Corliss Anyone?

#1
Assuming Kings resign Price and Williams and let go Potapenko, that leaves Corliss.

Would you resign him if the price is right?

I am thinking yes. He could be helpfull with a Young Gun team on the floor and in the locker room and he could also help provide off the bench if the Maloofs and GP manage to put together a contender.
 
#6
Depends on what the team looks like. Corliss is really not too much of a concern. If we sign him for a reasonable contract, cool. If we let him go, cool!
 
#7
From a locker room perspective, maybe. But I really don't think Corliss brought a lot on the court -- a lot of borderline selfish play on offense, no rebounding, and no defense.
 

VF21

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#8
Assuming Kings resign Price and Williams and let go Potapenko, that leaves Corliss.

Would you resign him if the price is right?

I am thinking yes. He could be helpfull with a Young Gun team on the floor and in the locker room and he could also help provide off the bench if the Maloofs and GP manage to put together a contender.
Would I resign him? Hell, yes!!

The award he received last night from management (the Oscar Robertson Triple Double Award) is indicative of the respect the organization has for him. Corliss is the consummate professional, on and off the court. He's always ready to play and he gives his all.

He would definitely have a place on the Kings if I made the decisions.
 

SLAB

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#9
Would I resign him? Hell, yes!!

The award he received last night from management (the Oscar Robertson Triple Double Award) is indicative of the respect the organization has for him. Corliss is the consummate professional, on and off the court. He's always ready to play and he gives his all.

He would definitely have a place on the Kings if I made the decisions.
1000% agreed.

Of course, if the price is right.
 

VF21

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#10
1000% agreed.

Of course, if the price is right.
The whole "if the price is right" thing is just silly for several reasons. We know he's not going to be offered a whole lot of money. If the Maloofs are willing to pay him to be a positive influence in their locker room, I'm sure not gonna complain. At this point, I think we really need to consider what Corliss brings. He's the most stable veteran around. He has experience in winning at all levels. He's not an embarrassment to the team. He has a work ethic younger players would be wise to emulate.

Guys like Corliss Williamson are much more than their statistics show. I cannot think of anyone else the Kings could get who could give as much as he can - and I do not think he'll be that expensive to rehire. And blast it, even if he is, I hope they don't make the same mistake they made with Vlade. Pay the bleeping money and be glad you did...

:)

One more thing? Over the past few years, the organization has pretty much ripped most of the heart out of the team. If they let Corliss just walk away into the night, it will leave a big gaping wound I don't think they'll be able to fill.
 
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SLAB

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#11
The whole "if the price is right" thing is just silly for several reasons. We know he's not going to be offered a whole lot of money. If the Maloofs are willing to pay him to be a positive influence in their locker room, I'm sure not gonna complain. At this point, I think we really need to consider what Corliss brings. He's the most stable veteran around. He has experience in winning at all levels. He's not an embarrassment to the team. He has a work ethic younger players would be wise to emulate.

Guys like Corliss Williamson are much more than their statistics show. I cannot think of anyone else the Kings could get who could give as much as he can - and I do not think he'll be that expensive to rehire. And blast it, even if he is, I hope they don't make the same mistake they made with Vlade. Pay the bleeping money and be glad you did...

:)

One more thing? Over the past few years, the organization has pretty much ripped most of the heart out of the team. If they let Corliss just walk away into the night, it will leave a big gaping wound I don't think they'll be able to fill.
Well you never know...Some overzealous desperate team (Or Isiah Thomas) might be like "OMG, a leader who averaged 10 points a game! Let's throw our entire MLE at him in a 5 year deal!"

I'm not saying give him the veteran's minimum or nothing, and would be perfectly fine if we gave him a 2-3 million one year deal, but if a team goes haywire...Then you have to walk away.
 
#12
The whole "if the price is right" thing is just silly for several reasons. We know he's not going to be offered a whole lot of money. If the Maloofs are willing to pay him to be a positive influence in their locker room, I'm sure not gonna complain. At this point, I think we really need to consider what Corliss brings. He's the most stable veteran around. He has experience in winning at all levels. He's not an embarrassment to the team. He has a work ethic younger players would be wise to emulate.

