[KINGS] Comments that don't warrant their own thread (Redux)
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The tricky thing here is that Udoka was suspended and ultimately fired by the Celtics. I'm not aware that the NBA took any action. Also, details of the relationship are pretty hard to find, but there's a suggestion that it might have been something less than a model relationship, and that may have played in.
Of course this is a chart of where players "like" shooting from, whatever that means. The Kings run a lot of high middle pick and roll and we've seen in Browns system that Fox and Domas are largely taking the middle spots and shooters are in the corners. If Brown stuck Fox in the corners more that chart would change drastically. That might also affect Fox's play though. That said, looking at Fox's chart he actually shot pretty dang well from the corners, 34% on one side and 48% on the other. Out of 1500+ shots last season he took a whopping 80 or so from the corners. Hence why the corners are nonexistent on that chart. Then moving up to the wing he shot league average on those 3's but still only took about 350 from there. As for the midrange, well, we know the NBA hates those shots for some reason. That might change next season though since so many upper talent, darn near super teams exist. Just launching from 3 might cost teams from here on. In 2022-23 Fox's shot chart was a bit more evenly distributed.
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Yeah, great point. The charts are somewhat misleading because they are only (AFAICT) showing the volume of shots and not representing the percentages. A shot chart like this, which shows both volume and shooting percentage is more useful IMO.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/last-season-heatmap-of-shots-by-dearon-fox
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/last-season-heatmap-of-shots-by-dearon-fox
It's not misleading, it's just telling you different info. The statmuse chart you give shows literal shot frequency and very smoothed percentages. That's useful for knowing where a player is going to shoot from, and about how well.
The other chart in question shows percentage of shots by location relative to league percentage of shots by location, which is useful to tell you how a player's game compares to what an average player does. It's just different info, and some of the stuff you can learn from it is obvious ("DeRozan focuses heavily on mid-range") while other stuff is relatively interesting ("Jokic heavily focuses on straight-on shots", "No top-30 scorer spends a lot of time in the corner three").
The other chart in question shows percentage of shots by location relative to league percentage of shots by location, which is useful to tell you how a player's game compares to what an average player does. It's just different info, and some of the stuff you can learn from it is obvious ("DeRozan focuses heavily on mid-range") while other stuff is relatively interesting ("Jokic heavily focuses on straight-on shots", "No top-30 scorer spends a lot of time in the corner three").