[Game] Oklahoma City Thunder @ Sacramento Kings, 12/14/2023, 7:00pm PST/10:00pm EST

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Guys have a question , don't kill me :D
I now i am not objective (at all haha ) but PLEASE explain me why Barnes and Lyles are getting double the minutes of Vezenkov , when none of
them is playing that much better , not to say that they are not better at all im my eyes ...
All 3 were not good from the 3 line today , yes , and all 3 did pretty much same in deffence and rebounding ....
And i am not even talking about missing dunks :rolleyes:
 

Kingster

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Justice is served. Kings win. Refs suck.

I've never been more frustrated by a win as this game. The refs were unbelievably bad. It was fortunate the Kings got out of it without major injury, and I'm assuming Fox's shoulder isn't major. This is the type of game where fights occur because the refs' inconsistency and incompetence causes tempers to flare.

Fox obviously deserves the game ball, but Keon Ellis was very good in this game. He is looking more and more comfortable on offense; his defense is excellent.

Money Murray was excellent down the stretch with his perfection at the free throw line. Too bad the refs took him out of the game in the first quarter. It would have been nice to see him more in this game.
 
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I expect us to win by 20 tonight because this team makes no sense
Well *should* have won by 20, but the refs couldn't possibly let that happen.

Regardless, the Kings continue the maddening trend of following up looking like a bottom 5 team in the NBA with being a top 5 team in the NBA.

- Keon Ellis??? Did we find another vaunted wing that plays defense?
 

pdxKingsFan

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Guys have a question , don't kill me :D
I now i am not objective (at all haha ) but PLEASE explain me why Barnes and Lyles are getting double the minutes of Vezenkov , when none of
them is playing that much better , not to say that they are not better at all im my eyes ...
All 3 were not good from the 3 line today , yes , and all 3 did pretty much same in deffence and rebounding ....
And i am not even talking about missing dunks :rolleyes:
Brown is pretty big on setting roles and he'll only adjust them when he is forced to.

Like last year he was not starting Keegan but Keegan forced the hand very early. We all like Sasha but so far he hasn't forced his way in so they are bringing him up to speed. I really think we will see more out of him later on.
 

Kingster

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Guys have a question , don't kill me :D
I now i am not objective (at all haha ) but PLEASE explain me why Barnes and Lyles are getting double the minutes of Vezenkov , when none of
them is playing that much better , not to say that they are not better at all im my eyes ...
All 3 were not good from the 3 line today , yes , and all 3 did pretty much same in deffence and rebounding ....
And i am not even talking about missing dunks :rolleyes:
As others have mentioned, it may be that Barnes is being shopped for a trade, and it's hard to trade a guy if he's getting minimal minutes.

My question is, why the heck is Barnes playing so poorly? It's not like he's 40 years old. He's 31, which by NBA standards is still in his prime. To my knowledge, Barnes has never had some major injury, such as an achilles. And he's reputed to keep himself in fantastic shape. He should be playing the best ball of his career right now. Yet, the last time I checked he's averaging only 3.5 rebounds for 30 minutes of play, his defense is poor, and his shooting isn't anything to crow about.
 
Guys have a question , don't kill me :D
I now i am not objective (at all haha ) but PLEASE explain me why Barnes and Lyles are getting double the minutes of Vezenkov , when none of
them is playing that much better , not to say that they are not better at all im my eyes ...
All 3 were not good from the 3 line today , yes , and all 3 did pretty much same in deffence and rebounding ....
And i am not even talking about missing dunks :rolleyes:
Vezenkov was not shooting well tonight. And the team played better with Lyles on the floor.
 
Guys have a question , don't kill me :D
I now i am not objective (at all haha ) but PLEASE explain me why Barnes and Lyles are getting double the minutes of Vezenkov , when none of
them is playing that much better , not to say that they are not better at all im my eyes ...
All 3 were not good from the 3 line today , yes , and all 3 did pretty much same in deffence and rebounding ....
And i am not even talking about missing dunks :rolleyes:
I think Lyles and Sasha have been roughly the same. Barnes is getting the start for a couple different reasons. A) blind faith he gets back to his usual level B) to keep his trade value higher, if we bench him that looks bad when trying to trade him.
 
As others have mentioned, it may be that Barnes is being shopped for a trade, and it's hard to trade a guy if he's getting minimal minutes.

My question is, why the heck is Barnes playing so poorly? It's not like he's 40 years old. He's 31, which by NBA standards is still in his prime. To my knowledge, Barnes has never had some major injury, such as an achilles. And he's reputed to keep himself in fantastic shape. He should be playing the best ball of his career right now. Yet, the last time I checked he's averaging only 3.5 rebounds for 30 minutes of play, his defense is poor, and his shooting isn't anything to crow about.
Good point. The age excuse is not a good one. This kind of player who really works on his health and fitness doesn't just suddenly lose it at a relatively young age of 31. He doesn't look any different to me physically. Just not playing as well
 

Kingster

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Good point. The age excuse is not a good one. This kind of player who really works on his health and fitness doesn't just suddenly lose it at a relatively young age of 31. He doesn't look any different to me physically. Just not playing as well
As was pointed out in the pre-game, he's not even making his defensive rotations like he should. That's not what you expect from someone who is supposed to be the paragon of NBA professionalism.
 

Capt. Factorial

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Sounds like it was his version of taking a T for the team rather than giving up money and a FT. Not sure that's the best strategy as we definitely could have wiped 6 points off the board (two and-1s on clear charges) if we had retained it, and I'm not sure it fires up a team the same way a T does. But hey, we were all getting emotional in the game thread so I get it.
 

kingsboi

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well I suppose the Thunder are one team the Kings do want to see in the Playoffs. been reading about 3 or 4 pages deep worth of ref attacks, haven't we learned yet? refs are getting the Kings ready for the physicality in late April and May
 
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