Nothing Happened?

[Ryle]

Bad as Bibby has been playing...

The last thing you want is Gooden/Snow/Banks stuck on the books for another 3 years (4 or 5 in Banks case).

No thank you.

Call me crazy but I would rather have had Gooden and Snow....at least you can divide up their contracts and try and move them instead of having Bibby's deal to move. No thanks for Banks.....Hey, I made a rhyme

 

[VF21]

Call me crazy but I would rather have had Gooden and Snow....at least you can divide up their contracts and try and move them instead of having Bibby's deal to move. No thanks for Banks.....Hey, I made a rhyme

Yeah, because we're so good at doing that.

 

[nbrans]

This isn't a minor failure. Its potentially a monumental one. It could very well be the differnce this offseason between having:

#5-#8 pick, with an outside shot at #1-#3
having $10 mil in caproom to sign a big free agent

or our potential reality of having

#11-#14 pick, with almost no shot at #1-#3
having no cap room to sign anybody for more than the MLE

We get a lesser draft pick (potentially much lesser), we get a lesser free agent (likely much lesser). That is two starters who will not be in our lineup next season. Two potential stars. And so things get harder yet. It beats a bad deal...maybe. But it leaves us with even more mediocre assets, most of whom are depreciating in value almost by the week.

You may have too much confidence in this team. The Kings have one of the toughest schedules in the league for the rest of the season, and right now we're sitting in the 9th spot -- it would take some serious improvement to move up in the standings. And besides, with the way he's been playing I'm not so sure that removing Bibby from the lineup would have made the Kings worse.

And there are always draft day trades, the Kings have assets to move up.

I don't know. It sucks, I would have been excited about a deal, but it was always an uphill battle with the uncertainty of Bibby's contract situation hanging in the air. They tried, it didn't work. Oh well.

 

[ezekielbear]

Call me crazy but I would rather have had Gooden and Snow....at least you can divide up their contracts and try and move them instead of having Bibby's deal to move. No thanks for Banks.....Hey, I made a rhyme

Why would you want to pay Gooden and Snow 12 million for the next 3 years?

Gooden, eh...maybe he could be shipped off, but, he's not getting us anything of decent value.

Nobody wants Snow at 6 million a year.

I would have liked to have moved Bibby, but, not for that. Pay Bibby if you're gonna get stuck with those deals.

 

[sidney]

Call me crazy but I would rather have had Gooden and Snow....at least you can divide up their contracts and try and move them instead of having Bibby's deal to move. No thanks for Banks.....Hey, I made a rhyme

You're crazy

No way. I still think Bibby could be moved for expiring contracts without any problems. It's getting value (youth/picks) without bad contracts attached that is the trick. Hopefully this offseason.

 

[Ryle]

You're crazy

No way. I still think Bibby could be moved for expiring contracts without any problems. It's getting value (youth/picks) without bad contracts attached that is the trick. Hopefully this offseason.

So, they find someone to take Bibby and his 13.5 million due next year during the offseason and we get expiring contracts that will sit on our bench for the entire year?? Not really my idea of improving.

Sorry for posting so much today but I am extremely bitter that we are stuck with this sorry *** group of players that are calling themselves a team.

 

[Ryle]

Why would you want to pay Gooden and Snow 12 million for the next 3 years?

Gooden, eh...maybe he could be shipped off, but, he's not getting us anything of decent value.

Nobody wants Snow at 6 million a year.

I would have liked to have moved Bibby, but, not for that. Pay Bibby if you're gonna get stuck with those deals.

They both have 2 more seasons on their deals after this one....same as Bibby so it's either pay one player an ungodly(and probably unmoveable amount) or pay it to 2 players during the same span. I would think it's easier to move the smaller pieces. Just my opinion.

 

[Ryle]

Yeah, because we're so good at doing that.

Hey, we got Pot for Skinner!!!

 

[Fresno King]

I think management should have focused more on dealing Miller than Bibby. Brad looks like a statue out there.

 

[ezekielbear]

They both have 2 more seasons on their deals after this one....same as Bibby so it's either pay one player an ungodly(and probably unmoveable amount) or pay it to 2 players during the same span. I would think it's easier to move the smaller pieces. Just my opinion.

It is...if the player is any good. I'd rather give Snow's time to Price or Douby. Gooden's, KT on roids. Nothing special.

OR...

You could just have neither, and maybe have 13 million free if Bibby opts out...

I'd take the 13 million free....or just pay Bibby.

Nobody would want Gooden or Snow until their final season, and, that's why we would want them.

IMHO, that Cavs trade just delayed the Kings a year or two more.

