Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade

[sactowndog]

Charity bet. Fox walks for nothing, you win, Fox doesn't walk for nothing, I win. $100

you want to give me odds since I said it was possible and not probable. I give it a 5-10% chance which is not a straight up bet.

 

[The_Jamal]

you want to give me odds since I said it was possible and not probable. I give it a 5-10% chance which is not a straight up bet.

So if it's 5-10%, why even bring it up? That's not very likely for Monte to **** something up is it? Or could you just be looking for an opportunity to dig at Monte for no reason?

I'm not giving you 10-1 on a stupid forum charity bet lol.

 

[Makaveli]

You know Fox might want to rethink this because in the last 27 years when the kings trade their best player their careers are over one way or another in just 2-3 years
Richmond, Webber, Peja, Martin, Evans, cousins, now Fox

 

[SLAB]

You know Fox might want to rethink this because in the last 27 years when the kings trade their best player their careers are over one way or another in just 2-3 years
Richmond, Webber, Peja, Martin, Evans, cousins, now Fox

That point is moot because Sabonis is our best player.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1885519270668382645

Fox isn’t a “decent role player” though

 

[Capt. Factorial]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1885519270668382645

Fox isn’t a “decent role player” though

You know who has more All Star potential than Castle?

Fox.

 

[iowamcnabb]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1885519270668382645

Fox isn’t a “decent role player” though

I think he meant that Castle is thought of by some to be just a role player type.

 

[Makaveli]

That point is moot because Sabonis is our best player.

Sabonis hasn’t been traded. Fox was best player before Sabonis.

 

[NewArena]

So six teams could be Spurs Kings Lakers Atlanta Nets and maybe Jazz. We need that trade machine to start smoking! My head hurts just thinking about it.

Ew. Just off the strength of the lakers being involved, I’d want no parts.

 

[NewArena]

That point is moot because Sabonis is our best player.

Yeah it hasn’t really been close for a while now, injury or not.

 

[Jkbiker]

Ew. Just off the strength of the lakers being involved, I’d want no parts.

I think Lakers were interested in CP3 don’t know what they would give up

 

[sactowndog]

So if it's 5-10%, why even bring it up? That's not very likely for Monte to **** something up is it? Or could you just be looking for an opportunity to dig at Monte for no reason?

I'm not giving you 10-1 on a stupid forum charity bet lol.

Because we saw the Bogi trade, we saw the Big Ragu trade, we know about the Barnes proposed trade…. It’s not like Monte has an unblemished record.

 

[NewArena]

I think Lakers were interested in CP3 don’t know what they would give up

Maybe Vanderbilt since he’s barely played for them anyhow

 

[Jkbiker]

Maybe Vanderbilt since he’s barely played for them anyhow

Yeah salary matches up with cp3
If they are part of the 6 teams it helps SA move cp3 and maybe kings can get vandy . Win win

 

[UK_King]

Just trade for as many future firsts as you can. This team is going nowhere with or without Fox and it’s been that way for years.

we had one good season largely down to the health of the other teams. And despite that still couldn’t get out of the first round.

 

[twslam07]

I got another one…

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ATL GETS: Brandon Ingram
ATL GIVES: De’Andre Hunter & Bogdan Bogdanovic
WHY FOR ATL? Get another go-to option and playmaker next to Young, or if they covet another 2025 FA, this trade gives them cap space to pursue them.

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BKN GETS: Chris Paul, Tre Jones, Trey Lyles, & Picks
BKN GIVES: Cam Johnson & Day’Ron Sharpe
WHY FOR BKN? They get expirings to open up more cap space and picks for their rebuild.

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NOP GETS: Harrison Barnes, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Kevin Huerter, Zach Collins, Jeremy Sochan, & Picks
NOP GIVES: Zion Williamson & Brandon Ingram
Why for NOP? Move on from the Zion/Ingram era and retool around Murphy, Jones, Sochan, their picks, and the cap space they’ll have in 2026 (all incoming players expire after next season except for Sochan)

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SAS GETS: De’Aaron Fox & DeMar DeRozan
SAS GIVES: Harrison Barnes, Zach Collins, Chris Paul, Tre Jones, Jeremy Sochan, & Picks
WHY FOR SAS? Get their star PG to pair with Wemby long term and get a familiar face in DeRozan to give them another secondary go-to option.