Guys like Corliss Williamson are much more than their statistics show. I cannot think of anyone else the Kings could get who could give as much as he can - and I do not think he'll be that expensive to rehire. And blast it, even if he is, I hope they don't make the same mistake they made with Vlade. Pay the bleeping money and be glad you did...

:)

One more thing? Over the past few years, the organization has pretty much ripped most of the heart out of the team. If they let Corliss just walk away into the night, it will leave a big gaping wound I don't think they'll be able to fill.
but would he take it? he's such a positive locker room guy. but it seems there's a few negative locker room guys that are outweighing the good he does.
 

HndsmCelt

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#13
Corless could actually be the key to stablity for this volitile squad. I would go as far as to suggest that the management start preping him for a job as assistant coach. He can still put up points from the bench and I suspect has more than a little to do with the development of the kids. Of course a team in rebuild mode has to be flexable and can't afford to be in a bidding war for his services but at vet min Big Nasty is a bargin.
 
#15
The whole "if the price is right" thing is just silly for several reasons. We know he's not going to be offered a whole lot of money. If the Maloofs are willing to pay him to be a positive influence in their locker room, I'm sure not gonna complain. At this point, I think we really need to consider what Corliss brings. He's the most stable veteran around. He has experience in winning at all levels. He's not an embarrassment to the team. He has a work ethic younger players would be wise to emulate.

Guys like Corliss Williamson are much more than their statistics show. I cannot think of anyone else the Kings could get who could give as much as he can - and I do not think he'll be that expensive to rehire. And blast it, even if he is, I hope they don't make the same mistake they made with Vlade. Pay the bleeping money and be glad you did...

:)

One more thing? Over the past few years, the organization has pretty much ripped most of the heart out of the team. If they let Corliss just walk away into the night, it will leave a big gaping wound I don't think they'll be able to fill.
Absolutley agree. We are going to need a 12th man for the minimum whether it is Corliss or another player. He is a good locker room influence and can present an occasional mismatch. Think of him as a new age (or would it be old school) Lawerence Funderburke. I mean it's either him or Jamal Sampson ;)
 

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#17
I am sure he gets offered more than the Kings can afford to pay from more than a few teams.
I honestly don't think you can make that assumption at this point. What the Kings can afford to pay might just take a backseat to how important they may believe it is to have some kind of steading influence on the team.

I heard several times that the organization really appreciated Corliss' maturity and cool head in the locker room AND his veteran knowledge and experience on the bench and on the court.

I truly believe Petrie will make an honest effort to keep him around.
 
#18
I honestly don't think you can make that assumption at this point. What the Kings can afford to pay might just take a backseat to how important they may believe it is to have some kind of steading influence on the team.

I heard several times that the organization really appreciated Corliss' maturity and cool head in the locker room AND his veteran knowledge and experience on the bench and on the court.

I truly believe Petrie will make an honest effort to keep him around.
Well I guess it depends what direction the franchise wants to go. If we are rebuilding that extra cap space would be nice not to mention the minutes it frees up for a young player or two to develop. Not only that but Corliss has said he hopes to play for another 2-3 years and that sounds to me like he wants a longer term deal.
 

Bricklayer

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#19
Yeah, I'd defintiely try to bring him back. Good guy as a mentor, Sacto ties, and ties to when we were good. Be a useful player-coach type, and knows how to play -- you could do a lot worse for a 10th/11th/12th man type.

Problem is I don't think he really wants to be a 10th/11th/12th man type yet, this will likely be his last chance at a contract worth anything, and those same traits that make him useful for us -- class, professionalism, been to the mountain etc. -- will likely make him a target for an elite team looking to add quality guys to the bench. Throw it all together, and the only way I could really see him coming back here is if we basically outbid anybody else, and that I don't want to do. For a minimum type deal -- sure thing. But he can't carve into our exceptions -- we need those for the rebuild.
 

