LA Times - Artest Deal Could be Done Soon

DocHolliday

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The way I've heard it all is The Clippers came to the Kings asking about Artest. The Kings didn't go to the Clippers. The Clippers are the one's that HAVE to move a guy, not the Kings. The Clippers tried to get Artest last year as well.

I want to keep Artest personally. I see no problem with Chemistry on the court, and that's what I really care about.
 
pdxKingsFan

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kennadog said:
And who has a better track record of getting along with his teammates? IF, big IF, there is a problem between Ron and Mike, I'd be more likely to think Ron is the source of the problem. However, we really have no idea what is going on.
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I agree that we don't have any idea what (if anything) is actually going on. I am pretty sure this is all the Clippers and their wishful thinking (and either trying to inflate Maggette's trade value or establish/deflate Artest's down the road).

My original point was just that I don't agree with the concept of pushing the better talent out the door based on the other guy's history with the team. Judge them both on their own merits and what they can bring the team going forward. I've always liked Bibby and if he is able to contribute again I'm all for keeping him here. Tonight was a good start. I also made a little mental note of his comments in the little AI/getting traded segment and maybe that means he won't opt out and hold out for a max contract at the end of the season. I'd love to keep him at a reasonable price.
 
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I don't know if the Mike/Ron thing is really that bad. They hooked up a couple times tonight where Ron got Mike his first jumpshot, Mike gave Ron I think 2 nice layups, and they did the typical thing where you point to the guy/slap hands who got the assist on the basket. If they both play like they did tonight(Ron really in the first half) then I think whatever problem there is will go away. It's probably more like they were just frustrated with their performances so far.
 
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DocHolliday said:
The way I've heard it all is The Clippers came to the Kings asking about Artest. The Kings didn't go to the Clippers. The Clippers are the one's that HAVE to move a guy, not the Kings. The Clippers tried to get Artest last year as well.

I want to keep Artest personally. I see no problem with Chemistry on the court, and that's what I really care about.
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I completely agree with you, I wouldn't exactly want to trade Artest either, I mean he saved us last year when he came here, last thing we need is Maggette, he's not even close to what Artest is. Wth are the Clippers thinking....:mad:
 
BawLa

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Rockmeister said:
This could be the reason Bibby's shooting percentage is so low. Maybe he knows he's being shopped around.
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Umm, no. You didn't even have to watch the games to know bibby hasn't been shooting well since the first game. Just look at the box scores. He has been throwing up bricks, and a ton of 'em, since day one.

I have thoughts that bibby might be of the minority that is yearning for the old ball which will be coming back after the new year. So we shall see soon. And supposedly he is having off court issues but I don't know how much validity there is to those rumors.
 
Elise10

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pdxKingsFan said:
Unless that "something" is Bibby and Artest's relationship. Which has been widely speculated for a few weeks now and to a certain extent that speculation dates back to the day we acquired Artest.
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I don't see how it could date back to when we acquired Ron because Ron has spoke often about how Mike called him after the suspension to tell him that he should be playing for Sac
 
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I agree with Elise I think alot of ppl are reaching for straws here. Like a calcium build up on a broken bone. Ron nor Mike has said anything to the such and in fact the seem to be fine on the court and as far as last year they were seen eating dinner together on several occasions. So lets not build this any higher than it is with false comments and speculations. Let it simmer for a bit and see how it taste.
 
Rockmeister

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BawLa said:
Umm, no. You didn't even have to watch the games to know bibby hasn't been shooting well since the first game. Just look at the box scores. He has been throwing up bricks, and a ton of 'em, since day one.
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I said "maybe" doesn't mean I "know" that's the reason. There could be a couple of factors why Bibby shooting percentage is low. Could be his wrist/thumb is still bothering him. Could be he knows he's been shopped around. I'm just guessing like everyone else.
 
DaMan

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I am hearing on fox sports radio and most likely already said that the deal will happen but only after the Kings-clipper game on friday, for the simiple reason that they don't want to see artest play them.
 
