts

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I agree in some respects yes Caro, but, as we all know Geoff is not a conventional GM and maybe thought Moore would be snatched up by the time he pulled off a front court relieving trade. I definitely wouldn't say there's no chance Brad, Kenny, or Reef will be traded because Moore was picked up beforehand. I'd say the chances are 90/10 honestly.
 
Vlade4GM

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Someone please explain to me why? I can't take anymore of this garbage about how we're rebuilding and then something like this happens. Which is it? Why are we even using the MLE let alone using it on a guy in his 30's? Are we trying to compete or not? Maybe we're just addicted to mediocrity.
 
Entity

Entity

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unless its 1 part of a multiple team trade. I have seen it before where other aspects of the trade comes about the next day. Like us sending Skinner to portland that year it was like 9 hours after the fact that we jumped on board that multi team trade.
 
jimbodan

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This had better be a precursor to many moves to come, some of which had damn well better be to get rid of Brad Miller along with either KT or SAR.
 
ParniValjak

ParniValjak

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The Truth Hurts said:
I agree in some respects yes Caro, but, as we all know Geoff is not a conventional GM and maybe thought Moore would be snatched up by the time he pulled off a front court relieving trade. I definitely wouldn't say there's no chance Brad, Kenny, or Reef will be traded because Moore was picked up beforehand. I'd say the chances are 90/10 honestly.
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Moore is not someone we much have!!! He is a roster fill in. A solid veteran that can play a decent role. Certainly not worth the MLE. His own team offered him a 3 year, $10 million deal.

If we lose Moore, BIG DEAL!!!! There would have been other options out there that can do the role he can and at a cheaper price too!

GM is not a conventional GM but this is the sort of move that even Mitch Kupchak wouldn't make. This move is amateurish at best. Add another useless body to already a big bunch of useless bodies on our roster. GREAT MOVE! :rolleyes:
 
Vlade4GM

Vlade4GM

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I don't even know what to think about this team's direction anymore. For a second I thought they were turning around and then they do something like this, what is this supposed to mean? It makes me think they have no plan at all. What makes even less sense is it's guarunteed over two years which screws with a logical '09 cap space plan which apparently the kings can care less about. Even if they did trade Miller or whatever, this move still doesn't make any sense. If you just need a big body in there to split time with Hawes then get some guy that will sign a one or two year deal or get him in a trade or something. Another mid level contract that doesn't fit any kind of cap plan doesn't make any sense. We're supposed to be rebuilding, not spending the MLE on 32 year old backup centers with subpar rebounding and defense.
 
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