New 49ers thread for 2007 season

VF21

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#1
http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/158458.html

49ers eyeing help on 'D'
Mike Nolan will take the best player left even if he doesn't fit into a 3-4 alignment.
By Matthew Barrows - Bee Staff Writer
Last updated 12:06 am PDT Friday, April 20, 2007


SANTA CLARA -- Mike Nolan wants his 49ers to run a 3-4 defense this season, but he insists he won't let the scheme dictate which players he chooses on draft day.

"We are still looking to draft the best player," Nolan said Thursday at the team's annual draft-day luncheon. "If there's a real good football player that puts us into a 4-3, then that's what we do."

As it happens, every defensive player likely to be available to Nolan in the first round of the April 28-29 draft can play both schemes.

Many believe the 49ers will tap Michigan defensive lineman Alan Branch, one of the draft's largest players at any position. Branch once was considered a top-five selection, but questions about his conditioning and intensity could cause him to slip toward the 49ers at pick No. 11.

Personnel director Scot McCloughan said Thursday that Branch's weight has ballooned to 360 pounds in the past, but that he recently weighed in at about 335 pounds, his playing weight at Michigan.

McCloughan said Branch is one of only three true nose tackles in the draft -- North Carolina State's DeMarcus Tyler and Utah's Paul Soliai are the others -- and that he also could play either of the end positions in a 3-4 front.

Nebraska's Adam Carriker has similar versatility.

McCloughan said Carriker was strong enough to play defensive tackle in a 4-3 front, but had enough pass-rush skills to be effective as a 3-4 defensive end.

A third defensive lineman, Arkansas defensive end Jamaal Anderson, also could figure into the mix.

Most believe Anderson, who had 13 1/2 sacks last year for the Razorbacks, is a better fit in a 4-3 defense because he is more accomplished at rushing the passer than he is at holding his ground against the run.

McCloughan, however, noted that Anderson is a junior with the potential to add plenty of bulk. After all, the 6-foot-5 Anderson began his college career as a 218-pound wide receiver but tipped the scales at 288 pounds in February.

"Who's to say that Jamaal can't be 305 or 320 (pounds) and carry it fine?" McCloughan said.

Another potential first-round selection likely to pique the 49ers' interest is Mississippi linebacker Patrick Willis. Though Willis mostly played middle linebacker in a 4-3 scheme at Mississippi, his combination of size and speed makes a good candidate for the so-called "Mike" inside linebacker spot in a 3-4 defense.

Anderson and Branch will visit with 49ers coaches in Santa Clara this week. Carriker and Willis, meanwhile, are familiar to Nolan and his staff from playing in the Senior Bowl in January.

While Willis was one of the best players on Nolan's South squad, Carriker was just as impressive playing for Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden's North squad. The 49ers also interviewed Carriker at the scouting combine in Indianapolis.

About the writer: The Bee's Matthew Barrows can be reached at mbarrows@sacbee.com.
 
#4
I love Landry, but it is pretty much a given at this point that he won't be there at 11. Very little chance he makes it past Atlanta.

Its not too big a deal though. We could use a FS to groom behind Roman, but we have bigger need at ILB, D-Line, and WR anyway.

Right now I still think LB Patrick Willis will be the pick in the 1st, with WR Sidney Rice or Jason Hill the pick in the 2nd, and someone like DT/DE Ikaika Alama-Francis (best 3-4 DE after Carriker IMO) being taken with one of our 3rds. As always, the draft can be rather unpredictable though.
 
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Anyone see a chance that we move up?

To maybe snag someone like Gaines Adams? We have so many dang picks I would like to see us try do do that. Give up our first round (11) and one third round (97) for the numer 5th or 6th overall.

Take Gaines Adams in the first. Then grab a reciever in the second. Then get what you can with the rest.
 

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Anyone see a chance that we move up?

To maybe snag someone like Gaines Adams? We have so many dang picks I would like to see us try do do that. Give up our first round (11) and one third round (97) for the numer 5th or 6th overall.

Take Gaines Adams in the first. Then grab a reciever in the second. Then get what you can with the rest.
I certainly wouldn't mind giving up the 11 and 97 to get a 5th or 6th. I'm just not sure we could get anyone to talk to us about it. Any ideas on whom we might be able to blackmai... er .. I mean, talk into the deal?
 
