Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade
- Thread starter Tetsujin
- Start date
- Status
Agree... this thing is totally up in the air and hanging on a thread. Its fun to think about what a Fox trade could get us and how that might balance the roster to make a better team; however, there is a personal element to all of this. How does Monk react to losing his friend? Or is he OK because he gets to be the lead guard? Deebo was recruited by fox now what does he do? Who knows where Domas head is out as it seems like he wasn't happy with Brown.
I do fear that we try to piece this thing together for a year, only to find we are just an OK team, with players that aren't really committed. I can definitely see us wasting two years as a middling team trying to make the playin.
I do fear that we try to piece this thing together for a year, only to find we are just an OK team, with players that aren't really committed. I can definitely see us wasting two years as a middling team trying to make the playin.
Latest word I have found is that Fox has four "preferred destinations": San Antonio, Miami, Houston, LA Clippers. Of course, Houston has said they will pass for now, but it is Fox's home town.
https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2025/01/30/deaaron-fox-4-preferred-trade-destinations/
https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2025/01/30/deaaron-fox-4-preferred-trade-destinations/
If we trade Fox at the deadline hopefully we can still keep our push, at the end of the year just frankly ask everyone if they still want to be here. Monk, DDR, Domas - they are on fair value contracts and should net returns. Keegan, Keon, Devin, you build from there if you have to sell off those guys but you already have 3 defensive talents.
I really think we can right the ship here with the right Fox move though.
I really think we can right the ship here with the right Fox move though.
Absolutely no hard feelings towards Deebo, I actually feel sorry for him and this whole circus he's walked into. He came for such pure reasons, I really wanted him to win and become a beloved Kings legend... Speak highly of the Kings in the same way he does with Raps, Spurs and Bulls.
Can't see that happening now between Brown and this Fox drama. Must be questioning his decision
Can't see that happening now between Brown and this Fox drama. Must be questioning his decision
Ok this is two separate three team trades that are put together with Monte’s Mo in mind. Kings want win now players and picks. They favor offense. They like Lavine.
Deebo to Miami
scary Terry to Utah and one 1st from SA
Collins and JJJ to Kings
Fox to SA
Barnes, Kev and one SA first to Chicago
Lavine and 1 SA pick plus swap to Sac
Monk Carter
Ellis
Lavine Jaquez
Keegan Collins
Domas Lyles
5 shooters in the starting lineup, 2 defensive aces, 2 iso guys. Bench has size, defense and grit. If our pick conveys to Atlanta we have all our picks ‘26 and on to trade plus whatever pick we get from spurs.
Deebo to Miami
scary Terry to Utah and one 1st from SA
Collins and JJJ to Kings
Fox to SA
Barnes, Kev and one SA first to Chicago
Lavine and 1 SA pick plus swap to Sac
Monk Carter
Ellis
Lavine Jaquez
Keegan Collins
Domas Lyles
5 shooters in the starting lineup, 2 defensive aces, 2 iso guys. Bench has size, defense and grit. If our pick conveys to Atlanta we have all our picks ‘26 and on to trade plus whatever pick we get from spurs.
It's a little tricky to get too excited by a rookie with a small body of work (especially given where he was picked in his class that everyone called weak) but I think I'd take less picks back from Miami if we were able to get Ware with JJJ or Jovic. Also depends what crap they drop on us to match salaries though.
If this team ever wants to do more than "just make the playoffs" I hate everything about this.
We need to reset our chance at landing a star+ player. Have to get at least 2-3 high value picks, and a Castle, Ware, Eason/Jabari type player in our deal.
And I think hopefully we do that in time where we can then consider Kevin in a separate package that might involve one of the picks we get for one of the targets we were rumored to already have. I think we can then compete at the same level we have been (back of the playoff pack) while building the a warchest to attempt to get back to a 1-4 seed in 2-3 years. Probably means that we move on from Deebo in the offseason as well.