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SAC GETS: Zion Williamson, Cam Johnson, De’Andre Hunter, & Day’Ron Sharpe
SAC GIVES: De’Aaron Fox, DeMar DeRozan, Kevin Huerter, Trey Lyles, & Picks
WHY FOR SAC? They take a big swing on hoping Zion can get his health/injuries in order while also adding two very good shooters with good size & length on the wing. We also get an upgrade at backup C.

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After this trade, we’d have a rotation of…

PG - Monk / Carter / McLaughlin
SG - Ellis / Jones
SF - Murray / Hunter / McDermott
PF - Zion / Johnson / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Sharpe / Len

Monk, Ellis, Murray, Hunter, Johnson, & Sabonis is a heck of a lot of shooting around Zion, and we’d have really good forward depth to stay afloat in case Zion is battling an injury (not to mention our designated iron man and floor raiser in Sabonis to keep us competitive during the regular season). I’m sure Monk would love to have a legit lob threat in Zion to pass to and he can get out in the fast break with him as well. I’m sure a high-low game of Sabonis to Zion could be very effective as well.

Defensively is where we’d have the biggest question marks. I don’t think anyone in that rotation is a huge liability or turnstile, but we’d need to lean on Ellis, Carter, & Murray to be our stoppers/defensive playmakers with guys like Johnson, Hunter, etc. playing solid on that end of the floor.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Just trade for as many future firsts as you can. This team is going nowhere with or without Fox and it’s been that way for years.

we had one good season largely down to the health of the other teams. And despite that still couldn’t get out of the first round.

The classic we are not good now and we were never any good and we are never gunna be take. .

 

[GWD]

Quite a thread. Whoever gets the trade facts correct should be named "Swami of the KingsFans Forum". (If a trade even occurs.)

A poll with only the Kings "Who leaves / who comes" players (realistic) possibilities listed would be interesting. But no picks included to make it simple. I don't have the skills to make a poll if someone wants to try it. It would be quite a task. It is pouring rain and there is no football, so posting it would develop into a summary of the 81 pages, so far, of conjecture.

 

[Jdbraver137]

I hope we end up with Zion because the spurs garbage is just going to keep us as a mid team. With Zion it’s either a great move or tankathon

 

[Vinny Basketballerino]

Just trade for as many future firsts as you can. This team is going nowhere with or without Fox and it’s been that way for years.

we had one good season largely down to the health of the other teams. And despite that still couldn’t get out of the first round.

You're the reason we created our own country.

 

[The_Jamal]

I got another one…

————————————

ATL GETS: Brandon Ingram
ATL GIVES: De’Andre Hunter & Bogdan Bogdanovic
WHY FOR ATL? Get another go-to option and playmaker next to Young, or if they covet another 2025 FA, this trade gives them cap space to pursue them.

————————————

BKN GETS: Chris Paul, Tre Jones, Trey Lyles, & Picks
BKN GIVES: Cam Johnson & Day’Ron Sharpe
WHY FOR BKN? They get expirings to open up more cap space and picks for their rebuild.

————————————

NOP GETS: Harrison Barnes, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Kevin Huerter, Zach Collins, Jeremy Sochan, & Picks
NOP GIVES: Zion Williamson & Brandon Ingram
Why for NOP? Move on from the Zion/Ingram era and retool around Murphy, Jones, Sochan, their picks, and the cap space they’ll have in 2026 (all incoming players expire after next season except for Sochan)

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SAS GETS: De’Aaron Fox & DeMar DeRozan
SAS GIVES: Harrison Barnes, Zach Collins, Chris Paul, Tre Jones, Jeremy Sochan, & Picks
WHY FOR SAS? Get their star PG to pair with Wemby long term and get a familiar face in DeRozan to give them another secondary go-to option.

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SAC GETS: Zion Williamson, Cam Johnson, De’Andre Hunter, & Day’Ron Sharpe
SAC GIVES: De’Aaron Fox, DeMar DeRozan, Kevin Huerter, Trey Lyles, & Picks
WHY FOR SAC? They take a big swing on hoping Zion can get his health/injuries in order while also adding two very good shooters with good size & length on the wing. We also get an upgrade at backup C.

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After this trade, we’d have a rotation of…

PG - Monk / Carter / McLaughlin
SG - Ellis / Jones
SF - Murray / Hunter / McDermott
PF - Zion / Johnson / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Sharpe / Len

Monk, Ellis, Murray, Hunter, Johnson, & Sabonis is a heck of a lot of shooting around Zion, and we’d have really good forward depth to stay afloat in case Zion is battling an injury (not to mention our designated iron man and floor raiser in Sabonis to keep us competitive during the regular season). I’m sure Monk would love to have a legit lob threat in Zion to pass to and he can get out in the fast break with him as well. I’m sure a high-low game of Sabonis to Zion could be very effective as well.

