Bee: Ex-Kings backup guard shows he has Hart

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Note: I would generally put this in the NBA forum but because of the number of references to the Kings I'm putting it in our Kings Rap area...

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/146812.html

Ex-Kings backup guard shows that he has Hart
Jason Hart, discarded by Sacramento, is helping power the Clippers' playoff drive.
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 12:26 am PDT Friday, March 30, 2007

His favorite math teacher comes to watch, sitting in the same Staples Center seats where his family gathers, and Jason Hart -- you ready for this? -- actually plays.

He not only plays, he plays well. And he plays in his hometown, meaning his children can watch along with Mrs. Madden, who years ago helped young Jason prepare for the SATs that not only led to a Syracuse education but an NBA career that suddenly has much more than a pulse.

The true poetic justice, though, is that Hart now plays for the Clippers, who hold the eighth playoff spot the Kings so desire. Tonight, Hart returns to Sacramento with a chance to make the Kings pay for the way he feels he was mistreated before being released March 1.

Sweet revenge? Not quite, Hart said. But definitely sweet.

"Somebody else's trash is somebody else's treasure, so I'm having a blast," Hart said by phone Thursday. "It's like everything's come full circle."

The revival has taken place some 10 minutes away from where the circle began at Inglewood High School. It has been a mixture of good fortune and good play for Hart, with the change prompted by the season-ending injury to Clippers point guard Shaun Livingston and made possible only because Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie was willing to let Hart go.

But Petrie didn't just release Hart, he did it on the final day in which players could be made eligible for a playoff roster. What was merely fine print back then is wholly relevant now, with Hart's presence helping the Clippers win five of their past seven games and the team working with a 1-game lead over ninth-place Golden State and a 3 1/2-game lead on the Kings.

Hart has started in 11 of 12 games since heading south, all the while re-establishing his reputation as a pesky presence on the perimeter. Averaging two steals per game since arriving, he is defending alongside some of the league's best recently and enjoying a hoops life with the sort of shot-blocking teammates (see Elton Brand) that allow him to take big chances that turn into big plays.

There have been offensive highlights, too, like the game-winning layup in Milwaukee on March 21. It was a fine capper to a solid 6-of-9 shooting night in which he finished with five steals. Hart scored a season-high 16 points Wednesday night against Houston, but he couldn't celebrate in a Clippers' defeat that left the window open ever so slightly for one last Kings playoff push.

Defense, though, is how Hart has always made his mark. And while he said he's past the situation that turned sour in Sacramento, he never understood how Kings coach Eric Musselman could preach defense so often yet hardly look Hart's way for help.

"That's one of my strengths; that's why I was in the NBA," Hart said. "When I didn't get an opportunity, I was like, Wow, I thought we were doing defense."

Less than a month ago, the seven-year veteran was on the brink of free agency with a résumé in serious need of upgrading. Two seasons had passed since he had proven himself in Charlotte, putting up career highs in points (9.5) and assists (5) but fighting the stigma that came with flourishing on a bottom-feeding team.

In his first Kings season, there were opportunities from former coach Rick Adelman but, even Hart admits, not enough good moments to count as capitalizing. In his second Kings season, he could count on one hand the times he was truly called on (13-plus minutes four times) in what Hart said became a constant test of his faith.

"He just trusted in God, man," said swingman John Salmons, a close friend of Hart's and also a spiritual man. "He came in every day, worked hard, wanted us to do well, wanted the team to win.

"He used to always come over and give me pointers for what to do at the point guard position. He was never that guy that was going to bring the team down."

Or to throw stones. While his agent, Bill Neff, publicly criticized Musselman for how he handled his client, Hart said he has no reason to dwell on the past.

"I'm over that, man," he said. "I mean, I'm mad. But I don't have anything good to say, so I'm not going to say anything at all."

About the writer: The Bee's Sam Amick can be reached at samick@sacbee.com.

 
#2
Well, I'm not ready to eat crow yet, but Jason has surprised me a bit so far. I still don't think he's going to keep this up for long, but things have been going really well for him with the Clips. And it seems he's got some class, which I wouldn't ever say about his agent.

Let's see how his defence will help him when Bibby takes him to school tonight and how his newfound offensive ski11z will...

Oh snap, he's going to explode for 30, isn't he? :(

At least I hope that Clippers' GM Whoever Z. Nobody has at least sent Petrie a crate of champagne for this huge favour he got this time?
 
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Well, I'm not ready to eat crow yet, but Jason has surprised me a bit so far. I still don't think he's going to keep this up for long, but things have been going really well for him with the Clips. And it seems he's got some class, which I wouldn't ever say about his agent.

Let's see how his defence will help him when Bibby takes him to school tonight and how his newfound offensive ski11z will...

Oh snap, he's going to explode for 30, isn't he? :(

At least I hope that Clippers' GM Whoever Z. Nobody has at least sent Petrie a crate of champagne for this huge favour he got this time?

