Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!
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I can't see Monte offering Keegan. I'd say the Warriors have the best package to offer around Kuminga/Moody, but if we can land him with some sort of combination of Heurter/Barnes/Mitchell and a 2nd that would be huge. I think we've got a good shot to resign him too, that all star collusion from last year may come true.
I think Monte has been clear that Keegan is not on the table.
If such a deal were to happen, it would have to take the basic shape that has been floated here for a while - something like Barnes + Huerter and/or Mitchell + pick(s). Obviously some other pieces could end up thrown in for salary matching or maybe as alternate sweetener (like, as fans we can't rule out throwing in Colby instead of a future pick, or something) but that would almost have to be the basic structure.
If such a deal were to happen, it would have to take the basic shape that has been floated here for a while - something like Barnes + Huerter and/or Mitchell + pick(s). Obviously some other pieces could end up thrown in for salary matching or maybe as alternate sweetener (like, as fans we can't rule out throwing in Colby instead of a future pick, or something) but that would almost have to be the basic structure.
I hope they don’t trade for Siakam. Even if I’m over HB, Huerter and Davion I still don’t want to blow our only package for Siakam.
You make that move, then that’s it. You better have a contender with him assuming you can re-sign him. Which isn’t a given.
I don’t think Siakam makes the Kings a contender and it might take a lot of pains to integrate an offensive player of his style to a team of the Kings style.
Not really what you want to hear in regards to a potential rental. That his contractual time here might not be sufficient to see if he can actually be a fit. Not just from the perspective of the Kings, but from the perspective of Siakam.
I’m honestly not feeling any of the all star caliber players available. Yes, the Kings need another scorer of Siakam or LaVine’s caliber but there’s more to it than that.
I would rather the Kings try to upgrade at PF(Rebounding and defense) and SG(offensive consistency and defense) with more role style players for now that can fit offensively or atleast match HB’s and Huerter’s combined 21-25 points while bringing what they lack. Those players are out there and they are much cheaper than Pascal Siakam.
I want to see how good the Kings can be with proper balance before we go blowing our wad on desperation moves like they are a team with a closing window. Like Phoenix did. The Kings do have time.
If they absolutely feel they have to go for a second or third scorer then Kyle Kuzma would probably be the best fit….not that I necessarily want him either.
You make that move, then that’s it. You better have a contender with him assuming you can re-sign him. Which isn’t a given.
I don’t think Siakam makes the Kings a contender and it might take a lot of pains to integrate an offensive player of his style to a team of the Kings style.
Not really what you want to hear in regards to a potential rental. That his contractual time here might not be sufficient to see if he can actually be a fit. Not just from the perspective of the Kings, but from the perspective of Siakam.
I’m honestly not feeling any of the all star caliber players available. Yes, the Kings need another scorer of Siakam or LaVine’s caliber but there’s more to it than that.
I would rather the Kings try to upgrade at PF(Rebounding and defense) and SG(offensive consistency and defense) with more role style players for now that can fit offensively or atleast match HB’s and Huerter’s combined 21-25 points while bringing what they lack. Those players are out there and they are much cheaper than Pascal Siakam.
I want to see how good the Kings can be with proper balance before we go blowing our wad on desperation moves like they are a team with a closing window. Like Phoenix did. The Kings do have time.
If they absolutely feel they have to go for a second or third scorer then Kyle Kuzma would probably be the best fit….not that I necessarily want him either.
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Is Sasha now available to be traded? I’m assuming he’s past the date he can be traded. To me, he’s got to be a desirable trade piece for teams…..also think that Davion has some value……..Huerter would be a change of scenery guy but HB is at the point where a team trading a star player wouldn’t be looking for an HB.
Yeah, players signed in the offseason are eligible to be traded starting Dec. 15th.
I'm sure that our Bulgarian friends are hoping that there's a chance that Sasha's lack of playing time wasn't because we didn't want him, but rather to showcase our other players for trades, so that we could open up some PT for him after we ship some other guys off. (Yeah, that's probably not true)
I'm sure that our Bulgarian friends are hoping that there's a chance that Sasha's lack of playing time wasn't because we didn't want him, but rather to showcase our other players for trades, so that we could open up some PT for him after we ship some other guys off. (Yeah, that's probably not true)
Both would fit in some ways but the real question is where would they push the Kings? The Kings right now are about a 48-50 win clip again. Those two players are the types you fill around the edges once you're done. If the Kings were sitting at a better win clip and higher in the West I think that's where Monte would be looking but he's clearly looking for talent overall.
