Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!
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Clearly, if Brown gets fired in 2029, it's because of the players didn't like playing for him in 2024. That's how this works 
If Brown is so hard, how is it we didn't hear a bad word from Holmes all last season even though it was clear Brown saw no role for him?
How come Keegan never said a lick every single night that James Ham teed him up to s-talk Brown with questions like "How frustrating is it for you to be reduced to a spot shooter in Coach Brown's offense?"
Brown has these guys sign a deal stating specifically that they know their assigned role and that both sides are accountable to fulfilling it. I can get that maybe with Sasha there is a bit of disappointment the game minutes aren't there yet, but the core guys that have been happy and enjoying their best career moments under Brown, it would make no sense that they are all secretly plotting his overthrow. With only a handful of internet posters privy to this mutiny in wait.
This is strictly my opinion though, no inside dirt.
As much as it kills me, it is starting to look like a 2 for 1 type deal does make sense. Assuming we don't have to add any picks to Huerter/HB, I think it does make some sense. Reports have the Bulls want to stay competitive too, so a couple "win-now" type pieces like Huerter and HB do make sense if they want to stay in the race. Have to make sure Monk is on board and is fine coming off the bench long-term.
Fox 34 || Keon 10 || Monk 4
Lavine 23 || Monk 25
Keegs 34 || Lavine 11 || Random 3
Lyles 28 || Sasha 20
Domas 34 || Len 14
Fox: 34
Domas: 34
Lavine: 34
Keegs: 34
Monk: 29
Lyles: 28
Sasha: 20
Len: 14
Keon: 10
Random: 3
Have to hope LaVine buys into team ball, but I think this sort of rotation would make some sense and gives you a chance to be a special offensive squad if LaVine buys into what we do here.
Fox 34 || Keon 10 || Monk 4
Lavine 23 || Monk 25
Keegs 34 || Lavine 11 || Random 3
Lyles 28 || Sasha 20
Domas 34 || Len 14
Fox: 34
Domas: 34
Lavine: 34
Keegs: 34
Monk: 29
Lyles: 28
Sasha: 20
Len: 14
Keon: 10
Random: 3
Have to hope LaVine buys into team ball, but I think this sort of rotation would make some sense and gives you a chance to be a special offensive squad if LaVine buys into what we do here.
It was always the move that made sense if Monte's top options failed and they did, first OG and now Siakam. If Monte can keep his picks that still gives him more room to find defenders with future capital. The Warriors are interested and they can beat a Kings offer if the Bulls want youth but I think even the Warriors would shy away from that contract.
Honestly after this game i dont see his minutes for us though ..
I bet we will see him getting more minutes but will it be with King's uniform ?
For me that was а humiliation at the very least ....
I bet we will see him getting more minutes but will it be with King's uniform ?
For me that was а humiliation at the very least ....
So aggravating
And among the many interesting revelations that were learned during that time, this much is clear: Siakam would not be excited if he were traded to Sacramento.
Considering the Kings were known to be in serious talks with the Raptors about Siakam as recently as Friday, when they ended the talks, this is extremely relevant to the Sacramento calculus at hand. Here are the Kings, winning enough games to earn a fifth-place standing in the Western Conference but routinely losing in the kind of one-sided fashion that raises serious questions about their legitimacy as contenders, and they’re contemplating the notion of trading for a high-level player who is headed toward free agency this summer as a possible solution. To put it in proper pro sports parlance, it would be a rental. According to two league sources, the Kings should have very little — if any — optimism regarding the prospect of Siakam re-signing in the summer if they were to land him. With that in mind, it should surprise no one that the Kings are unwilling to include second-year forward Keegan Murray in a deal (who, by the way, had 32 points while hitting 13 of 17 shots and 5 of 9 3s in a win against Detroit on Tuesday night).
And among the many interesting revelations that were learned during that time, this much is clear: Siakam would not be excited if he were traded to Sacramento.
Considering the Kings were known to be in serious talks with the Raptors about Siakam as recently as Friday, when they ended the talks, this is extremely relevant to the Sacramento calculus at hand. Here are the Kings, winning enough games to earn a fifth-place standing in the Western Conference but routinely losing in the kind of one-sided fashion that raises serious questions about their legitimacy as contenders, and they’re contemplating the notion of trading for a high-level player who is headed toward free agency this summer as a possible solution. To put it in proper pro sports parlance, it would be a rental. According to two league sources, the Kings should have very little — if any — optimism regarding the prospect of Siakam re-signing in the summer if they were to land him. With that in mind, it should surprise no one that the Kings are unwilling to include second-year forward Keegan Murray in a deal (who, by the way, had 32 points while hitting 13 of 17 shots and 5 of 9 3s in a win against Detroit on Tuesday night).
