Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!
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His percentages were down but he was playing surprisingly well at the three which stood out given his size and perceived lack of athleticism.
I’m curious, if he was on the kings, would you trade him for a hypothetical Harrison Barnes, Davion and 2 picks likely to be in the 20s? More specific trade say 31 year old John Collins, Jevon Carter and 2 first rounders.
I’m curious, if he was on the kings, would you trade him for a hypothetical Harrison Barnes, Davion and 2 picks likely to be in the 20s? More specific trade say 31 year old John Collins, Jevon Carter and 2 first rounders.
Again, not a great comparison. UTA is rebuilding. Wins hurt them right now. Also, do you think the Jazz feel like those picks in 27 and 29 will be in the 20s? That is the question, but historically, they will not. Davion for all his warts is a great second-draft-type player for the Jazz.
Barnes is a good vet on a decent contract. Locker room guy, etc. So...the answer is Maybe. I'm sure Ainge will ask for the Moon, because it's what he does. He's gotten it enough that why wouldn't he? I'm not sure a trade will be likely here, but what I am saying is I don't think the Kings are giving up 3 picks for Lauri.
Barnes is a good vet on a decent contract. Locker room guy, etc. So...the answer is Maybe. I'm sure Ainge will ask for the Moon, because it's what he does. He's gotten it enough that why wouldn't he? I'm not sure a trade will be likely here, but what I am saying is I don't think the Kings are giving up 3 picks for Lauri.
When I asked if you would trade that package for Lauri if he was on the kings I meant if the Kings were in the same situation as the Jazz, rebuilding. He is their best asset. His age , size and performance is a rare combo. If we had the roster of the Jazz I personally would not give up my best player for 2 first round picks.
Having said that, this discussion is not likely to play out the way either of us would want. The most likely scenario is he stays put and the second most likely is that he gets traded to a team with way more assets. Okc could easily trade two non starting young pieces and 3 or 4 picks and still have 10 picks laying around. He would be awesome on the kings so here is hoping I’m wrong.
Yeah, no way. OG might be an upgrade at this point but he's not a franchise player, or at least hasn't shown that. Now he and Murray on the defensive end is very interesting. Maybe it's enough defense to take some pressure off Fox? OG also adds athletic ability which obviously the Kings aren't overloaded with as it is.
Solid all-around player, but “elite” shooter? That’s a huge stretch. He’s had as many seasons shooting below league average as above it (I assume you’re referring to deep shooting).
And the volume of shots from that distance hasn’t been very high. He’s essentially hitting 2 per game the past 4 seasons.
I don’t discount him as a good player, but the term “elite” is often thrown around quite loosely and unwarrantedly. I don’t see how the term applies to DFS and his shooting. His best seasons have been between 37 and 39% which, while good, wouldn’t rank in the top 50 in some years and barely in others.
Now, if he continues what he’s been doing THIS season, that would be different as he’s essentially top 15 right now. But to this point in his career he’s been average on the whole and a bit above average for most of the past 4 seasons, but never elite.
And the volume of shots from that distance hasn’t been very high. He’s essentially hitting 2 per game the past 4 seasons.
I don’t discount him as a good player, but the term “elite” is often thrown around quite loosely and unwarrantedly. I don’t see how the term applies to DFS and his shooting. His best seasons have been between 37 and 39% which, while good, wouldn’t rank in the top 50 in some years and barely in others.
Now, if he continues what he’s been doing THIS season, that would be different as he’s essentially top 15 right now. But to this point in his career he’s been average on the whole and a bit above average for most of the past 4 seasons, but never elite.
Something to consider when we are team building and making trades is that one defensive player may or may not nake the impact we are hoping for. I’m not speaking on one particular player but if you look at Toronto they have a rim protecting center, a top 10 defender and 2 more go go gadget armed wings and are 17th defensively.
And right now there's not real overlap with Keegan unlike the Kings G spot back then. The Kings have clear needs but obviously Monte's goal shouldn't be steps back to take any forward if he can help it. The only two you could probably put money on being untouchable are Fox/Domas. Including Keegan is obviously a non-starter with the names rumored right now. Siakam in the summer maybe you do, but the Raptors made their bed now they can suffer the fate of having a "better deal yesterday" lol.
Another thing with these guys whose names are floating out there. If Siakam and OG are so good, why the heck aren’t they winning? Barnes is good, role players are good. Same thing as Lavine and his team. Markkanen has had 1 good year. All of these players are solid but just forget Lavine and Markkanen as defensively we would suck worse. Monk is better than Lavine for our purposes. Aim lower for effective role players.
There could be issues there but it's for a bunch of reasons and don't forget they won a ring. Largely because of that Kawhi deal but still, the Kings can't knock them for not winning. People used the same excuse about Fox back in the day. Talents talent and that talent has to fit and work together at some point. Right now the Raptors have a young stud in Barnes who needs a team built around him just like Fox all the while some of their main stars are beginning to fall off the books. Hopefully losing Van Vleet for nothing gets the Raptors FO off their hands because not only are they either overpaying for mediocre results or watching it walk but they're wasting their best young player. Just like the Kings did with Fox for years.
With LaVine I don't get the Monk vs. LaVine thing. Fox, Monk, and LaVine as your main 3 guard rotation is a lot of talent. Historically LaVine is at a different level than Malik has ever been in terms of efficiency in a go to role. Now, contract year Malik is starting to shine but then it's a question about level of sustainability.
With LaVine I don't get the Monk vs. LaVine thing. Fox, Monk, and LaVine as your main 3 guard rotation is a lot of talent. Historically LaVine is at a different level than Malik has ever been in terms of efficiency in a go to role. Now, contract year Malik is starting to shine but then it's a question about level of sustainability.
The idea that we would trade our recent 4th overall pick for a guy who is about to be a free agent in 6 months is laughable. These rumors always come out with other teams asking us for our best young player in any trade and then the team in question ultimately just settles for 2 garbage picks from the Lakers and an expiring contract or two. Why can't we get that deal?