 

[SLAB]

This just floors me. The fact that nothing was able to be agreed upon does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that they weren't trying.

Making a trade just to make a trade doesn't do any good.

It's just frustrating that nothing could piece together.

And as Brick said, we're still just mediocre enough not to be bad, and we may end up not even having a shot at any of the top prospects...

Just frustration talking, nothing more.

 

[Bricklayer]

They both have 2 more seasons on their deals after this one....same as Bibby so it's either pay one player an ungodly(and probably unmoveable amount) or pay it to 2 players during the same span. I would think it's easier to move the smaller pieces. Just my opinion.

No, that's the thoroughly debunked "flexibility" theory again. There is no "flexibility" in medicore players. Better to have the one big one, as long as he stays healthy.

 

[Fresno King]

With the way things are looking, the Maloofs had better be prepared to go over the luxury tax if they want to win now instead of waiting to groom young guys.

No-one's been biting on our high priced guys.

No-one's been remotely interested in taking on Thomas' contract.

It takes two to tango. I'm confident Petrie gave it his best shot. He may look like a genius by NOT pulling the trigger on a deal when all is said and done.

 

[Vlade4GM]

This just floors me. The fact that nothing was able to be agreed upon does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that they weren't trying.

Making a trade just to make a trade doesn't do any good.

yea and there's also shades of grey, trying or not trying isn't the point. it's how hard were they trying and the answer to that obviously wasn't hard enough. it's obvious both cleveland and miami wanted him, but apparently petrie overvalued bibby.

 

[Vlade4GM]

This pretty much says that there wasn't anything worth taking on the table. I wouldn't see it as management not really doing anything per se. I would rather nothing happen than just a meaningless movement of players - a my junk for your junk sort of trade.

you assume the FO actually reasonably valued bibby, you don't know that. you trust these morons too much.

 

[Vlade4GM]

This isn't a minor failure. Its potentially a monumental one. It could very well be the differnce this offseason between having:

#5-#8 pick, with an outside shot at #1-#3
having $10 mil in caproom to sign a big free agent

or our potential reality of having

#11-#14 pick, with almost no shot at #1-#3
having no cap room to sign anybody for more than the MLE

We get a lesser draft pick (potentially much lesser), we get a lesser free agent (likely much lesser). That is two starters who will not be in our lineup next season. Two potential stars. And so things get harder yet. It beats a bad deal...maybe. But it leaves us with even more mediocre assets, most of whom are depreciating in value almost by the week.

that is the straight up truth right there, i don't care about trying and almosts, they FAILED. i'm tired of waiting for nothing, this management is bogus and clueless about how to reformat a team. long term mediocrity is a guaruntee guys, expect years of no contention.

 

[crutonimo]

On the bright side

No big names got traded at the trade deadline....But, I would imagine they are all still on the block for the offseason, or for next year..

By not making a trade now, all of the pieces that the Kings need to trade will be more desirable next year. They will all have less years/money on their remaining contracts.

If the choices were trading Bibby now for a less than desirable package, or waiting til the offseason/next season and trading him when his value is higher (less money/years, and a chance to ressurect his game in the meantime) I dont think the management dropped the ball by not making a move..

By not trading Bibby the Kings probably wont have as high of a draft pick this year. This is bad if all of the big names come out (Oden, Durant, etc..) If they dont come out then we have a chance to tank next season to get them. If we did tank this year, and they DID NOT come out, It would be devestating for the Kings ( see the Celtics)

By not trading Bibby ,we wont be big players in this years Free Agent market....If I am not mistaken isnt this going to be a really weak free agent off season?

It looks like the rebuilding process is going to involve another less than stellar next year, but all is not lost....Atleast we will get to sweat all the potential trades of big name players next year.

 

[Vlade4GM]

No big names got traded at the trade deadline....But, I would imagine they are all still on the block for the offseason, or for next year..

By not making a trade now, all of the pieces that the Kings need to trade will be more desirable next year. They will all have one less year on their remaining contracts.

If the choices were trading Bibby now for a less than desirable package, or waiting til the offseason/next season and trading him when his value is higher (less money/years, and a chance to ressurect his game in the meantime) I dont think the management dropped the ball by not making a move..

By not trading Bibby the Kings probably wont have as high of a draft pick this year. This is bad if all of the big names come out (Oden, Durant, etc..) If they dont come out then we have a chance to tank next season to get them. If we did tank this year, and they DID NOT come out, It would be devestating for the Kings ( see the Celtics)

By not trading Bibby ,we wont be big players in this years Free Agent market....If I am not mistaken isnt this going to be a really weak free agent off season?

how do you figured bibby and artest's trade values rise by next year?