Could KOBE lead the Cavs to the Finals?
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I don't think so. I think James's ability to share the ball really gave the Pistons hesitation to change their defensive schemes to stop him, I don't think that would have been the case with Kobe.
Plus, LeBron's teammate's seem to want to play for him, whereas the complete opposite could be said about Kobe.
Plus, LeBron's teammate's seem to want to play for him, whereas the complete opposite could be said about Kobe.
Absolutely. Who wouldn't want to play for him? What doesn't get much mention in the 25 straight points game is:
- LBJ stepping up like a mean SOB when Varejao got flattened before anyone got a chance to react
- LBJ following Gooden around the court and screaming at him when Gooden was making dumb plays early in the game and later in the crunch he was consoling and encouraging his teammates as they were making honest mistakes.
- for the most of the crunch time he had 2 over the hill veterans who were way past their bed time (Snow and Marshall) and 2 dudes who messed their pants (Varejao and Pavlovic) leave it all out on the court defensively so that 25 straight points would matter.
We know that MJ couldn't get to the finals without help, why would Kobe? OK it was different league back then, but still. Detroit has 6 players that a way better then anything Cavs have other then LBJ.
- LBJ stepping up like a mean SOB when Varejao got flattened before anyone got a chance to react
- LBJ following Gooden around the court and screaming at him when Gooden was making dumb plays early in the game and later in the crunch he was consoling and encouraging his teammates as they were making honest mistakes.
- for the most of the crunch time he had 2 over the hill veterans who were way past their bed time (Snow and Marshall) and 2 dudes who messed their pants (Varejao and Pavlovic) leave it all out on the court defensively so that 25 straight points would matter.
We know that MJ couldn't get to the finals without help, why would Kobe? OK it was different league back then, but still. Detroit has 6 players that a way better then anything Cavs have other then LBJ.
Yeah...to the playoffs not through it.
Just my opinion because there is no prove unless Lakers moves to the EAST.
Lebron is so much more of a leader and a team player than Kobe will ever be. That is if Kobe has any at all. He is very similar to Steve Nash imo. Kobe is and always will be a one man show. Even if you stick Michael Jordan with Kobe, Kobe wouldn't passed it to MJ.
Just being harshed on Kobe but you get my drift."I think he would, the east stinks so bad"
Championship won for the last three years: East then West then last year East. They may not have as many good teams but they do have team that did beat the West best.
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Exactly who are all the sharpshooters on the Cavs?
In the regular season the Lakers had a much higher FG% as a team (.480 vs. .420), had a much higher 3pt% (.350 vs. .320) and also shot it better from the charity stripe (.760 vs. .742). So much for that theory.
The Lakers are the far better shooting team than the Cavs which only helps to prove my point... thank you.
But here's the really funny part, the reason why you think the Lakers have worse players than the Cavs is because you always hear Kobe complaining about his teammate's, and you never hear a word out of LeBron... exactly.
In the regular season the Lakers had a much higher FG% as a team (.480 vs. .420), had a much higher 3pt% (.350 vs. .320) and also shot it better from the charity stripe (.760 vs. .742). So much for that theory.
The Lakers are the far better shooting team than the Cavs which only helps to prove my point... thank you.
But here's the really funny part, the reason why you think the Lakers have worse players than the Cavs is because you always hear Kobe complaining about his teammate's, and you never hear a word out of LeBron... exactly.
The reason I know the Lakers are worse than the Cavs - after you get past Odom, of course - is because I have watched them play enough over the past three seasons to know exactly how terrible the role players are. Odom is inconsistent and often hurt, Luke Walton has athletic limitations, Kwame has academic limitations, and so on.
The Cavs supporting cast isn't great either, but watching Vujacic and Gibson step up against the Nets and Pistons showed how much better a team can be if you have a couple of players who won't stick their heads in the sand in the playoffs.
The Cavs supporting cast isn't great either, but watching Vujacic and Gibson step up against the Nets and Pistons showed how much better a team can be if you have a couple of players who won't stick their heads in the sand in the playoffs.
The lakers only have the one guy ( Odom).
Cavs team are misfits, but they've got former All Stars at C and OG, and at least a third guy (Gooden) better than any Laker other than Odom is currently.
And all of that said, Cleveland is better, but they aren't THAT much better. And that was how the records played out. The Lakers won...42? The Cavs won 50. Better, but not in a total other world. But Cleveland IS in a total other world when it comes to the Conference they were in. If they'd been out West, the current NBA Finals would have been the matchup IN THE FIRST ROUND (Cavs would hae been a 6th seed in the West).
Cavs team are misfits, but they've got former All Stars at C and OG, and at least a third guy (Gooden) better than any Laker other than Odom is currently.
And all of that said, Cleveland is better, but they aren't THAT much better. And that was how the records played out. The Lakers won...42? The Cavs won 50. Better, but not in a total other world. But Cleveland IS in a total other world when it comes to the Conference they were in. If they'd been out West, the current NBA Finals would have been the matchup IN THE FIRST ROUND (Cavs would hae been a 6th seed in the West).
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