We need to reset our chance at landing a star+ player. Have to get at least 2-3 high value picks, and a Castle, Ware, Eason/Jabari type player in our deal.
And I think hopefully we do that in time where we can then consider Kevin in a separate package that might involve one of the picks we get for one of the targets we were rumored to already have. I think we can then compete at the same level we have been (back of the playoff pack) while building the a warchest to attempt to get back to a 1-4 seed in 2-3 years. Probably means that we move on from Deebo in the offseason as well.
Even before Fox wanted out, I felt like the Kings were unbalanced when starting Monk and Fox. Both are best with the ball in their hands, as are DDR and Sabonis. To me the solution was to move Malik back to the bench and start Ellis. The Kings have (had?) two on ball lead guards in Fox and Monk and two defensive, off ball guards in Ellis and Carter. It made sense to me to stagger their minutes as much as possible to have one of each on the court as often as possible.
Now?
You take a step back in terms of defense and scoring in having Monk as the lead guard instead of Fox, but if you can strengthen the bench I don't think the team overall will take a big step back. But that's contingent on making a deal that nets you players rather than draft capital or unproven rookies. It's why I think any deal with San Antonio has to be a three or more team deal unless you are resigned to re-tooling. And if that's the case, then you may as well trade DeRozan, though I'm not sure he has a ton of value at this point.
We'll see what Monte nets in the trade. I'm not feeling optimistic right now.
Now?
You take a step back in terms of defense and scoring in having Monk as the lead guard instead of Fox, but if you can strengthen the bench I don't think the team overall will take a big step back. But that's contingent on making a deal that nets you players rather than draft capital or unproven rookies. It's why I think any deal with San Antonio has to be a three or more team deal unless you are resigned to re-tooling. And if that's the case, then you may as well trade DeRozan, though I'm not sure he has a ton of value at this point.
We'll see what Monte nets in the trade. I'm not feeling optimistic right now.
That's why I think we need major draft capital back and at least one guy with an outside shot. This team with Fox was still supposed to be a young team with a 5-7 year window to maybe have a magic year. Taking on a player like Lavine as the major piece of the trade makes that a 2-3 year window with no realistic shot of a chip. That would be sad.
I have another trade idea…that would have us sending out both Fox AND Monk
We’d technically need to bring in a 6th team to take some really minor contracts, but the general framework of the deal would be…
——————————
BKN GETS: Duncan Robinso, Trey Lyles, & Picks
BKN GIVES: Cam Johnson
WHY FOR BKN? Get expirings and 1sts for their win now vet to help the rebuild.
——————————
MIL GETS: Bradley Beal & Picks
MIL GIVES: Khris Middleton, Bobby Portis, & Pat Connaughton
WHY FOR MIL? Get their rumored target in Beal and additional 1sts to add cheap young depth.
——————————
MIA GETS: De’Aaron Fox, Khris Middleton, Malik Monk, Bobby Portis, & Pat Connaughton
MIA GIVES: Jimmy Butler, Tyler Herro, Duncan Robinson, Kal’el Ware, Jaime Jaquez, Nikola Jovic, & Picks
WHY FOR MIA? They form the Kentucky best friend trio in Fox, Monk, & Adebayo but also get solid fits at SF (Middleton) and PF (Portis) to round out the staring unit.
——————————
PHX GETS: Jimmy Butler
PHX GIVES: Bradley Beal & Picks
WHY FOR PHX? Suns get their target and balances the roster better.
——————————
SAC GETS: Tyler Herro, Cam Johnson, Kal’el Ware, Jaime Jaquez, & Nikola Jovic
SAC GIVES: De’Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, & Trey Lyles
WHY FOR SAC? We get an offensive star back in Herro, but also don’t have to worry about trotting out a weak defensive backcourt in the starting lineup since we’re also moving Monk (allowing us to start Ellis/Carter & Herro). Johnson gives us more size, length, shooting, and defense at the wing and can be a long term replacement for DeRozan in the starting unit. We also get a few interesting prospects in Ware, Jaquez, & Jovic who help address our size & length weaknesses.