YUP!!!! :p


This is yet another dagger in Muss's Kings' head coach gig. 3 of his 4 defense players are bench guys (Cisco, Hart, Salmons), with only Artest starting. This coming from the huge defensive beast we were looking to become! :rolleyes:
 

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Sorry, but I'm not joining the Hart fan club any time soon. The fact he's doing well with the Clippers is nice and all but I saw enough of him during his time here to decide that he just wasn't very good for us.

Or to throw stones. While his agent, Bill Neff, publicly criticized Musselman for how he handled his client, Hart said he has no reason to dwell on the past.

"I'm over that, man," he said. "I mean, I'm mad. But I don't have anything good to say, so I'm not going to say anything at all."
And this? Talk about whining... Message to Jason Hart:

Dude, it's over. Petrie did you a big favor. He could have just let you sit and rot - which is probably what I would have done. You're mad about what happened in Sacramento? Good grief. Get a grip. You should be thanking Sacramento for letting you loose so you could sign with the Clippers. They were under NO obligation to do so, especially after all the crap your agent spewed.
 
#5
Why should Hart be mad? The Kings let him go to a team he wanted to go to mid-season with no return on the deal. He should be just be glad he is not Ronnie Prices's towel-boy anymore; he very well could be if the Kings had not done him a big favor.
 
#6
Well we never really gave him a chance so we couldnt really know if he was good or not, i guess we have to waive people and wait for other teams to sign them to know how good they actually are.
 
#7
I think Hart's biggest problem was not being Bibby. Bibby gets the bulk of the minutes at PG, it's less negotiable than any other decision. That meant when Hart came in Bibby was usually off the court and a less talented (but not untalented ) player who didn't see a lot of playing time was taking over for a stalwart.

Hart wouldn't have been picked up by the Kings if they didn't see an upside to him. I've always believed the problem with Hart was about mismatch with the team and not about his skills.
 

Bricklayer

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The thing is, Jason Hart actually played well for us too in his VERY limited minutes this year.

What he did was suck miserably for most of last year, and really because of that he was never in the plans this year. And I almost do have to wonder if maybe Jason's agent didn't have it right -- that there wasn't some sort of direction from above about his status. Seems like Muss would have desperately clung on to any defender he could find, and I'm not sure why he would have had any preconceived notions about Jason. Regardless this is a shrug. Jason Hart wasn't the answer for us and wasn't going to turn anything around for us. Its nice to see him do well, and in fact he has done so well that he may have managed to get himself another guaranteed contract from somebody next year. So a nice save, and he certainly took advantage of his opportunity (which is why he was asking for his release earlier this year). But its really neither here nor there for us.
 
#9
Hart always seemed like a bad decision maker to me; that is, was, and will always be the one factor that determines if a Kings point guard gets big time playing time or not. I attribute a lot of the J-Will trade to J-Will's poor decision making on the court.
 
#11
Waiving Hart looks like it was the best decision we made all year as far as lottery positioning. He's helping the team more, now that he's not on the team, than when he was. And where were the Kings future PG's tonight, the guys who supposedly beat out Hart in practice?
 

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The phenomena of having a traded or released player come back and perform admirably against the team they think wronged them is not new.

ANY respect I had for Jason Hart (and there wasn't that much to begin with) left with his comment about the Kings not making the playoffs. The guy was turnover prone, he was shoot happy and he didn't impress me in any way. His agent was a total jerk and still, after all that, MSE was pretty decent in letting him go so he could sign with LAC and resurrect his career. He wants to keep taking potshots at the Kings over this? And his former teammates, who didn't do anything to him? Hey, class shows and I don't see any around Hart.
 
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The phenomena of having a traded or released player come back and perform admirably against the team they think wronged them is not new.

ANY respect I had for Jason Hart (and there wasn't that much to begin with) left with his comment about the Kings not making the playoffs. The guy was turnover prone, he was shoot happy and he didn't impress me in any way. His agent was a total jerk and still, after all that, MSE was pretty decent in letting him go so he could sign with LAC and resurrect his career. He wants to keep taking potshots at the Kings over this? And his former teammates, who didn't do anything to him? Hey, class shows and I don't see any around Hart.
Exactly. How could he say that about his former teammates? The guys who he was supposedly "friends" with. With friends like Hart, who needs enemies? He's throwing all the players who supported him here under the bus.
 
#14
Letting Hart go was a good move. but the fact that hes been the ultimate drive for the Clippers playoff push shows why this franchise is everything and anything but cursed.

Let Kenny Thomas go and watch how he explodes.
 

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Letting Hart go was a good move. but the fact that hes been the ultimate drive for the Clippers playoff push shows why this franchise is everything and anything but cursed.

Let Kenny Thomas go and watch how he explodes.
Having Hart be the ultimate drive for the Clippers playoff push helps us more than it does them. They aren't going to get out of the first round, if they even end up making it to the playoffs.

And is it really necessary to make another potshot about Kenny Thomas?
 
