Kings reportedly involved in Brad Beal trade talks but not deep enough in to matter

pdxKingsFan

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#4
We would have to send out about $37M to get Beal back, and Holmes+ Huerter comes up $10M short. Adding Davion doesn't help.

That means that we would have to send one of Fox, Sabonis, Murray, or Monk. I don't see it.
I am hoping and praying that only one player can be signed as part of a sign and trade?

Although it would be pretty crazy if that isn't the rule and you could give multiple players looking at minimum contracts 10m 1 year deals.
 

Tetsujin

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#6
We would have to send out about $37M to get Beal back, and Holmes+ Huerter comes up $10M short. Adding Davion doesn't help.

That means that we would have to send one of Fox, Sabonis, Murray, or Monk. I don't see it.
I am guessing that particular point is why both sides aren’t close on a deal lol
 
#7
We would have to send out about $37M to get Beal back, and Holmes+ Huerter comes up $10M short. Adding Davion doesn't help.

That means that we would have to send one of Fox, Sabonis, Murray, or Monk. I don't see it.
Yeah I think pretty much any Beal team would have to be a 3-teamer to make the money work. There just aren't many 50 mil tradeable contracts in the NBA anymore with Russ finally expiring.

Huerter+Holmes+24 for Beal would certainly be enticing if that's all we had to give up. And I've been pretty anti-Beal too. But I think WAS is going to hold out for far more than that.
 

Tetsujin

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#8
Yeah I think pretty much any Beal team would have to be a 3-teamer to make the money work. There just aren't many 50 mil tradeable contracts in the NBA anymore with Russ finally expiring.

Huerter+Holmes+24 for Beal would certainly be enticing if that's all we had to give up. And I've been pretty anti-Beal too. But I think WAS is going to hold out for far more than that.
Washington is being run by a Presti disciple and a Jerry West guy. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re willing to take less just to make themselves worse in the short term.
 
#9
We would have to send out about $37M to get Beal back, and Holmes+ Huerter comes up $10M short. Adding Davion doesn't help.

That means that we would have to send one of Fox, Sabonis, Murray, or Monk. I don't see it.
Not saying I would want to do this, but couldn’t they wait until July 1 and renounce Barnes and TD, operate below the cap, and take on the difference using cap space?
 

pdxKingsFan

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#12
Washington is being run by a Presti disciple and a Jerry West guy. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re willing to take less just to make themselves worse in the short term.
but they'd probably want 3 FRPs which is not my favorite idea because I think we're really 2-3 years away from being ready for a homerun swing.
 

pdxKingsFan

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#14
Not saying I would want to do this, but couldn’t they wait until July 1 and renounce Barnes and TD, operate below the cap, and take on the difference using cap space?
assuming we're shipping 24 it would have to be something like that anyways since we can't trade the pick until after we make it.
 

pdxKingsFan

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#15
There are two ways to make this work. Barnes signs quick on a wink wink, we'll get you later Harden style deal, or Barnes, thank you for your service and good luck in your future endeavors.
to be clear - if we needed to send out more salary - I was saying no chance would he re-sign to get traded to a tanking team.
 

pdxKingsFan

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#18
57.1 po in 2026, at that point, are we super maxing Fox yet? Domas has his deal.

What are the CBA ramifications of that?
 
#21
Not sure if I'm too enthused by the idea. Sure, he's a great player, and could be an all-star again. However, he's signed till 27, makes a ton of money (57M in 26-27), and has played 57, 60, 40, 50 games over the last 4 years.

His scoring average, after a career high of 31.3 in 20-21 has dipped to 23.2 over the last 2 years (though his % is still high).

By contrast, Huerter is 5 years younger, makes a third of money, and his %ages are similar to Beal. Given the older age and the missed games, I'm not sure it's much of an upgrade (if at all), for three times the cost.
 

pdxKingsFan

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#22
Some food for thought regardless of how good a player Beal is:
A lot of our guys had chips on their shoulders or at least otherwise felt they had something huge to prove last season. Hopefully this continues with the disrespect we received in the post-season.

Beal has his bag and plays 3/4 of a season. Does he fit the culture?
 
#25
57.1 po in 2026, at that point, are we super maxing Fox yet? Domas has his deal.

What are the CBA ramifications of that?
I'll believe all this penalty crap when it goes down. We hear this kind of stuff every year and it never seems to come to fruition. At least not fully. There will most certainly be a provision for teams to not get eaten alive. Again, worry about that later, there's time.
 
#27
I didn't think about the just renounce his rights possibility, which we might come close just by renouncing everyone else. I'd like to bring Lyles back though so ...
Barnes has a such a huge cap hold I don't think it's possible, is it? If Beal is on the Kings, honestly, this legit opens up the possibililty of just stacking 3 and D guys next to Keegan. Right now, there's just no way to truly add defensive personnel to a team like this. The only way they even play is if you sit players like Huerter, Keegan, or Barnes. The only way to put role guys into major roles is if you build some sort of consolidated talent core of 2-3 guys and this would be the way. Unless Keegan becomes all star level by next season.
 
#28
Let’s say it’s whoever we pick at #24, Huerter and whatever else. Who starts at 4?

Fox
Beal
Keegan
?
Sabonis
Sasha, or MLE. Do the Kings then only have a room MLE though? @Capt. Factorial, that's a question for you, haha. Either way, you can slot in a 3 and D player at that point. Your talent is by far covered. You have a two legit 25 a night backcourt, Keegan, and Domas. Thybulle, Craig, there's options at the spot next to Keegan.
 
#30
Let’s say it’s whoever we pick at #24, Huerter and whatever else. Who starts at 4?

Fox
Beal
Keegan
?
Sabonis
Trey Lyles.

I want to dig a bit further into Lyles numbers this off-season, but I honestly think he's just a starting caliber player at this point with true 4/5 flexibility. If he were on another team, he'd certainly be a guy who cracks my FA wishlist as a breakout candidate with a larger role. And the sample is big enough now with the Kings where I think he actually has figured something out with his game and taken it to another level.