This is the unofficial Rehire Rick Adleman petitiion. Sign here.

Miles and Miles

Miles and Miles

G-League
#1
#1
We were wrong Rick. I admit it. I was on the Fire Adleman bandwagon. After you were gone I wasn't really on board with hiring Muss, but I went with it. I was positive. I thought the change would be great. I thought "OK this young guy will come it with his new ideas and his work ethic and really get things going." The team looks out of control. Muss looks like he is about to cry or crack. He is completely overwhelmed. We need you back Rick to restore order.

Sign here if you are on board to find out what Rick Adleman's asking price is. We aren't going to be able to trade every single player (look at the contracts) so this is the best option, in my opinion.

Go Kings.
 
Warhawk

Warhawk

Give blood and save a life!
Staff member
#5
#5
Ryle said:
People living in the past....gotta love it.

Maybe we should bring back Vlade, Chris, Doug and JB??? :rolleyes:
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Bringing back a coach is nothing like bringing back a player. Physical skills aren't that prominent in coaching.... :rolleyes: And it has been done before. See Nellie at GS for the most recent example.
 
Oskor

Oskor

Bench
#6
#6
Warhawk said:
Bringing back a coach is nothing like bringing back a player. Physical skills aren't that prominent in coaching.... :rolleyes: And it has been done before. See Nellie at GS for the most recent example.
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Dang stright Warhawk.

But we need to keep Muss for a few more months until we secure that top 3 draft pick. Then it's time to resign Rick... if he'll take us back.
 
Jerryaki

Jerryaki

Starter
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#7
a world of difference between what we have as a coaching staff now, and a 700+ win coach.

if we brought back vlade, webb, doug, and JB, and rick, i'm willing to bet our record would be better than it is now.
 
nbrans

nbrans

All-Star
#10
#10
Not until this team has is ready to actually compete again. But yeah, I really liked Adelman and would love to see him coaching again.
 
Miles and Miles

Miles and Miles

G-League
#11
#11
nbrans said:
Not until this team has is ready to actually compete again. But yeah, I really liked Adelman and would love to see him coaching again.
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Basically this same team was "ready to compete" last year. They at least had some pride and cared about winning. The current mentality of the team is not to care. That in addition to the complete loss of focus in certain quarters when a win seems to be in hand shows me there is a coaching problem. The only player that seems to be flurishing in this coaching is Corliss. I think Kevin Martin is playing well this year just because of natural progression.
 
Padrino

Padrino

All-Star
#12
#12
Miles and Miles said:
Basically this same team was "ready to compete" last year. They at least had some pride and cared about winning. The current mentality of the team is not to care. That in addition to the complete loss of focus in certain quarters when a win seems to be in hand shows me there is a coaching problem. The only player that seems to be flurishing in this coaching is Corliss. I think Kevin Martin is playing well this year just because of natural progression.
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think how much better he would be under adelman and co. :eek:
 
I

ImAKing

Bench
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#15
Smills91 said:
Money talks, and the Maloofs are loaded.
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yea thats the only thing RA would be back for.

in some recent newspaper, RA is very happy to be home in Portland with his family. hes seeking a job in the front office with the Blazers. i have high doubt that RA will be back here.
 
VF21

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#16
#16
Ryle said:
People living in the past....gotta love it.

Maybe we should bring back Vlade, Chris, Doug and JB??? :rolleyes:
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You do realize that every positive comment about Rick Adelman isn't a personal insult to you, your family, your honor, etc., right?

This is actually becoming so predictable it's humorous. EVERY single time I see a positive comment about how Adelman might have done better in the current situation I start a mental poll on how long it will be before you have to jump in and rebut it.

Ryle - Face it. The majority of Kings fans are now second-guessing the decision to let Adelman walk. And they will most likely continue to second-guess and even regret it until a team wearing the uniform of the Sacramento Kings starts to do good again.

You were the most active anti-Adelman person on this board. You pretty much insisted things would be much better without him. Well, they aren't... Maybe if you hadn't been so adamant then you wouldn't feel the need to be so defensive now?

Yes, there are a lot of factors working to contribute to the general suckitude of the Kings, but one of them is the guy making the $$$ to be their head coach. As quick as you were to always point the finger of blame at Adelman, it's truly amazing how you can refrain from pointing that same finger at his successor. (oh, look. A pun... "suck" cessor.)

;)
 
VF21

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#17
#17
Smills91 said:
Money talks, and the Maloofs are loaded.
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Totally irrelevant in this situation. Adelman doesn't need to chase the $$$. It's not what he's about - and it never has been. Believe what has been printed about Adelman's preferences and intentions. He's not going to return to Sacramento. For him, it's a "been there, done that" situation. He was treated shabbily by the owners, and for a man like Adelman, that says a lot more than their money...
 
