Rumor about November ballot proposition
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Let's all keep our fingers crossed that they keep at this until it's done. I would like nothing more than to see a headline on tomorrow's Bee that says ARENA PROPOSAL ON BALLOT!
You posted a rumor last week? Hey, that's wonderful.
Have you been following the articles in the Bee by any remote chance? This isn't old news and it isn't an old rumor. If you choose not to believe what I've posted, that's perfectly okay with me but you're wrong about it being old news.
And just who is Eric Hogue? NOTHING has been announced officially and may or may not actually get to that point. And I'm pretty sure IF there is an accord and a ballot measure that actually comes to pass it will be all over the news.
I'm simply sharing what I heard in the past couple of hours. Again, I can't imagine how it could possible relate to anything you posted a week ago.
Have you been following the articles in the Bee by any remote chance? This isn't old news and it isn't an old rumor. If you choose not to believe what I've posted, that's perfectly okay with me but you're wrong about it being old news.
And just who is Eric Hogue? NOTHING has been announced officially and may or may not actually get to that point. And I'm pretty sure IF there is an accord and a ballot measure that actually comes to pass it will be all over the news.
I'm simply sharing what I heard in the past couple of hours. Again, I can't imagine how it could possible relate to anything you posted a week ago.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but did anyone else hear on KCRA at 6 p.m. that they were told by county or city officials that they are feeling less than 50/50 on this making the ballot?
KCRA also reported there will be a press conference of some kind from a group of people that will argue the sales tax increase because it's unfair to low income families.
I have talked about this on a Sacramento Myspace group and many are against the proposed rumored sales tax increase. From what I could gather, they're not Kings fans and do not exactly have good paying jobs.
Some even believe the arena does not need replacing and tried to use Madison Square Garden as an example.
They would rather see the money go towards something else that would be beneficial such as water meters for all homes.
KCRA also reported there will be a press conference of some kind from a group of people that will argue the sales tax increase because it's unfair to low income families.
I have talked about this on a Sacramento Myspace group and many are against the proposed rumored sales tax increase. From what I could gather, they're not Kings fans and do not exactly have good paying jobs.
Some even believe the arena does not need replacing and tried to use Madison Square Garden as an example.
They would rather see the money go towards something else that would be beneficial such as water meters for all homes.
A sales tax increase is unfair to low income families? Low income families would barely feel it because they have little disposable income.
I just hope it makes it to the ballot so everyone can address these types of questions.
NO funding plan will ever get the approval of everyone. Let's just hope it gets a fair chance.
I just hope it makes it to the ballot so everyone can address these types of questions.
NO funding plan will ever get the approval of everyone. Let's just hope it gets a fair chance.
You might tell them that MSG was massively renovated in 1991 to the tune of $200 million. That's $200 million 16 years ago!
EDIT: Unfortunately, more than one engineer has determined that due to the lousy foundation put in for Arco, renovation of the existing arena is out of the question.
EDIT: Unfortunately, more than one engineer has determined that due to the lousy foundation put in for Arco, renovation of the existing arena is out of the question.
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There will always be those who gleefully want to be on the "doom and gloom" side of an issue.
There were lots of people who decried our excitement when Lukenbill was still in the process of bringing the Kings to Sacramento in the first place.
"It'll never get done!" they cried.
There were those who were sure the Kings would be gone when the Maloofs bought the Kings.
"They'll move them as soon as they own them," they screamed.
And now there are those who, for whatever reason, want to renounce this latest glimmer of hope before it's even clear enough to discuss.
It's not bad karma. Those people don't have any effect on the karma, IMHO.
There were lots of people who decried our excitement when Lukenbill was still in the process of bringing the Kings to Sacramento in the first place.
"It'll never get done!" they cried.
There were those who were sure the Kings would be gone when the Maloofs bought the Kings.
"They'll move them as soon as they own them," they screamed.
And now there are those who, for whatever reason, want to renounce this latest glimmer of hope before it's even clear enough to discuss.
It's not bad karma. Those people don't have any effect on the karma, IMHO.
You might tell them that MSG was massively renovated in 1991 to the tune of $200 million. That's $200 million 16 years ago!
EDIT: Unfortunately, more than one engineer has determined that due to the lousy foundation put in for Arco, renovation of the existing arena is out of the question.
EDIT: Unfortunately, more than one engineer has determined that due to the lousy foundation put in for Arco, renovation of the existing arena is out of the question.
I don't understand the particulars, but Dickinson (sp?) said they have pretty much determined that the cost will be about even whether its in Natomas or the Railyards. That's why the site has been pretty much settled in these talks.
I liked the Maloofs idea of having the arena reflect Sacramento's rail history. Of course, I like trains generally.
I liked the Maloofs idea of having the arena reflect Sacramento's rail history. Of course, I like trains generally.
You might tell them that MSG was massively renovated in 1991 to the tune of $200 million. That's $200 million 16 years ago!
EDIT: Unfortunately, more than one engineer has determined that due to the lousy foundation put in for Arco, renovation of the existing arena is out of the question.
EDIT: Unfortunately, more than one engineer has determined that due to the lousy foundation put in for Arco, renovation of the existing arena is out of the question.
Some even argued that $40 million is too much to spend. You cannot win over those voters at all.
NOTE from VF21: There were links here for articles about the funding of the new 49er stadium in San Francisco. I've split them off into their own thread because of the potential for total and complete confusion.
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Voter polls can be very misleading.
At this point, the first step has to be getting it onto the ballot. Then the work about educating the public on why they should approve the measure begins.
It won't turn on the naysayers, anyway. It will turn on whether or not the supporters are able to muster enough interest to get people off their posteriors and into the booth to vote.
At this point, the first step has to be getting it onto the ballot. Then the work about educating the public on why they should approve the measure begins.
It won't turn on the naysayers, anyway. It will turn on whether or not the supporters are able to muster enough interest to get people off their posteriors and into the booth to vote.
I think once something gets done people will be more apt to change their mind/stance. As the time narrows I hear more and more of the for side as opposed to before were it was mostly nay side.
With the real threat of the Kings leaving that may change some opinions. And like VF said its all about who comes out to vote. With the GOV election there should be a decent turnout.
With the real threat of the Kings leaving that may change some opinions. And like VF said its all about who comes out to vote. With the GOV election there should be a decent turnout.