#7
I certainly wouldn't mind giving up the 11 and 97 to get a 5th or 6th. I'm just not sure we could get anyone to talk to us about it. Any ideas on whom we might be able to blackmai... er .. I mean, talk into the deal?
Heh, no. But I was just making a loosely based suggestion. I, for example, would be willing to throw a 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder along with the #11 to move up. But I don't even know if that would be enough either. My logic was that we have so many darn picks that a team in the 4, 5, or 6 spot overall might be willing to move to just the 11, to get some more depth that they so desperately need.

The 4, 5 and 6 are the Bucs, Cards, and Skins respectively. I would think that if Okoye falls to the #5, Arizona will take him. But you never know. They need an offensive lineman too so they can better run their offense that is loaded with talent. If Joe Thomas fell to them I could see them pulling the trigger.
 

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Bee: Nolan will try to implement 3-4 again

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/160106.html

The dream defense
49ers coach Mike Nolan is a champion of the 3-4, and will try to implement it again
By Matthew Barrows - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 12:10 am PDT Tuesday, April 24, 2007


SANTA CLARA-It has become a rite of spring at 49ers headquarters.

Every year, when the team assembles for its first minicamp, the coach talks about his desire to run a three-lineman, four-linebacker defense during the upcoming season.

It will help the team from a salary-cap standpoint, he insists, because linebackers come a little cheaper than defensive linemen.

Special teams, too, should improve, considering that 240-pound linebackers are better at covering kickoffs and punts than 300-pound defensive tackles.

Most of all, the coach predicts, it will vastly improve the 49ers' defense because the 3-4 -- with its linebackers blitzing from every direction -- is ideal for throwing opposing offenses off balance.

But what works well in theory doesn't always translate to the football field, as former 49ers coach Dennis Erickson and current coach Mike Nolan have discovered in recent years.

Without the necessary size along the defensive line, previous incarnations of the 3-4 defense have wilted by summer and the grand plan has been quietly abandoned before Labor Day.

This year, however, there's reason to believe springtime optimism will carry into the regular season. Over the past two seasons, the 49ers have said goodbye to several defensive starters -- Anthony Adams and Andre Carter, for example -- who were adequate in a 4-3 alignment but either were too small or not athletic enough to be effective in a 3-4.

The defense also began to bulk up this offseason.

Four of the team's five big-name free-agent additions play defense, and two of them, Aubrayo Franklin and Tully Banta-Cain, fill specific roles in a 3-4 defense. The 320-pound Franklin is the 49ers' first true nose tackle since Michael Carter while Banta-Cain provides the pass-rush ability the 49ers lacked last season. He is one of the top candidates to start opposite Manny Lawson at outside linebacker.

The trend toward defense is expected to continue during this weekend's draft.

"When you just look at the team overall, most of our draft choices thus far have gone on the offensive side of the ball," said Nolan, who has spent six first-day draft choices on offensive players but only one on a defender.

"We will take the best available player," he said. "But I would like to think that if a defensive player would possibly be there (at pick No. 11), then we would like to do that."

The biggest roadblock in running the 3-4 has been the 49ers' defensive line.

Former general manager Terry Donahue preferred speed over size and drafted accordingly. When Nolan took over in 2005, he inherited a roster full of 265-pound defensive ends, none of whom was stout enough to play end in a 3-4 or athletic enough to be converted into a linebacker. The roster also was without a nose tackle, the linchpin of a 3-4 defensive line.

That is why many believe Nolan will tap a defensive lineman with the 11th overall pick Saturday.

When it is their turn to pick, the 49ers likely will have a shot at one of three prospects -- Arkansas' Jamaal Anderson, Michigan's Alan Branch or Nebraska's Adam Carriker -- all of whom would fit nicely into a 3-4 scheme.

If they pass on all three, they have options in the second round.

Incoming defensive coordinator Greg Manusky most recently coached for the San Diego Chargers, a team that has had great success in converting college defensive tackles to 3-4 defensive ends. One of the Chargers' starting ends, Igor Olshansky, was an early second-round pick in 2004. The other, Luis Castillo, was picked 28th overall the following year.

The 49ers could have a similar opportunity with Tennessee's Justin Harrell or Florida's Ray McDonald, both of whom are college defensive tackles with enough athleticism to be 3-4 defensive ends.

Harrell and McDonald visited 49ers headquarters last week, and there's a chance one or both will be available when the 49ers pick in the second round.

