Following Potential *2024* Draftees
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I'm a huge fan of Holmes. Everything about his profile screams super upside bet as a "unicorn" rim protector 4/5 swing guy. I love his developmental curve where every season he's taken a pretty huge leap in production. I'd take him over Ware and Edey pretty easily.
In terms of a floor case, looks like he'll be a guy who can block some shots and just be athletic out there. Seems a pretty safe bet to be a long-term back-up at the very least
In terms of a floor case, looks like he'll be a guy who can block some shots and just be athletic out there. Seems a pretty safe bet to be a long-term back-up at the very least
I mean, I get the concerns with him and lateral movement, but at the same time, how much does that really matter if you're 7'4 with a giant wingspan? Like of course Wemby's mobility at his size is once in a life-time, but he still employs a lot of the same tactics on defense; he gets beat, but it just doesn't matter because he has the best recovery of pretty much anyone in NBA history.
Da Silva with a 8’5.5” standing reach is really rough… That’s the same standing reach as Harrison Barnes which is not only below average for a PF but below average for a SF. Keon Ellis has a 8’6” standing reach for example. However, his max vertical at 35.5" is not too bad and his shuttle run at 2.82 sec is really fast. Will be interested to see how his lane agility shakes out.
I haven't seen any measurements for Chomche yet, but his shuttle run of 2.84 sec is really fast. If that's any indication of how fast/agile he is, that's quite the athletic freak combined with his size, length, and strength at his age.
Dalton Knecht seems to be having a great combine from a measurement standpoint:
The one thing that seems to be popping out to me is that I'm not really seeing many players who are measuring out with PF size. There does seem to be many players measuring out with SG/SF size:
I haven't seen any measurements for Chomche yet, but his shuttle run of 2.84 sec is really fast. If that's any indication of how fast/agile he is, that's quite the athletic freak combined with his size, length, and strength at his age.
Dalton Knecht seems to be having a great combine from a measurement standpoint:
- Height w/o Shoes = 6'5.25"
- Wingspan = 6'9"
- Standing Reach = 8'7.5"
- Shuttle Run = 2.79 (1st at the combine)
- Lane Agility = ??? (Saw it reported that it was 2nd at the combine)
- Max Vertical = 39"
The one thing that seems to be popping out to me is that I'm not really seeing many players who are measuring out with PF size. There does seem to be many players measuring out with SG/SF size:
- Dalton Knecht
- Ron Holland II
- Cody Williams
- Matas Buzelis
- Ja'Kobe Walter
- Kevin McCullar Jr.
- Terrence Shannon Jr.
- Kyshawn George
- Tristan Da Silva
- Ryan Dunn
- Jaylon Tyson
- Tyler Smith
- Bobi Klintman
- Alex Karaban
+1. The Ringer's "shades of" comparisons are often way, way off IMO.
I don't think Edey is any better than Len as an NBA rookie. IMO the Kings need to hit on a higher upside play rather than drafting a role player.
As for Kel'el Ware, I never like guys who lack a motor. Ware has always had tantalizing tools, but he runs way too hot & cold and too often just doesn't compete the way you'd like to see.
I don't think Edey is any better than Len as an NBA rookie. IMO the Kings need to hit on a higher upside play rather than drafting a role player.
As for Kel'el Ware, I never like guys who lack a motor. Ware has always had tantalizing tools, but he runs way too hot & cold and too often just doesn't compete the way you'd like to see.
I have watched Edey play for three years and he moves very, very slowly. If he did well in these drills, it tells me his reaction time is really bad. He was generally a step and a half behind everyone in college, but made up for it with his size ( and different rules). That usually means he will be 2-3 steps behind in the NBA.
the thing about Bronny James is that as much as people love joke about him declaring for the draft and his dad’s whole thing about wanting to play with his son, there were times when he was at Sierra Canyon in high school where he DID look like an NBA level prospect. Not his father of course but like a role player level two way grinder.
He was also proven to be shorter than his "official height" but the vertical jump another shooting drill and the 3 point shots worked for his benefit. Still a 6.1" guard that wasn't a scoring machine in college doesn't seem to have that much future in the NBA. Let's see how he will do in the scrimmage today.
Important distinction is that he’s 6’1.5” without shoes, which is more like 6’3”-ish in in game height. Not great by any means but he’s also got a solid wingspan in the 6’7” range which puts him in the Jrue Holliday mold, which is probably a good model for who he should try to embrace being in the league.
Going to be interesting to see how Djurisic looks in the scrimmage. Thought he made a mistake withdrawing from the draft last season but a strong performance today probably puts him right back into the mid-first round range.
Going to be interesting to see how Djurisic looks in the scrimmage. Thought he made a mistake withdrawing from the draft last season but a strong performance today probably puts him right back into the mid-first round range.
Bronny seems absolutely worth a 2nd round flier. Sure, not close to ready yet now, but a dude with his athleticism and willingness to play defense and potential shooting? On the shorter side, but with an excellent wingspan and a huge vert.
Camp him in the G-League for 2 years and see what he looks like as a 22 year old with 2 years of professional basketball/development under his belt. People just have to remove the name (maybe you can't though?) and there's absolutely NBA skills/athleticism there if he develops right.
Camp him in the G-League for 2 years and see what he looks like as a 22 year old with 2 years of professional basketball/development under his belt. People just have to remove the name (maybe you can't though?) and there's absolutely NBA skills/athleticism there if he develops right.
Initial reports have Dunn with a 7'1.5" wingspan, 8'7" standing reach, 2.88 shuttle run, and a 38.5 max vertical. Compared to Barnes, he has a 2.25" advantage on wingspan, 1.5" advantage on standing reach, but Barnes had a 1.5" advantage on the max vertical (which I doubt he still has today).
The wingspan, vertical, and shuttle run are obviously good for a PF but the standing reach leaves a lot to be desired for a PF especially when your starting C is already below average lengthwise.
The wingspan, vertical, and shuttle run are obviously good for a PF but the standing reach leaves a lot to be desired for a PF especially when your starting C is already below average lengthwise.
Haha, no kidding. The thing is the center spot in relation to skill is kind of coming back around a little. Look at Len, he had a huge impact in his minutes. The NBA has already basically let it be known, prep for a more physical league. As they transition away from the Curry types they are looking at players like Zion, Wemby, Jokic, etc. to carry it on.