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DaMan said:
I am hearing on fox sports radio and most likely already said that the deal will happen but only after the Kings-clipper game on friday, for the simiple reason that they don't want to see artest play them.
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Hmmm... Fox Radio... broadcasting from LA.

I wouldn't put it past the Clippers to try to just get in Artest's head before the game on Friday by "leaking" information to the LA press.
 
DaMan

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Cal-Kings said:
Hmmm... Fox Radio... broadcasting from LA.

I wouldn't put it past the Clippers to try to just get in Artest's head before the game on Friday by "leaking" information to the LA press.
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Even George Sodon who does work for Fox Radio but does work for the Heat in Miami and usually knows the going around in NBA said it may occur. And also add that it has been said on the four letter network and both local newspapers leads me to believe this may be a true rumor.

And i really doubt that the clippers control the local newspaper if so there would be no negtive news about the clippers what so ever in the last 20 years.
 
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SacKings384

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Being a Kings fan I will say one thing... I will never believe any trade rumors... Until I see a GM come out and say the deal is done. There have been too many trade rumors revolved around the Kings for me to really believe anything.
 
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DaMan said:
Even George Sodon who does work for Fox Radio but does work for the Heat in Miami and usually knows the going around in NBA said it may occur. And also add that it has been said on the four letter network and both local newspapers leads me to believe this may be a true rumor.

And i really doubt that the clippers control the local newspaper if so there would be no negtive news about the clippers what so ever in the last 20 years.
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You don't have to "control a newspaper" to leak a hot story with hints that it's true.

Any news agency will hop on it.
 
pdxKingsFan

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Elise10 said:
I don't see how it could date back to when we acquired Ron because Ron has spoke often about how Mike called him after the suspension to tell him that he should be playing for Sac
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I've written this trade off as Clippers wishful thinking, and I am not sure I but the Bibby and Ron hate each other meme either but I do remember that when Ron was traded to the team the pundits were predicting that they would clash despite what both were saying publically. Bibby even took Ron out to dinner his first night here if I remember. Like I said, I'm just not sure what to believe, but there have been pundits saying they won't or don't like each other from day one. I think most of those talking heads are completely full of it but the truth is they have better access to the players than I ever will.
 
Bricklayer

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Cal-Kings said:
Also, I can't imagine a planet where Petrie would trade a player of Ron's calibre to a division rival. It just isn't done.
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In Ron's particular case it could be a stroke of brilliance -- like hot potato, and so you quickly pass the ticking potato to somebody you are comepteing with. Or is it ticking meteor? I get so confused.
 
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HndsmCelt

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Bricklayer said:
In Ron's particular case it could be a stroke of brilliance -- like hot potato, and so you they to quickly pass the ticking potato to somebody you are comepteing with. Or is it ticking meteor? I get so confused.
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You have a poing there. If Ron is unhapy being on a loosing team with Mike Bibby then he will be MISERABLE on a WORSE team loosing MORE games with Sam and Cat.
 
pdxKingsFan

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Ron probably would be more likely to blow up in LA with the Clips than he would be here. Not to mention despite our recent struggles I do believe the Maloofs have shown a commitment to winning, I don't think that is the case with Sterling.
 
Kingzrool

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Motaman said:
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/9894717/rss

there you go. looks like it won't go down.
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Any artical with "Evasive Petrie" in the title is not decisive news! ;)

BTW Orlando will not trade Turkoglu for Artest. Just in case you were wondering :rolleyes: . Had a good laugh at this.

"Smith said he would not have had any interest in dealing F Hedo Turkoglu for Artest. Their salaries come close to matching. Turkoglu played his first three NBA seasons with Kings.

The Kings, according to the Los Angeles Times, are trying to trade Artest to the L.A. Clippers for former Magic F Corey Maggette."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-mnotes2806dec28,0,478540.story
 
Elise10

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Bricklayer said:
In Ron's particular case it could be a stroke of brilliance -- like hot potato, and so you quickly pass the ticking potato to somebody you are comepteing with. Or is it ticking meteor? I get so confused.
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It's the egg that supposed to look like a meteor according to the hen that oodled it.
 