Danger for sure but the payoff would possibly be years of actual favorite status. Obviously they wouldn't budge on Keegan or wanted too many picks but the downside if no Keegan is you lose Huerter and Barnes, which would actually indeed suck, but probably not enough to send the Kings down the standings very far at this point considering their play and role decreases.
After he got a fraction of what he supposedly wanted for OG it's on him at some point to settle or not. I personally thought the deal for OG was not bad, but not exactly a rebuild friendly one. This is the lesson as to why you need to start making moves before your contracts start falling off the books. The Pistons did the same thing with Grant and got basically nothing. If the Pistons would have just moved him after that first year they would have gotten a nice package for sure.
Year 2 Peja could? I've seen Keegan make some moves that Peja never made in 14 years in the NBA. I just don't get why so many people are tripping over themselves to define what Keegan can't do when he's done nothing but elevate his game month to month since he came into the league. It took Kawhi Leonard 4 seasons to average what Keegan Murray is averaging now in less than half that amount of time. Why is "wait and see" such a difficult concept to understand?
Yes. Greece Peja could. Keegan could certainly improve but right now I think them turning him into more of a 3 and D shooter/system guy is working perfectly. The conversation was specifically about handles and how it relates to scoring so indeed more in relation to being a 1st option if you will. Keegan can certainly be a 20 per game guy in the role he's in as a lead facilitator? Results still to come.
Not sure what to make of Wiggins. When he first got traded to the Warriors, he was a super "buy" low guy that was incredibly overpaid and not impactful. And then he just turned himself into one of the most valuable wings in basketball for like a 3 year stretch during that Warriors run to the finals. But now, in the first year of his new contract, he's been downright awful and just one of the worst players getting big minutes in the league.
So can he find that form under Brown again? Maybe a change of scenery will boost him back up? Because the Wiggins before this season and when he got traded to GS is exactly what we need and want from that slot.
So can he find that form under Brown again? Maybe a change of scenery will boost him back up? Because the Wiggins before this season and when he got traded to GS is exactly what we need and want from that slot.
Siakam would be amazing. He is a real baller, especially in the playoffs. He also has the length that is needed in the PF next to Sabonis.
I would not give them Murray though. Barnes + Huerter + whatever picks are available.
Then get Quentin Grimes from the Knicks to cover the loss of Huerter. He is a good shooter and defender. He's behind DiVincenzo in their pecking order, so the starting spot here could tempt him into pushing for a move.
Sasha for Grimes?
G: Fox.................... Mitchell
G: Grimes.............. Monk
F: Murray................ Duarte
F: Siakam.............. Lyles
C: Sabonis............. McGee / Len
This is a starting 5 that could go head-to-head offensively with anyone in the league... but will have a defensive advantage over the teams who are currently favorites for the title: Nuggets, Celtics, Clippers, Bucks, Suns.
Do it, Monte!
I would not give them Murray though. Barnes + Huerter + whatever picks are available.
Then get Quentin Grimes from the Knicks to cover the loss of Huerter. He is a good shooter and defender. He's behind DiVincenzo in their pecking order, so the starting spot here could tempt him into pushing for a move.
Sasha for Grimes?
G: Fox.................... Mitchell
G: Grimes.............. Monk
F: Murray................ Duarte
F: Siakam.............. Lyles
C: Sabonis............. McGee / Len
This is a starting 5 that could go head-to-head offensively with anyone in the league... but will have a defensive advantage over the teams who are currently favorites for the title: Nuggets, Celtics, Clippers, Bucks, Suns.
Do it, Monte!
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I’m curious what could have happened in a two hour window to turn from potential trade partner to talks are off? The Kings have likely had the same package available for the last month. There is just no way they were trading Keegan for a soon to be 30 year old Siakam even if he was signed for a couple more years.