#16
I bet Sixers fans were feeling the same way with the Webber trade. KT and Skinner were pretty much dominating for the rest of that season. But everything returned back to normal. I am sure that Hart will be back to his normal self next year.
 

Bricklayer

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Jason Hart is Jason Hart, but he played with real heart out there, and has been ever since signing with the Clips. Whatever his feelings for us, he's doing absolutely everything you could ask a scrub level player to do, and has been a nice story for them. We could have done with having a lot more people play with the hustle and purpose he showed out there tonight.
 
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VF21 said:
Having Hart be the ultimate drive for the Clippers playoff push helps us more than it does them. They aren't going to get out of the first round, if they even end up making it to the playoffs.

And is it really necessary to make another potshot about Kenny Thomas?
Helping us HOW? have you noticed we have been winning games latly even though the season is in the cross-road? the Kings are not doing themselfs any favors right now. the Clippers are showing pride and we're not. Ron is still talking about making the playoffs and Bibby is talking about playing well in the last few games to get us a chance to get in... LOTTERY? i think not.

if we wanted to loss we would... "CONSISTANTLY".
 
#19
I still don't understand the Hart hate. The Kings traded for him knowing his situation. It didn't work out and they stashed him on the bench. The organization has nothing to worry about; they'll just go on to the next player, and the next, until they find the right guy. Hart can't do that, his only option is to push for a move. It wasn't like he complained and pouted all year. It was basically the one thing with the agent and then that was it.
 
#20
Having Hart be the ultimate drive for the Clippers playoff push helps us more than it does them. They aren't going to get out of the first round, if they even end up making it to the playoffs.

And is it really necessary to make another potshot about Kenny Thomas?

Isn't there value in reaching the playoffs per se?
 
#21
Ason is a loser.

He created problems in the locker room, and as shown by his comments and actions last night (with screaming at Musselman and the Kings bench), the guy is a hack.

He's got Damon Jones syndrome.

Crappy player who thinks they're the Basketball Jesus.

Get over yourself. You couldn't outplay Douby or Price for playing time.

Only reason you're in LA is because they have a PG who can't play more then 15 min who has near back operations every time he comes out of the game and a PG who wont play for the next year.
 
#22
Well, I think this really speaks to the same criticisms we heard of Muss after his Warriors stint; immaturity, unprofessionalism, and inability to deal with players. Hart is no Corliss/Battier/Grant Hill level professional, but between he and Muss, who has the greater history of unprofessionalism?
 
#23
I still don't understand the Hart hate. The Kings traded for him knowing his situation. It didn't work out and they stashed him on the bench. The organization has nothing to worry about; they'll just go on to the next player, and the next, until they find the right guy. Hart can't do that, his only option is to push for a move. It wasn't like he complained and pouted all year. It was basically the one thing with the agent and then that was it.
I agree with you Packt. I don't get the Hart hate either. And so big deal if he says he's happy to keep us out of the playoffs. He should be. He's fighting for his new team in a playoff push where they play two games against us and are "competing" with us for the last spot. What does one expect him to say? I'm actually happy to see him do well. Especially if it means keeping us out of the playoffs! GO JASON!
 

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#24
Yeah, props to Hart...Totally overhated by Kings fans.

That was a kinda odd comment he made about wanting us to not make the playoffs, but hey...Understandable. He got no PT here, and then was released..That has to cause a certain amount of bitterness. Players take potshots at teams they feel wronged them all the time.

I say good luck to Hart. Then again I have had a morbid curiousity with little used Kings players that do good once traded ever since we lost Gerald Wallace. The next King averaging under 20 minutes a game to do good elsewhere? I say either Justin Williams or Ronnie Price, we'll know after this offseason.

Thanks for overplaying the slacker vets Muss!!!
 
#25
Ason is a loser.

He created problems in the locker room, and as shown by his comments and actions last night (with screaming at Musselman and the Kings bench), the guy is a hack.

He's got Damon Jones syndrome.

Crappy player who thinks they're the Basketball Jesus.

Get over yourself. You couldn't outplay Douby or Price for playing time.

Only reason you're in LA is because they have a PG who can't play more then 15 min who has near back operations every time he comes out of the game and a PG who wont play for the next year.
And yet Muss wasn't confident enough to match them up against Hart. It could've proved, at least for one night, that the better players were playing. Muss not playing them, kind of gives credit to the idea that they played mainly because the organization was looking for youth to develop, than play an old head like Hart.
 
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both sides of the argument are kinda silly

its not like he's playing at an all star level. he's played well, and had a good game last night. the man's a decent player but wasn't given the chance to show it here. his anger was justified. but at the same time, i dont think it was very professional to show his anger in the media. that creates more locker room problems.

just remember who we're talkng about. if he were Gilbert Arenas and we made him mad, we should be worried. but i dont see jason hart lighting us up for 40 or 50 any time soon.
 
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Clippers @ Blazers

6:50 3rd quarter

12 points (4-5 FG), 7 reb, 5 assists
 
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