All things Woods ...updated (merged)
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The Raptors last year desperately needed rebounding and shotblocking. They had Loren Woods, and they didn't play him.
That's all anyone needs to know because it says so much.
That and, oh yeah, Araujo constantly beat him for playing time with the Raptors. RAFAEL ARAUJO! This guy can't play. Great size, weight and good athleticism, which is nice and all. But it's useless because he doesn't have the skills to back it up.
That's all anyone needs to know because it says so much.
That and, oh yeah, Araujo constantly beat him for playing time with the Raptors. RAFAEL ARAUJO! This guy can't play. Great size, weight and good athleticism, which is nice and all. But it's useless because he doesn't have the skills to back it up.
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Gooden? No, we don't need that guy. We don't need this guy and his 5-6 year 50-60 million dollar requests for a player similar, and, IMO, not as good as Kenny Thomas overall.
Agreed. It's a pretty good possibility. If Muss/Artest/Arco crowd can't get this guy going, then he'll be forgotten about.
Indeed.
^^^^Gotta agree with you there, Ryle.
Agreed. It's a pretty good possibility. If Muss/Artest/Arco crowd can't get this guy going, then he'll be forgotten about.
Indeed.
^^^^Gotta agree with you there, Ryle.
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I don't think the two are relevant yet.
Williams isn't really an NBA center yet, unless we go small. Williams is 6'9" 220-225 (last we know), have even seen him being at 210-215. It's one of those ranges anyways, and he would probably need to add some mass to his frame to be the back-up center or a regular-playing center. We don't know what he's doing this off-season, but I'd assume he'll have some added mass to his upper body. Which his frame suggests he can.
Aside from all that, he's likely to be a third big man on the team if he makes it. Back-up center? That's a stretch right now, and really uncertain in general. The roster situation has to be more clear and situated before that can be discussed legitimately. Which I would think would come around in October. Considering there is all this month left, plus just about all of September for stuff to be done with the roster.
But, if I had to choose between one of them for a spot on the roster, I'd take Williams. I feel he's gonna be a solid big man at least in the league, and think he'll ultimately be better than Loren Woods.
If it's a roster spot Woods will be fighting for in camp? That still isn't quite clear. Two reports so far suggest Woods is getting a one-year guaranteed money deal. While Grant thinks or says Woods deal is a non-guaranteed deal.
So, the reports are indeed conflicting, I'll take the aforementioned two reports over Grant.
Williams isn't really an NBA center yet, unless we go small. Williams is 6'9" 220-225 (last we know), have even seen him being at 210-215. It's one of those ranges anyways, and he would probably need to add some mass to his frame to be the back-up center or a regular-playing center. We don't know what he's doing this off-season, but I'd assume he'll have some added mass to his upper body. Which his frame suggests he can.
Aside from all that, he's likely to be a third big man on the team if he makes it. Back-up center? That's a stretch right now, and really uncertain in general. The roster situation has to be more clear and situated before that can be discussed legitimately. Which I would think would come around in October. Considering there is all this month left, plus just about all of September for stuff to be done with the roster.
But, if I had to choose between one of them for a spot on the roster, I'd take Williams. I feel he's gonna be a solid big man at least in the league, and think he'll ultimately be better than Loren Woods.
If it's a roster spot Woods will be fighting for in camp? That still isn't quite clear. Two reports so far suggest Woods is getting a one-year guaranteed money deal. While Grant thinks or says Woods deal is a non-guaranteed deal.
So, the reports are indeed conflicting, I'll take the aforementioned two reports over Grant.
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Hmmm IF we do sign him(not saying we will just because there hasn't been an anouncement yet) I think this means there will be another move or two where we send out our expirers+ in a 3 for 2 deal or 2 for 1 deal. We have like 17 people signed right now. Hart, Corliss, and Potapenko have guarenteed contracts so we can't waive them. Petrie and the Maloofs obviously like Amundson, Jeter, and Williams a lot. You know that going into training camp anybody who was in the top 8 of our rotation last year won't be cut. So I think Petrie will make another trade.
Actually, at this point it's simply an unconfirmed rumor of a "no risk signing"...
The only thing we've heard locally is from Sam Amick, who said Woods tried out and we should stay tuned for more information. Everything else is still pure speculation at this point.
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Anyone remember the names Courtney Alexander and David Bluthental?
I thought Loren Woods was the guy who kept dropping on draft day and ended up sitting in the green room all alone quite a while until his name was finally called...
The only thing we've heard locally is from Sam Amick, who said Woods tried out and we should stay tuned for more information. Everything else is still pure speculation at this point.
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Anyone remember the names Courtney Alexander and David Bluthental?
I thought Loren Woods was the guy who kept dropping on draft day and ended up sitting in the green room all alone quite a while until his name was finally called...