Is there any chance of trading Harrison Barnes for Patrick Williams, straight up?
Fox, Huerter/Monk, P-Will, Murray, Sabonis
... looks a heck of a lot better, on paper, than anything with Barnes in it.
The Kings could be the platform that unlocks Williams and helps him spread his wings, cause of the spacing that Keegan, Huerter and Monk provide. Like the change of scene for Barrett and Quickley have taken them and the Raptors up a level.
And the Bulls might be open to this, since it seems like they need a low usage person, like Barnes, in their lineup while Lavine and DeRozan do their thing. The Bulls might also find this appealing because it gives them another shot with Lavine that could revive his value, rather than trade him for pennies on the dollar.
I wouldn't mind throwing in a future first (with adequate protections?) that converts to 2nds, if it's needed, since P-Will is a recent former #4 pick.
Fox, Huerter/Monk, P-Will, Murray, Sabonis
... looks a heck of a lot better, on paper, than anything with Barnes in it.
The Kings could be the platform that unlocks Williams and helps him spread his wings, cause of the spacing that Keegan, Huerter and Monk provide. Like the change of scene for Barrett and Quickley have taken them and the Raptors up a level.
And the Bulls might be open to this, since it seems like they need a low usage person, like Barnes, in their lineup while Lavine and DeRozan do their thing. The Bulls might also find this appealing because it gives them another shot with Lavine that could revive his value, rather than trade him for pennies on the dollar.
I wouldn't mind throwing in a future first (with adequate protections?) that converts to 2nds, if it's needed, since P-Will is a recent former #4 pick.
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Williams and Barnes are similar usage so that’s not going to be enough of a reason for the Bulls to swap a 22 year old forward for a 31 year old forward. You’re going to need to attach incentive (and that’s even assuming the Bulls are not wanting to keep Williams and rebuild). Then you have the issue that Barnes for Williams doesn’t work money-wise.
I proposed earlier in the thread that we could target Caruso & Williams as a new starting SG and PF combo. With their money combined, you’d need to send one of the following for the dollars to match…
Having said that if you do send out a package of Vezenkov, Duarte, Mitchell, and 2 1sts for Caruso & Williams, the rotation would be pretty darn strong and deep…
PG - Fox (34) / Monk (14)
SG - Caruso (26) / Monk (12) / Huerter (10)
SF - Murray (32) / Huerter (14) / Barnes (2)
PF - Williams (26) / Barnes (22)
C - Sabonis (34) / Lyles (14)
Fox = 34 min
Sabonis = 34 min
Murray = 32 min
Monk = 26 min
Caruso = 26 min
Williams = 26 min
Huerter = 24 min
Barnes = 24 min
Lyles = 14 min
I think we’d easily have the best bench in the league (Monk, Huerter, Barnes, Lyles)
I proposed earlier in the thread that we could target Caruso & Williams as a new starting SG and PF combo. With their money combined, you’d need to send one of the following for the dollars to match…
- Harrison Barnes
- Kevin Huerter
- Vezenkov, Duarte, & Mitchell
Having said that if you do send out a package of Vezenkov, Duarte, Mitchell, and 2 1sts for Caruso & Williams, the rotation would be pretty darn strong and deep…
PG - Fox (34) / Monk (14)
SG - Caruso (26) / Monk (12) / Huerter (10)
SF - Murray (32) / Huerter (14) / Barnes (2)
PF - Williams (26) / Barnes (22)
C - Sabonis (34) / Lyles (14)
Fox = 34 min
Sabonis = 34 min
Murray = 32 min
Monk = 26 min
Caruso = 26 min
Williams = 26 min
Huerter = 24 min
Barnes = 24 min
Lyles = 14 min
I think we’d easily have the best bench in the league (Monk, Huerter, Barnes, Lyles)
If you can get Caruso and Patrick Williams here for the above package i’d say job well done.
I don’t understand Siakam’s not a good long term fit take. Seems he wants a big market or truely comfortable in Toronto, regardless im over that conversation.
LaVine’s injury history scares me more than anything else about him, otherwise i feel there’s quite a bit to like about his joining the Kings.
Huerter, sorry to rag on the guy, seems like a nice kid, but I truly hope Monte finds a new home for him and Davion. Reckon both need a change of scenery and hope that works out for them.
I don’t understand Siakam’s not a good long term fit take. Seems he wants a big market or truely comfortable in Toronto, regardless im over that conversation.
LaVine’s injury history scares me more than anything else about him, otherwise i feel there’s quite a bit to like about his joining the Kings.
Huerter, sorry to rag on the guy, seems like a nice kid, but I truly hope Monte finds a new home for him and Davion. Reckon both need a change of scenery and hope that works out for them.