[Game] THE Kings vs. Detroit Pistons, 2/7/2024, 7:00p PT/10:00p ET
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Kings is the ONLY team that sure as hell make an average player like Ivey look like elite superstar in this league lol. This is a pathetic display. In the 4th quarter down the stretch, look at Huerter letting Ivey drove by him for an easy layup. EVEN if he KNEW he's going to the basket, STILL Huerter could not stop him, you can just see it unfold. This is an example of why we need to start trading him and Mitchell to get some upgrade.
I didn't say that he was "the problem," I said that I don't think that he's the best player on the Pistons, and I think that every metric besides PPG backs me up on that.
I also don't think that trade value is a particularly useful metric for determining who the best/most valuable player on a team is.
I also don't think that trade value is a particularly useful metric for determining who the best/most valuable player on a team is.
To be honest I'm not really scared of the rough parts of the schedule anymore compared to these trap games like tonight lmao.
Just gotta tread water I guess. Not going to get a chance to gain ground on the teams above us until March it seems.
At least we went 5-2 during the roadtrip. That's an understated success, which if you recall we had a brutal 5 game roadtrip before that, which was underwhelming but overall 7-5 in their last 12 road games. Had it been a more ho-hum 5-7 compounded with this loss and the next 9 and things could've gotten uglier than they probably will end up being.
Just gotta tread water I guess. Not going to get a chance to gain ground on the teams above us until March it seems.
At least we went 5-2 during the roadtrip. That's an understated success, which if you recall we had a brutal 5 game roadtrip before that, which was underwhelming but overall 7-5 in their last 12 road games. Had it been a more ho-hum 5-7 compounded with this loss and the next 9 and things could've gotten uglier than they probably will end up being.
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Last seasons record won't get it done this season, the top teams are pulling away. Its not that 1 game separation like last year. I enjoyed last season as much as anyone trust me, but now the expectations are rightly higher.
It's not so much the record, it's the inconsistencies. One game we can win a championship, the next....we lose to the Pistons.
Someone said you can't tell how good a team is based off there record. I complete disagree. You are what your record is period. If my kid gets Fs but is smart enough to get As. She's still a F student
It's not so much the record, it's the inconsistencies. One game we can win a championship, the next....we lose to the Pistons.
Someone said you can't tell how good a team is based off there record. I complete disagree. You are what your record is period. If my kid gets Fs but is smart enough to get As. She's still a F student
Thankfully only caught the last 5 minutes of this. Was still expecting us to go on a run. The missed call on the foul on Monk followed by the double tech could have been up to a 5 point swing. With Pistons shots falling the way they were it prob wouldn't matter but still an annoying way to lose
We've now dropped into the play-in bracket. There's enough of a cushion that we shouldn't fall past 10. But missing the playoffs in year 2 of MB would for sure be a major failure. We'd at least keep our pick and be able to trade it once the selection is made, altho idk if that's preferable to sending ATL the pick this season to open up future flexibility
We've now dropped into the play-in bracket. There's enough of a cushion that we shouldn't fall past 10. But missing the playoffs in year 2 of MB would for sure be a major failure. We'd at least keep our pick and be able to trade it once the selection is made, altho idk if that's preferable to sending ATL the pick this season to open up future flexibility
I'm not glossing over the loss. Of course we should find a way to beat the Pistons if we want to be called a playoff team. But that's just it -- we have to beat them and we didn't do that on any level. So yeah, I'm just as concerned as any Kings fan right now -- I just also want to credit this young Pistons team who have had an absolutely abysmal year and are still coming to play in mid-February and looking pretty good for a night.
Here's where I sit with this team... Even in our winning streak I felt like we were winning in spite of our defense rather than because of it. I can live with this offense even though I think we were more effective when Fox was primarily a slasher instead of a volume jump shooter. They're inconsistent and it's not my favorite style of basketball but there's enough data points to warrant staying the course with it. However, any time we have an off shooting night we're going to lose if we can't figure out how to defend pick and rolls. Collapsing everyone into the paint and giving up wide open threes is a terrible strategy. So is allowing a screener to come up to the top of the key and willingly make the switch so that suddenly our worst defender is matched up with their top scorer. And I lost count of how many times we ran into the screener or fought to get through the screen and got called for a foul. That's just not smart basketball.
You have to know refs are going to favor the offense. I'm pretty sure that's why Huerter got ejected. The NBA makes the rules based on how they want the game to look and we have to play within those rules. The Kings are flat out refusing to make those adjustments and then complaining instead when the officials call the same fouls in the 4th quarter that they called in the first. I've been really critical of the officiating this season but tonight I think it was on us for refusing to take the hint. The most frustrating part of it is that I think we are a good team and we have players who are capable defenders but during the course of the game they're just not executing anything sharply. Maybe we've just hit the wall and this is as good as we're going to get without adding more wing defenders and a true rim protector. Maybe we're still a couple years away from getting all the pieces right.
Here's where I sit with this team... Even in our winning streak I felt like we were winning in spite of our defense rather than because of it. I can live with this offense even though I think we were more effective when Fox was primarily a slasher instead of a volume jump shooter. They're inconsistent and it's not my favorite style of basketball but there's enough data points to warrant staying the course with it. However, any time we have an off shooting night we're going to lose if we can't figure out how to defend pick and rolls. Collapsing everyone into the paint and giving up wide open threes is a terrible strategy. So is allowing a screener to come up to the top of the key and willingly make the switch so that suddenly our worst defender is matched up with their top scorer. And I lost count of how many times we ran into the screener or fought to get through the screen and got called for a foul. That's just not smart basketball.
You have to know refs are going to favor the offense. I'm pretty sure that's why Huerter got ejected. The NBA makes the rules based on how they want the game to look and we have to play within those rules. The Kings are flat out refusing to make those adjustments and then complaining instead when the officials call the same fouls in the 4th quarter that they called in the first. I've been really critical of the officiating this season but tonight I think it was on us for refusing to take the hint. The most frustrating part of it is that I think we are a good team and we have players who are capable defenders but during the course of the game they're just not executing anything sharply. Maybe we've just hit the wall and this is as good as we're going to get without adding more wing defenders and a true rim protector. Maybe we're still a couple years away from getting all the pieces right.
I'm on the boat of being average for this season since there are no significant moves we can make this season to make a huge difference for the kings. Our draft assets are tied up since we owe the hawks a pick which doesn't allow for much flexability when trading (this tie up will relinquish after this season). Secondly there are no guys out there the kings can trade for who would make a huge difference. Siakam and OG no longer available and other big name guys aren't getting traded. Not many choices out there.
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