PG - Ellis / Carter / McLaughlin
SG - Herro / Jaquez / Huerter / Jones
SF - DeRozan / Johnson / McDermott
PF - Murray / Jovic / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Ware / Len
——————————
We’d technically need to bring in a 6th team to take some really minor contracts, but the general framework of the deal would be…
——————————
BKN GETS: Duncan Robinso, Trey Lyles, & Picks
BKN GIVES: Cam Johnson
WHY FOR BKN? Get expirings and 1sts for their win now vet to help the rebuild.
——————————
MIL GETS: Bradley Beal & Picks
MIL GIVES: Khris Middleton, Bobby Portis, & Pat Connaughton
WHY FOR MIL? Get their rumored target in Beal and additional 1sts to add cheap young depth.
——————————
MIA GETS: De’Aaron Fox, Khris Middleton, Malik Monk, Bobby Portis, & Pat Connaughton
MIA GIVES: Jimmy Butler, Tyler Herro, Duncan Robinson, Kal’el Ware, Jaime Jaquez, Nikola Jovic, & Picks
WHY FOR MIA? They form the Kentucky best friend trio in Fox, Monk, & Adebayo but also get solid fits at SF (Middleton) and PF (Portis) to round out the staring unit.
——————————
PHX GETS: Jimmy Butler
PHX GIVES: Bradley Beal & Picks
WHY FOR PHX? Suns get their target and balances the roster better.
——————————
SAC GETS: Tyler Herro, Cam Johnson, Kal’el Ware, Jaime Jaquez, & Nikola Jovic
SAC GIVES: De’Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, & Trey Lyles
WHY FOR SAC? We get an offensive star back in Herro, but also don’t have to worry about trotting out a weak defensive backcourt in the starting lineup since we’re also moving Monk (allowing us to start Ellis/Carter & Herro). Johnson gives us more size, length, shooting, and defense at the wing and can be a long term replacement for DeRozan in the starting unit. We also get a few interesting prospects in Ware, Jaquez, & Jovic who help address our size & length weaknesses.
PG - Ellis / Carter / McLaughlin
SG - Herro / Jaquez / Huerter / Jones
SF - DeRozan / Johnson / McDermott
PF - Murray / Jovic / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Ware / Len
——————————
I'd rather keep Monk than get Herro.
Instead of getting involved in a potential Butler deal, why not send Fox to Miami for Herro, Jovic and Ware, and then flip Herro for a FRP and filler to get Cam Johnson from New Jersey?
PG - Monk/ Carter / McLaughlin
SG - Ellis / Carter/ Huerter / Jones
SF - DeRozan / Johnson / McDermott
PF - Murray / Jovic / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Ware / Len
Instead of getting involved in a potential Butler deal, why not send Fox to Miami for Herro, Jovic and Ware, and then flip Herro for a FRP and filler to get Cam Johnson from New Jersey?
PG - Monk/ Carter / McLaughlin
SG - Ellis / Carter/ Huerter / Jones
SF - DeRozan / Johnson / McDermott
PF - Murray / Jovic / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Ware / Len
The 25 ATL pick could turn into Flagg, not likely but better odds than our 25 pick I would think.
Castle is a guy who could be a stud in the future but could be a bust. I think the idea is shotgunning a bit for the hope you land a guy that is close to Fox's talent in 5-7 years. But also get enough back to fill the holes left in our lineup, which won't actually be PG if Fox moves on.
Castle is a guy who could be a stud in the future but could be a bust. I think the idea is shotgunning a bit for the hope you land a guy that is close to Fox's talent in 5-7 years. But also get enough back to fill the holes left in our lineup, which won't actually be PG if Fox moves on.
- Status