Kings trade Richaun Holmes and 24th overall pick to Mavericks for ????
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just so you know I rarely lose my charity bets. Ask @pdxKingsFan ;-)
by the way not saying OMax becomes an all-star as he won’t. But I do think he has a decent chance to be another Anunoby.
by the way not saying OMax becomes an all-star as he won’t. But I do think he has a decent chance to be another Anunoby.
I know that some or many disagree, but I've always felt the shift from the Magoofs being "hands off" to "meddlesome" really started to show during the 2005-2006 season and after. That's when the Peja for Artest trade occurred then followed up by not retaining Coach Adelman that following Summer. Those of us that remember that time also remember the relationship between GP and Coach Adelman. There's little to no chance GP wanted to let Adelman go.
Also, I could be wrong, but I don't feel like Petrie would have traded Peja away for Artest if not for the Magoofs influence. I've also been staunch in the opinion that Petrie was more likely to draft Steph Curry at #4 in 2009 rather than Tyreke Evans -- who the Magoofs publicly defended at center court with the "it's changing" speech. I was actually quite surprised when Curry wasn't the pick.
Curry's skill set even back then was much more in line with the type of player Petrie coveted (shooting, passing, ball-handling, high BBIQ). Curry appeared to be at least Bibby 2.0. But Evans fit the mold of a larger version of Derrick Rose who'd recently won rookie of the year. I've always felt the Magoofs were overly intrugued with Evans and pressured GP into making that selection. GP is a class guy, so he's never much thrown the owners under the bus and taken responsibility for all basketball operations decisions, but there was a clear shift from Petrie's typical M.O. circa 2006.
And we all know how the Magoofs tenure turned out from 2006 - 2013 from the downturn of recession to eventually trying to move the team before selling it.
Also, I could be wrong, but I don't feel like Petrie would have traded Peja away for Artest if not for the Magoofs influence. I've also been staunch in the opinion that Petrie was more likely to draft Steph Curry at #4 in 2009 rather than Tyreke Evans -- who the Magoofs publicly defended at center court with the "it's changing" speech. I was actually quite surprised when Curry wasn't the pick.
Curry's skill set even back then was much more in line with the type of player Petrie coveted (shooting, passing, ball-handling, high BBIQ). Curry appeared to be at least Bibby 2.0. But Evans fit the mold of a larger version of Derrick Rose who'd recently won rookie of the year. I've always felt the Magoofs were overly intrugued with Evans and pressured GP into making that selection. GP is a class guy, so he's never much thrown the owners under the bus and taken responsibility for all basketball operations decisions, but there was a clear shift from Petrie's typical M.O. circa 2006.
And we all know how the Magoofs tenure turned out from 2006 - 2013 from the downturn of recession to eventually trying to move the team before selling it.
It's definitely hard to say. Clearly Adelman being let go was all them - I think the coaching carousel that followed was all them - they legitimately thought they could still contend with the husk of the golden era team. That said I wasn't including lotto picks so I think the late 20s and early second round picks were mostly all Petrie. I'm sticking him with Douby too.
my bad. Wrong out of state small state fan. Sorry @iowamcnabb
Oh I’m not absolving him of Douby. That actually fit his M.O. anyway, as Quincy was thought of as a sharpshooter and could handle the ball a little bit. He just didn’t develop as hoped. Which seems to happen more than not.
But Peja for Artest didn’t fit the M.O. nor did Tyreke over Steph.
I will say Jimmer fit the M.O., though. He also just didn’t develop as hoped. I mean, even his “elite” shooting never translated as expected. Even though his handles or instincts never became good enough to be a PG, if his shooting would have carried over from college he’d have been useful as a super sub. He just lost confidence and never really got it back.
I still lament GP not carrying over to Vivek and the new ownership, as he essentially told them to strongly consider Giannis. Imagine if that had happened with prime Cousins on the team. Hell, the KINGS conceivably could have drafted Steph, Boogie and Giannis. Imagine that core by 2016, the first season at G1C.
But Peja for Artest didn’t fit the M.O. nor did Tyreke over Steph.
I will say Jimmer fit the M.O., though. He also just didn’t develop as hoped. I mean, even his “elite” shooting never translated as expected. Even though his handles or instincts never became good enough to be a PG, if his shooting would have carried over from college he’d have been useful as a super sub. He just lost confidence and never really got it back.
I still lament GP not carrying over to Vivek and the new ownership, as he essentially told them to strongly consider Giannis. Imagine if that had happened with prime Cousins on the team. Hell, the KINGS conceivably could have drafted Steph, Boogie and Giannis. Imagine that core by 2016, the first season at G1C.