VF21

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#20
Maybe he'd be interested in a big gold 6??? Or a bunch of furniture from R.C. Willey's that hasn't been used much???
 

pdxKingsFan

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#21
I'm really torn on Corliss. Outside of Kevin Martin, he's one of the few bright spots I saw on the Kings all season. I'd love to have him back, but I kind of wonder what's the point? A one or two year deal would be great and not take us out of the running when some of our bad contracts expire, but what's in it for Corliss? I know we shipped him out during our best years but he's still a reminder of where the Kings came from prior to our good years and I'd like to see him close out his career in style.
 

Entity

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#22
Corlis is a good guy period. He will yell at the players in huddles and the locker room. He may work with the kids I don't know. The player I do know that works with the kids no matter what his off court situation is Ron Artest. Ron was noted for working with Garcia last season and I am sure some this season. Justin and Quincy work with him this season and the respect for him shows on the bench and vice-versa. Ron isn't so great with the other vets but he establishes a good work ethic for the kids.
 
#24
A one or two year deal would be great and not take us out of the running when some of our bad contracts expire, but what's in it for Corliss?
All I can think of is to put a transition into a front office position into his contract offer, and hope that he likes the idea enough to turn down a couple of years of bigger money.
 
#25
For minimum contract only. He could help some kids in the frontcourt. KT or SAR need to go.
Since Potapenko's $3.6M is off the books as well as Corliss's $6.5M, we should give Corliss $3.6M and then divy up the $6.5M to the youngings (Williams, Cisco, Price), KMART will require more $ that is not part of this $6.5M due to his excellent improvement and growth as a player, we don't want to lose him to another team willings to pay him what he deserves.

Corliss is a valuable NBA vet that is a great leader on and off the.

K9 and Muss lead the list of players that I hope we don't see tied to the Kings in the future. Bibby also should be moved for youth which frees up a 1/4 of our cap that he is tied to. Miller is a player on the decline as is SAR, if we can move them for something decent then let's try to do it, otherwise they can still be utilized as starters or off the bench, but please stop playing them together, they are way to slow and unathletic. One can play with Williams or hopefully Noah if we get him or some other athletic PF by next year.

We do need a rebuild, but I feel that a good young PF even Williams with Miller will help us win more games next year. Besides our black hole 4/5, Bibby had a extremely bad season, also Miller didn't have a good one, but he was battling his foot problem for a large portion of the year. If these guys play close to what they are capable then we should have had a better season by default, even with our 6'7" PF K9. ;)
 
#26
Since Potapenko's $3.6M is off the books as well as Corliss's $6.5M, we should give Corliss $3.6M and then divy up the $6.5M to the youngings...
Alas, it's a bit messier than that.

With the end of contracts this year, we have over $14M worth of guys gone; not just the guys we want to keep + Potapenko, but also money from Hart, Taylor, etc. However, all of the players whose contracts aren't ending have raises coming, so that drops us back down to a little over $9.5M. Then there's pay for a draft pick somewhere around 9th, which is about $2.5M. $1M each for Price and Williams, and we're looking at $5M left, all 3 "inactive list" roster slots still empty, and that's before any additional money for Kevin.

It's going to be very tight.
 
#27
Though I would like to see Corliss return, I cannot remember any player the Kings picked up that was ending their career. Divac went to L.A., etc... I have never seen the Kings interested in end-of-career vets; so, though I would like to see Corliss return, I somehow doubt he will.
 
#29
One more thing? Over the past few years, the organization has pretty much ripped most of the heart out of the team. If they let Corliss just walk away into the night, it will leave a big gaping wound I don't think they'll be able to fill.
I don't think Corliss walking would be any worse than the rest of the guys we shoved off the train. At least the train isn't moving anymore; that makes for a softer landing.

I wouldn't mind seeing him here, but not for more than the vet minimum (which is kind of high for a 12-year vet), and not as a regular part of the rotation.