Defensively is where we’d have the biggest question marks. I don’t think anyone in that rotation is a huge liability or turnstile, but we’d need to lean on Ellis, Carter, & Murray to be our stoppers/defensive playmakers with guys like Johnson, Hunter, etc. playing solid on that end of the floor.

Maybe it's just I'm so numb to this stupid team, that a Zion package is growing on me. Just go for maximum "fun" at this point.

 

[midtowner]

At least with Zion, we will have some hope. Then it will get crushed with injury. Then we will have hope again…

But someone that can be a legit top 10 player when healthy is hard to get.

 

[funkykingston]

Maybe it's just I'm so numb to this stupid team, that a Zion package is growing on me. Just go for maximum "fun" at this point.

At least with Zion, we will have some hope. Then it will get crushed with injury. Then we will have hope again…

But someone that can be a legit top 10 player when healthy is hard to get.

I'm not on the Zion train. But for those who are, the Pels losing DeJounte Murray to an achilles injury might be the final push they need to blow things up.

 

[The_Jamal]

I'm not on the Zion train. But for those who are, the Pels losing DeJounte Murray to an achilles injury might be the final push they need to blow things up.

It's not my first, second or third option, but I'd much rather roll the dice on Zion rather than retreads like Beal/LaVine/Grant/Kuzma, etc. Best case with Zion is you get a top 10 player on the cheap, as unlikely as it is he stays healthy. Best case with the Beal/LaVine tier is we're like slightly better than we are now?

 

[Light it up]

Just trade for as many future firsts as you can. This team is going nowhere with or without Fox and it’s been that way for years.

we had one good season largely down to the health of the other teams. And despite that still couldn’t get out of the first round.

I disagree. We are 3.5 games out of 5th and have been playing well. Playing well without/despite Fox. We seemed to be better with Monk running things and if we can plug in a Collins type player next to Sabonis or even a legit backup center we are a better team. I don’t buy the “we are going nowhere fast”

Also, over our next 12 games we play Portland, Utah, Charlotte, NO 3 times lol, GS and Orlando at home and an injured Dallas and Minny team. Lots of winnable games.

 

[funkykingston]

It's not my first, second or third option, but I'd much rather roll the dice on Zion rather than retreads like Beal/LaVine/Grant/Kuzma, etc. Best case with Zion is you get a top 10 player on the cheap, as unlikely as it is he stays healthy. Best case with the Beal/LaVine tier is we're like slightly better than we are now?

No, I totally get the rationale. The issue for me is that Zion isn't just injury prone, he doesn't seem to care enough to take the type of steps that could avoid future injuries. I think the odds of him staying healthy long enough to be a difference maker are very close to zero.

 

[Padrino]

No, I totally get the rationale. The issue for me is that Zion isn't just injury prone, he doesn't seem to care enough to take the type of steps that could avoid future injuries. I think the odds of him staying healthy long enough to be a difference maker are very close to zero.

Agreed. And if Kings fans are put off by Fox's inability to find the extra gear consistently, his aloofness, his ambivalence, and his low-key moodiness, they'd be in for a real treat with Zion, who just doesn't seem to care about basketball at all.

 

[OPrime]

No, I totally get the rationale. The issue for me is that Zion isn't just injury prone, he doesn't seem to care enough to take the type of steps that could avoid future injuries. I think the odds of him staying healthy long enough to be a difference maker are very close to zero.

I don’t know if it’s sustainable, but right now and over the last 6 months he has dropped a lot of weight and is in good shape. He’s still not playing much but at least has put in the effort recently. I think there’s a ‘don’t be fat’ clause in his contract as well

 

[sactowndog]

It’s embarrassing listening to national media podcasts who keep saying the Kings need a player back to replace Fox.

 

[Padrino]

It’s embarrassing listening to national media podcasts who keep saying the Kings need a player back to replace Fox.

They don't necessarily need a PG back in the trade to replace Fox in the lineup, but they will eventually need to figure out how to replace the pressure he puts on a defense, especially if they're going to continue to be a below-average three-point shooting team. Even if DDR decides he wants to stick it out with a post-Fox Kings team, he's not a long-term solution as a go-to option.