About the writer: The Bee's Matthew Barrows can be reached at mbarrows@ sacbee.com.
 
#9
They were just talking about a mock draft on cold pizza this morning. They said an inside soucre from Oakland said that as much as Al Davis doesn't like drafting QB's high in the draft, that he likes Jamarcus and it is likely they will pick him #1. Which means the Lions are set to get Calvin Johnson. The cold pizza draft guys said that because Detroit doesn't need another reciever, that they might be willing to trade their pick to Tampa, Atlanta or San Fran. They ruled out Tampa leaving Atlanta and us to bid for that spot. And it is likely that we win that auction because we have so many picks.

So of course now I'm drooling.

To get Calvin Johnson I would give #11, a 3rd round, and 2 fourth rounds. I don't know if Atlanta would match that. On a side note, Atlanta has some young recievers so they might not be willing to give up much to add depth to a position they already have talent at. Then again, it is Calvin Johnson.

Considering that we just lost a Johnson (Eric), I think we need to fill the void. :D
 
#12
I don't see how #11, a 3rd round and 2 fourth round picks could come close to a #2 pick. See the pick value sheet here: http://www.theredzone.org/2005/draft/draftvaluechart.asp

According to that it would take at two #11 picks to get close. I think the 49ers would have to give #11, and next year's first rounder plus another pick or two to move up for Johnson.

That is all fine and well according to the numbers, but it is about value. I don't claim to know if a 3rd and 2 4th's along with the 11 overall to move up is legitimate enough, but I do know that people don't draft based on those numbers.

Say Russell goes 1st and Johnson goes 2nd. Does that mean that Johnson + a mid 2nd rounder = Russell? No.

Those numbers are crunched out of a formula to generalize the value of the number of the pick but that doesn't mean anything until the human element is put in.

Some people draft based on getting their most pertinent need, others get the best player available and collect talent. A team that has the number 2 pick, like Detroit, has multiple needs. That said, their most pertinent need is not in alignment with the best talent available at their pick. So if they think they can get 4 young talents by giving up one better talent that they don't need, they might do it.

3rd and 4th round guys are not throw-aways. You will get great servicable players in those rounds with the occasional diamond in the rough.
 
#13
I think that chart is used a lot more than you think, at least as a guideline. My point is that there is a huge difference between a #2 and a #11, especially when you're talking about the highly-drooled over Calvin Johnson at #2. It will take a lot to make that big of a jump.
 
#14
Early in the off-season I was all-in on giving up our entire draft for CJ. As time has gone by though, I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather stock up on Defense, maybe go WR in the 2nd and or 3rd rounds or something.

I'd love CJ if it didn't take all our picks away though. Maybe our 1st this year and next and a 3rd now and next year. No idea if that would even work on the chart but something more along those lines for CJ.
 
#15
Early in the off-season I was all-in on giving up our entire draft for CJ. As time has gone by though, I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather stock up on Defense, maybe go WR in the 2nd and or 3rd rounds or something.

I'd love CJ if it didn't take all our picks away though. Maybe our 1st this year and next and a 3rd now and next year. No idea if that would even work on the chart but something more along those lines for CJ.

I'm starting to come to the same realization. It isn't worth taxing the future. After all, one injury to a key player like Alex or Frank and we are back at the top of the draft. That said I would hate to have already given up next years first rounder.

Maybe we could use our 3rd and 4th rounders to get an extra 2nd rounder or maybe move up there.
 
#17
What you talkin' 'bout Willis!

What a great pick considering he is the best inside linebacker in this draft, he has quality character, and our new defensive coordinator is San Diego's old linebacker coach. If we get one defensive end I think we are set defensively.

Rd. 2 should be a reciever just because of all the defensive players taken in the first round thus far. Then maybe we could trade some 3rd and 4th rounders for a late 2nd round to get that DE. Then snab some offensive linemen with the rest.

Niners baby!
 

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2851912

Um...The simple version.

The 49ers are about to acquire top-tier wide-receiver Darrell Jackson for nothing more than a 4th round pick.

Pending a physical!!!

:eek::D:eek:

The San Francisco 49ers, one of the more aggressive teams this offseason in terms of acquisitions, enter this weekend's draft with a league-high eight picks in the first four rounds: one first-round selection, a second, two thirds and four fourths.

On the eve of the draft, the Niners already were poised to maximize the value of one of those fourth-round picks.