Elise10

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I'm not even sure if they are sure anymore:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baske...361.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-clippe
CLIPPERS REPORT
Team is still waiting to hear from the Kings about Artest

By Jason Reid, Times Staff Writer
December 28, 2006


The Clippers would prefer to trade Corey Maggette to the Sacramento Kings for Ron Artest, but they're not waiting by the phone.

The Kings contacted the Clippers last Friday to gauge the Clippers' interest in acquiring Artest, but as of Wednesday night had not made a formal trade proposal, Clippers sources said.

So the Clippers continued to consider potential deals with other teams involving Maggette, who is expected to be traded somewhere soon because of his poor relationship with Coach Mike Dunleavy.

Other than a potential Artest-Maggette deal, the Clippers haven't been overwhelmed with the players teams have proposed offering for Maggette, who averaged at least 20 points a game in the 2003-04 and 2004-05 seasons.

The Clippers could have acquired a first-round pick for Maggette in the last draft but weren't interested because that draft wasn't considered as strong or deep as the 2007 draft.

If the Clippers were only building for the future, they might move Maggette for some of the young players teams have supposedly made available in exchange for the seven-year veteran.

The Clippers, however, are focused on the present.

Despite their disappointing 12-16 start, the Clippers said they still expect to qualify for the Western Conference playoffs.

The Clippers want a productive veteran for Maggette, preferably an efficient long-range shooter who has a high basketball IQ. But is Maggette's trade value high enough to help the Clippers acquire a difference-maker?

Maggette was the centerpiece of the Clippers' offer for Allen Iverson, who Philadelphia traded to Denver. Maggette alone, so far, apparently isn't enough for the Clippers to get Artest from Sacramento.

The Clippers top decision-makers are in agreement that it's time to trade Maggette. What's still unclear is where he's headed.
 
DaMan

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Elise10 said:
I'm not even sure if they are sure anymore:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baske...361.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-clippe
CLIPPERS REPORT
Team is still waiting to hear from the Kings about Artest

By Jason Reid, Times Staff Writer
December 28, 2006


The Clippers would prefer to trade Corey Maggette to the Sacramento Kings for Ron Artest, but they're not waiting by the phone.

The Kings contacted the Clippers last Friday to gauge the Clippers' interest in acquiring Artest, but as of Wednesday night had not made a formal trade proposal, Clippers sources said.

So the Clippers continued to consider potential deals with other teams involving Maggette, who is expected to be traded somewhere soon because of his poor relationship with Coach Mike Dunleavy.

Other than a potential Artest-Maggette deal, the Clippers haven't been overwhelmed with the players teams have proposed offering for Maggette, who averaged at least 20 points a game in the 2003-04 and 2004-05 seasons.

The Clippers could have acquired a first-round pick for Maggette in the last draft but weren't interested because that draft wasn't considered as strong or deep as the 2007 draft.

If the Clippers were only building for the future, they might move Maggette for some of the young players teams have supposedly made available in exchange for the seven-year veteran.

The Clippers, however, are focused on the present.

Despite their disappointing 12-16 start, the Clippers said they still expect to qualify for the Western Conference playoffs.

The Clippers want a productive veteran for Maggette, preferably an efficient long-range shooter who has a high basketball IQ. But is Maggette's trade value high enough to help the Clippers acquire a difference-maker?

Maggette was the centerpiece of the Clippers' offer for Allen Iverson, who Philadelphia traded to Denver. Maggette alone, so far, apparently isn't enough for the Clippers to get Artest from Sacramento.

The Clippers top decision-makers are in agreement that it's time to trade Maggette. What's still unclear is where he's headed.
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It looks like the kings are the ones asking but they want more then Maggete, it could be a mulite player trade if it occurs.
 
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