Oh give me a break the offseason's not over yet. O-Tag played pretty well for Utah and Potapenko was to get under the luxury tax. It's not like Skinner contributed for us anyway. Loren Woods has never really been given a chance and I've heard some good things about him from TO fans. It's not like it can hurt when you're only giving him a little bit of money anyway. It doesn't stop us from making other moves and it could be a precursor that more moves ARE coming. The offseason's only half over yet and Petrie doesn't usually start making moves until this time of the year anyway.
I gotta agree there. And do think if this guy is getting guaranteed money (which I'm going with for now), this should set off other moves.
Joker, you're still making us being interested in Woods way more than it actually is. You can get upset over Ostertag, Potapenko was explained. Once again, if Woods is signed to a guaranteed deal, he's just going to be a back-up center on a one-year deal. If he becomes something decent for us, cool, if not, oh well. If he's going to get a camp spot on a NGD, so what...
Joker, you're still making us being interested in Woods way more than it actually is. You can get upset over Ostertag, Potapenko was explained. Once again, if Woods is signed to a guaranteed deal, he's just going to be a back-up center on a one-year deal. If he becomes something decent for us, cool, if not, oh well. If he's going to get a camp spot on a NGD, so what...
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Ah, well I've read conflicting reports, and don't have the access to the radio there (I also have no sound on my computer temporairly). I don't live in Sacramento.
It's also nowhere on ESPN or Real GM wire-tap yet.
Still, we'll have to see how it goes in the coming days. Either way I don't see the big deal in us being interested in Woods.
It's also nowhere on ESPN or Real GM wire-tap yet.
Still, we'll have to see how it goes in the coming days. Either way I don't see the big deal in us being interested in Woods.
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http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/14295151p-15141191c.html
Kings agree to sign center Woods
By Sam Amick -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 4:30 pm PDT Saturday, August 12, 2006
Loren Woods will soon be a member of the Kings, according to his agent.
Jason Leviene, who represents the 7-2 free agent center, said his client and the Kings have agreed to contract terms on Saturday. Woods, a 5-year veteran who has played sparingly throughout his career, is expected to fly into Sacramento on Monday and the deal is expected to be finalized Tuesday.
Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie did not immediately return a call for comment.
Kings agree to sign center Woods
By Sam Amick -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 4:30 pm PDT Saturday, August 12, 2006
Loren Woods will soon be a member of the Kings, according to his agent.
Jason Leviene, who represents the 7-2 free agent center, said his client and the Kings have agreed to contract terms on Saturday. Woods, a 5-year veteran who has played sparingly throughout his career, is expected to fly into Sacramento on Monday and the deal is expected to be finalized Tuesday.
Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie did not immediately return a call for comment.
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Looks like Givony was right.
I'm fine with getting Woods. Basically a no-risk move.
Reading some more about Woods, I like him a bit more than I did before (split on him based on past suggestions around). He's thin, but really tall, long, and athletic, and think he could be something decent at least with some regular minutes. Especially with Musselman and Artest on the team to up his energy, most likely, along with the Arco crowd.
Be interesting to see what happens with Potapenko now.
I'm fine with getting Woods. Basically a no-risk move.
Reading some more about Woods, I like him a bit more than I did before (split on him based on past suggestions around). He's thin, but really tall, long, and athletic, and think he could be something decent at least with some regular minutes. Especially with Musselman and Artest on the team to up his energy, most likely, along with the Arco crowd.
Be interesting to see what happens with Potapenko now.
ok, i've got a question. a lot of geoff petrie supporters here often point out that the offseason is only half over, and that we shouldn't be getting upset because "more moves" may come.
so when is it already to get upset, or are we not supposed to at all? cuz this is looking an awful lot like last year when our big man haul consisted of...jamal sampson.
so when is it already to get upset, or are we not supposed to at all? cuz this is looking an awful lot like last year when our big man haul consisted of...jamal sampson.
At this point, I have this tiny little voice telling me that by assembling some one-year contracts, along with our expiring contracts, Petrie might be plotting something very devious - something that might just snag a certain wolf by the trade deadline if he's not happy with how the season is going...
Just a gllmmer of a thought, but who knows???
Just a gllmmer of a thought, but who knows???
What the heck is a non-guaranteed contract? I thought a contract brings both sides into a deal, so does this contract say if Woods, suck the Kings don't have to pay him? How many non-guaranteed contracts are there, is this common with undrafted rookies and players that have been out of the loop and are lucky to play on any team? How does this contract compare to what Williams and Amundson have? If Woods does good in camp can he get a guaranteed contract, is this just to see him through camp and to go from there? I'm really confused about this.
How many non-guaranteed contracts are there, is this common with undrafted rookies and players that have been out of the loop and are lucky to play on any team? How does this contract compare to what Williams and Amundson have? If Woods does good in camp can he get a guaranteed contract, is this just to see him through camp and to go from there? I'm really confused about this.