Darrell Jackson
Wide Receiver
Seattle Seahawks

Profile 2006 SEASON STATISTICS Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC 63 956 10 15.2 72 252

According to league sources, San Francisco and division rival Seattle are working toward a trade that would send Seahawks wide receiver Darrell Jackson to the Niners in exchange for one of their fourth-rounders, believed to be the Niners' third selection in the round, No. 124 overall. The New Orleans Saints and Tennessee Titans, whose new general manager Mike Reinfeldt came over from Seattle, are also believed to be talking with Seattle about Jackson.


The deal is contingent upon Jackson passing his physical, scheduled for Saturday at the Niners' Santa Clara, Calif., practice facility. Jackson missed 10 regular-season games in 2005 after undergoing surgery to repair torn cartilage in his right knee, underwent a second operation on the knee following Seattle's loss in Super Bowl XL, and missed the final three regular-season games of last season because of turf toe.
Jackson, 28, caught 63 passes in 2006 for 956 yards and 10 touchdowns -- all team-leading totals. At the time of his toe injury, Jackson was leading the league in touchdown catches. He's exceeded 1,000 receiving yards three times in seven seasons.


However, Jackson and Seahawks management reportedly have been at odds following negotiation of the six-year, $25 million contract extension Jackson signed in March 2004, his decision to skip voluntary workouts in 2005, and the manner in which the team handled his knee injury last season.


The presence of Deion Branch, Nate Burleson, and D.J. Hackett in the Seahawks receiving corps made Jackson expendable; Jackson has been on the trading block all offseason but Seattle apparently could not fetch more than a second-day pick -- from its up-and-coming division rival, no less. Branch, whom the Seahawks acquired from the Patriots last season, presumably would become Matt Hasselbeck's No. 1 target.
Should the trade go through, as expected, Jackson's addition represents yet another coup for the Niners, who via free agency added, among others, cornerback Nate Clements, safety Michael Lewis, and Ashley Lelie. Though the Niners lost offensive coordinator Norv Turner to San Diego, they appear to have, in quarterback Alex Smith, running back Frank Gore, tight end Vernon Davis, wide receiver Arnaz Battle, Lelie, and now possibly Jackson, the makings of an explosive offense.


And there's still the draft. With the 11th overall pick, the Niners could pick up a blue-chip prospect such as Penn State offensive tackle Levi Brown or LSU wide receiver Dwayne Bowe to further bolster the offense, or tap Mississippi linebacker Patrick Willis to help head coach Mike Nolan's defense.
In 96 games, including 89 starts, Jackson, a third-round selection in 2000 out of Florida, has 441 receptions for 6,445 yards (14.6-yard average) and 47 touchdowns.
 
#20
Wow. If that goes through I would be exstatic. I had Jackson in my fantasy league last year and followed his progress. He is a great reciever and I would love to have him. And that way we could focus on O-line and D-line for the rest of the draft.
 
#21
We got another first rounder by trading with NE (our first rounder for next year). Looks like it's OT Joe Staley. I guess he was high on the Niner's board and they felt like pulling the trigger. Kinda surprising, but they are thinking ahead for the future.
 
#22
We got another first rounder by trading with NE (our first rounder for next year). Looks like it's OT Joe Staley. I guess he was high on the Niner's board and they felt like pulling the trigger. Kinda surprising, but they are thinking ahead for the future.
Very surprising. In general, I don't like trading next year's first for one now. But looking at our schedule, the momentum of our organization, and with all the moves that we've made, this could be a steal. I forsee us getting back to the playoffs and anything is possible, especially in the NFC.

It's a gamble, but it appears to be a safe gamble.


Now we should be completely dialed in on a DE.
 
#23
I LOVE the addition of DJax as long as it goes through. This really gives us a good WR IMO. I am loving the additions of this offseason. btw is Patrick Willis good? What's he do? The only college player I really followed was Calvin Johnson honestly...
 
#27
We just traded our 2nd rounder, but for what? I thought we might grab Jarret or a DE. They didn't explain what we were getting in exchange for letting the 42nd pick go.
 
#28
We just traded our 2nd rounder, but for what? I thought we might grab Jarret or a DE. They didn't explain what we were getting in exchange for letting the 42nd pick go.

I know I've been pulling my hair out trying to find out what the hell we got form indy. It had better be a 1st rounder next year.