[Game] (Preseason)Kings @ Warriors, 10/11/2024 7pm Pacific, 10pm Eastern (NBCSN)

[sono]

you are mixing McLaughlin up with someone (given he is injured and hasn’t played) are you talking about Mcdaniels maybe?

Oh I see, that's it.

 

[Jones2006]

1. You. For your weirdly bad opinion

2. Carter does count as if he were healthy, he would be in our rotation. So we were literally missing 5 of our 6 bench options

3. Sure, why qualify your opinion with some sort of evidence? It's on you to show your opinion had validity, not me.

1 - You're just being rude and disrespectful, which to do that online, shows immaturity laughing at another poster for their opinion

2- No he doesn't. He was drafted to be out the majority of the season and they knew this during free agency. Thus, they formed a roster with that in mind. Just not well.

3 - No, you asked for "evidence" of the 11-15 guys on literally every other roster. That is not "evidence" - that is objective factual info you can look up yourself. Why would I take the time to list the 11-15 men on each roster in the NBA for a post on a forum when that's not opinion related? My opinion is the Kings may have the worst 11-15 guys in the league - which I've already pointed out my reasoning for. It is called an opinion - it's called "reasoning" for an opinion, which I've already stated. It's not called "evidence" for an opinion.

You're just being intentionally dense. It's like if I said Monk is the best 6th man in the league and then a poster like yourself chimes in to ask for "evidence" of that and to write out every other team's 6th man - Like dude, not every opinion has to have an essay behind it. Yet I've already wrote way more than you, ironically enough since you're the 1 getting at me for my supposed brevity. The onus is on you who laughed and questioned the validity of MY OPINION but you have not countered any of what I said ... Again just being rude like an unruly child

 

[Jones2006]

Complaining about roster spots 12-16. Boy, we’ve come a long way

Criticizing does not equal complaining.

Some of you are intentionally just trying to stir conflict with other posts (like myself) which is just weird. God forbid someone objectively evaluates players on the roster. Calling that complaining is laughable.

Yes it's my belief the 11-15 guys matter on the roster. I don't see much controversy in that, especially the 11-13 guys which seem particularly weak on this Kings roster in my opinion. Murray or DeRozan go down for a month or 2, and that would really negatively effect things. That's not normal for a team wanting to contend (for 1 starter to go down & rotations fall apart).

 

[PorchSurfin]

Criticizing does not equal complaining.

Some of you are intentionally just trying to stir conflict with other posts (like myself) which is just weird. God forbid someone objectively evaluates players on the roster. Calling that complaining is laughable.

Yes it's my belief the 11-15 guys matter on the roster. I don't see much controversy in that, especially the 11-13 guys which seem particularly weak on this Kings roster in my opinion. Murray or DeRozan go down for a month or 2, and that would really negatively effect things. That's not normal for a team wanting to contend (for 1 starter to go down & rotations fall apart).

I don't think having the leagues strongest 11-15 bench depth is what wins championships. However, I do understand your argument. So far, our players in that position have been underwhelming.

You might be placing too much emphasis on this argument and now having to double down on it due to push back. In the grand scheme, it is a low priority but definitely should be looked at.

It just seems like there are other, bigger, bones to pick with this team than the 11-15th spots on the roster.

 

[Kingster]

Kings definitely need a defensive 3 and D wing

6'10" or taller, athletic, can hit the open 3, helps Sabonis on the boards and blocking shots. We've needed that for years. And we'll still probably be talking about it next summer.

 

[Kingster]

While I'll not comment on how our 12-16 compare with the rest of the league, since I don't know much, I think it's silly to ignore it. Just because they won't factor in much this year, doesn't mean that those spots are not important. We are an imbalanced roster, and most of our bench depth is also in the guard spot. The back end of the bench should include players who can contribute in a pinch, particularly for specialized roles/positions, or be solid prospects that will likely be solid contributors in a couple of years. In this hard cap era, even with rising salary cap, you want contributing players on cheap contracts. We hit a home run in that regard with Keon, which allows us so much flexibility with Heurter, and allowed us to lose Davion without it feeling like a big hit. We need something similar at the forward spot (at least a single, if not a home run).

If none of the current crop seems to meet either of the two criteria, that's a problem. It may seem to be a relatively minor problem this year, but over a long season, injuries will play a role. Moreover, even for this year, it limits your ability to do two for one trades, since you lose a useful bench piece too with no proper replacement.

This point isn't talked about enough. Not long ago Keon was a 12-16 guy. His development has allowed for Heurter to possibly be "surplus trade capital," which can be used to trade for a position of need. The Kings need all the surplus capital they can get to finally get the long athletic 3 point shooting 3&D guy they have been missing for years.

 

[dude12]

The last thing we need is a guy like Crowder on the roster as a 12-15 guy. This is where you develop young guys. If there are major injuries to Keegan or DDR like what was mentioned earlier, 1) your screwed anyway as they really can’t be replaced 2) you go and sign a vet like Crowder then who can fill in the gap while the injured guys recover.

 

[Telemachus]

Criticizing does not equal complaining.

Some of you are intentionally just trying to stir conflict with other posts (like myself) which is just weird. God forbid someone objectively evaluates players on the roster. Calling that complaining is laughable.

Yes it's my belief the 11-15 guys matter on the roster. I don't see much controversy in that, especially the 11-13 guys which seem particularly weak on this Kings roster in my opinion. Murray or DeRozan go down for a month or 2, and that would really negatively effect things. That's not normal for a team wanting to contend (for 1 starter to go down & rotations fall apart).

I'm sorry, but the players ranked 11 and up on a roster rarely make any impact on win/ loss records throughout the season. Those guys are usually their for development purposes and the future. Most teams go about 8 or 9 players deep with the hope they don't have to go deeper. Right now, the Kings players ranked 8-11 are likely: Monk, Huerter, Lyle's, Robinson, McLaughlin and Len. I couldn't care less if we get much out of the players after them. If one of them steps up and produces, you consider it a bonus