91sickness

91sickness

Bench
#18
#18
Amazing LA won a lot with phil as coach and then he left and they were lame and all the sudden with Phil back and arguably the same players they are winning again. Dont get me wrong i am definitly not saying Adleman is on the same level as Phil Jackson, but with a little roster work and a coach who has the experience and leadership needed to coach this team, i think we would see a significant improvement.
 
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Smills91

Starter
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#19
91sickness said:
Amazing LA won a lot with phil as coach and then he left and they were lame and all the sudden with Phil back and arguably the same players they are winning again. Dont get me wrong i am definitly not saying Adleman is on the same level as Phil Jackson, but with a little roster work and a coach who has the experience and leadership needed to coach this team, i think we would see a significant improvement.
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I'd say he is...Adelman is an elite coach in the NBA.
 
R

rings4Kings

G-League
#20
#20
This is so funny to me, six months ago we where reading threads about what a bum RA was. Now were plotting a way to get him back. I admit, I'm not overly impressed with Muss up to this point. He hasn't wowed anyone, but I think we have to give him more time. I'm with VF on this one there is no way he is going to return, nor should he. The RA ship has sailed. I wish him luck and thank him for the eight years he gave us!
 
T

Troy

Starter
#21
#21
Oskor said:
Dang stright Warhawk.

But we need to keep Muss for a few more months until we secure that top 3 draft pick. Then it's time to resign Rick... if he'll take us back.
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Muss is just going to say that he got a pile of players that he didn't pick etc etc. Especially with our "Defensive" strategy which is non existent, we haven't made any moves in the offseason or now to bring new people in and old people out.

Adelman is one of the rare coaches with a good record and brought us 8 straight playoff appearances.

Muss is a student of the game, many times the real world doesn't quite translate to how it looks in the classroom! ;)
 
VF21

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#23
#23
Hello? This is a message from reality...

Rick Adelman is not going to come back. Chris Webber, Doug Christie, Bonzi Wells, Peja Stojakovic and/or Vlade Divac are not going to come back.

We can wish, hope, pray, etc. but it's not gonna happen. Why? For one very good irrefutable reason: For Rick Adelman to return to the Sacramento Kings would mean Joe and Gavin and the rest of the Maloofs would have to admit they made a mistake. AND they would have to be so persuasive and sincere that Adelman would be able to get past the real and perceived insults he suffered at their hands. I cannot even begin to imagine a scenario under which that would happen. Ever...
 
Miles and Miles

Miles and Miles

G-League
#24
#24
VF21 said:
Hello? This is a message from reality...

Rick Adelman is not going to come back. Chris Webber, Doug Christie, Bonzi Wells, Peja Stojakovic and/or Vlade Divac are not going to come back.

We can wish, hope, pray, etc. but it's not gonna happen. Why? For one very good irrefutable reason: For Rick Adelman to return to the Sacramento Kings would mean Joe and Gavin and the rest of the Maloofs would have to admit they made a mistake. AND they would have to be so persuasive and sincere that Adelman would be able to get past the real and perceived insults he suffered at their hands. I cannot even begin to imagine a scenario under which that would happen. Ever...
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They ARE going to admit they made a mistake when the have to fire Muss. The second mistake was after they let Adleman go they should have went with Don Nelson or someone else.
 
VF21

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
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#25
They won't admit they made a mistake in letting Adelman go. It won't happen... And they won't fire Musselman in the foreseeable future IMHO. If and when they do it will be without admitting any kind of mistake; it will be a simple statement that things didn't work out, that they want to try a different approach, etc.

I'd put money on this and I'm not a betting person.
 
AleksandarN

AleksandarN

Starter
#26
#26
I do not think letting Rick go a mistake his time was up. We had a great run we needed to go in another direction(focus more on defense). The mistake was in hiring Muss. He obviousily not the right coach.
 
VF21

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#27
#27
And that, whether one agrees with it or not, will be the approach taken by Maloof Sports & Entertainment when/if they fire Musselman...
 
LPKingsFan

LPKingsFan

All-Star
#28
#28
VF21 said:
Hello? This is a message from reality...

Rick Adelman is not going to come back. Chris Webber, Doug Christie, Bonzi Wells, Peja Stojakovic and/or Vlade Divac are not going to come back.
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In the hopes of pushing this thread in a constructive direction, any way we can get Vlade on hand to tutor our lottery big man next season?
 
Miles and Miles

Miles and Miles

G-League
#30
#30
VF21 said:
They won't admit they made a mistake in letting Adelman go. It won't happen... And they won't fire Musselman in the foreseeable future IMHO. If and when they do it will be without admitting any kind of mistake; it will be a simple statement that things didn't work out, that they want to try a different approach, etc.

I'd put money on this and I'm not a betting person.
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I wasn't say they would issue a statement that "Muss was a mistake" or anything like that. I just think firing him is the same as admiting a mistake.
 
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